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Lightning Knight posted:Could you get more out of them by grabbing select rare monsters? It matters for projectile attacks, but phantasms and skele mages cast projectile spells so it doesn't matter for them (but does matter for regular skeletons). Spectres don't inherit the mods of rares but they will use the same abilities the monster uses. So in that build the guy suggests using these apes that constantly buff your minions with frenzy charges, which is pretty good but you could also have three of them that focus on doing damage without giving up much which seems better to me.
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Nov 20, 2018 21:25
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MMF Freeway posted:Fwiw bone sculptor is a must if you're gonna use skeletons. Well I guess you could use those minion accuracy gloves instead but how much do those ascendancy points really get you elsewhere? A must just because of the accuracy? I only use them on bosses. The alternative would be Puppet Master which is like a 9% DPS increase for my phantasms. Maybe even drop skeletons entirely because that would open up a big chunk of gem slots, or let me go Kaom's Heart. e: not worrying about accuracy would also open up my passive tree :thinking:
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Nov 20, 2018 21:26
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Yeah idk what the single target of the phantasms is like but bone sculptor is a huge dps boost for skeletons plus all the qol stuff.
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Nov 20, 2018 21:27
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MMF Freeway posted:It matters for projectile attacks, but phantasms and skele mages cast projectile spells so it doesn't matter for them (but does matter for regular skeletons). Oh poo poo they don't? drat, I've been specifically picking rare monsters to spectre.  My theory was to try and get a Soulwrest that's six-linked and stick Vaal Skeletons in there too so they can share links for skeleton mages, but I'm sure that's not efficient. I basically was trying to work zombies into EE's phantasm build and move some stuff around.
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Nov 20, 2018 21:49
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Yeah that's probably not ideal. IIRC the EE build had the skeletons in the helmet and then like two 3L set ups in the chest. Easiest way to work zombies in would be to move the skeletons into the chest slot, put zombies in the helmet and then distribute the various utility skills he had in the chest elsewhere (will probably need to use unset rings/drop some stuff)
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Nov 20, 2018 21:56
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MMF Freeway posted:Yeah idk what the single target of the phantasms is like but bone sculptor is a huge dps boost for skeletons plus all the qol stuff. Zmej fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Nov 20, 2018 |
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Nov 20, 2018 22:00
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MMF Freeway posted:Yeah that's probably not ideal. Yeah after I posted that I realized I was thinking I had four four links and not three four links. Man, poor minion builds, they need so many sockets. 
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Nov 20, 2018 22:00
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BadMedic posted:If you just buy straight points, your purchase will discount a future supporter pack. So if you bought $30 of points, the next supporter pack you buy would be $30 cheaper. So go ahead and get that map tab. i believe this only applies to the packs that were running while you made the point purchases. so if you bought some points 3 weeks ago you cant use them to discount the new packs they just added.
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Nov 20, 2018 22:22
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Tai posted:Urgh I'm so torn between what build to go for as a league starter now that incursion and delve are both in. CP Jugg will need stat sticks to do good damage I think. If the stat stick changes come in 3.5 then I'll be building CP/Blade Flurry instead of pure CP
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Nov 20, 2018 22:24
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Awesome! posted:i believe this only applies to the packs that were running while you made the point purchases. so if you bought some points 3 weeks ago you cant use them to discount the new packs they just added. you can just email support and they'll get back to you about comping you like 10 mins later
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Nov 20, 2018 22:26
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please knock Mom! posted:you can just email support and they'll get back to you about comping you like 10 mins later Also you can set up a payment plan if you want. I'm sure they'd reserve a future pack for you if you wanted
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Nov 20, 2018 22:30
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GGG support is probably the best in the business. They don't do mix-and-match MTX dressup anymore but that's probably because there's simply so many MTX options now. But every league I shuffle my character names around and they get back to me inside of like 10 minutes no matter what day or time. In Abyss I requested a character name change, put some food in the oven, and came back and it was done. On launch day.
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Nov 20, 2018 22:52
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BadMedic posted:If you just buy straight points, your purchase will discount a future supporter pack. So if you bought $30 of points, the next supporter pack you buy would be $30 cheaper. So go ahead and get that map tab. Wait, what? Holy crap. Of course now that I know this, the shop is down. That seems like a pretty big deal though, how did I not hear anything about this? So I get a $20 discount on one of the new packs if I buy the $20 of points I wanted to anyway?
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Nov 20, 2018 22:55
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1064972207720284160 ah, ok, this explains what I've been seeing all day
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Nov 20, 2018 23:09
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Jinnigan posted:CP Jugg will need stat sticks to do good damage I think. If the stat stick changes come in 3.5 then I'll be building CP/Blade Flurry instead of pure CP Can it compete with arc for single target dps if I craft/buy a 2 or 3 phys to an element mod? That 22% elemental penetration to attacks veiled mod could be pretty OP with CP. Tai fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Nov 20, 2018 |
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Nov 20, 2018 23:09
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Should of DDoSed on the day 3.5 releases...
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Nov 20, 2018 23:13
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Tai posted:Should of DDoSed on the day 3.5 releases... But then... What would they play?
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Nov 20, 2018 23:32
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ToastyPotato posted:Wait, what? Holy crap. Of course now that I know this, the shop is down. That seems like a pretty big deal though, how did I not hear anything about this? So I get a $20 discount on one of the new packs if I buy the $20 of points I wanted to anyway? Yep, although someone else in the thread mentioned that if you wait too long you may have to contact support to re-apply your discount. I don't know how you are supposed to find out about the discount, I found out about it by accident. When I started playing back in abyss I didn't want to spend too much on the game so I just got $20 of points. A while later I went to buy some more and noticed all the supporter packs were getting a $20 discount.
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Nov 21, 2018 00:20
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you can also upgrade your supporter packs after you buy them for the difference in price
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Nov 21, 2018 00:26
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Note that most of this only applies to the current cycle of packs - They said they're going to phase out the War for the Atlas ones (the set of 4 topping off at 480 bucks) soon, but I don't think they've announced when. I should contact GGG support and ask them to tally up my account to find out what I've spent over the last 6 years or so.
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Nov 21, 2018 00:43
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Vasudus posted:Note that most of this only applies to the current cycle of packs - They said they're going to phase out the War for the Atlas ones (the set of 4 topping off at 480 bucks) soon, but I don't think they've announced when. no don't
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Nov 21, 2018 00:52
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Vasudus posted:Note that most of this only applies to the current cycle of packs - They said they're going to phase out the War for the Atlas ones (the set of 4 topping off at 480 bucks) soon, but I don't think they've announced when. That'll be when they announce the new major expansion with its own packs, right?
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Nov 21, 2018 01:05
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Captain Foo posted:no don't this is correct JerryLee posted:That'll be when they announce the new major expansion with its own packs, right? Betrayal is both a league and an expansion.
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Nov 21, 2018 01:06
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Vasudus posted:Note that most of this only applies to the current cycle of packs - They said they're going to phase out the War for the Atlas ones (the set of 4 topping off at 480 bucks) soon, but I don't think they've announced when. You can view your purchase history from your account profile if you dare (and if the site ever works again)
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Nov 21, 2018 01:16
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they said they are hoping to replace the war for the atlas packs before the end of the year
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Nov 21, 2018 01:16
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MMF Freeway posted:You can view your purchase history from your account profile if you dare (and if the site ever works again) Last time I looked at that it was mostly listing that I bought x point pack or y supporter pack, not what I actually paid for it in dollars. But maybe it's changed in the last like two years, I don't know.
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Nov 21, 2018 01:22
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everytime i buy a pack i get a private message on the poe site that includes the cost
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Nov 21, 2018 01:26
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I deleted all those messages because I'm OCD about having things in my inboxes 
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Nov 21, 2018 01:31
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Not that jazzed for betrayal so far, but the hideout changes looks fantastic. Seconding how good ggg support is. I forgot to get the incursion packs before they took them out of the shop and they worked it out to get me taken care of.
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Nov 21, 2018 02:00
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Skyl3lazer posted:this is correct Awesome! posted:they said they are hoping to replace the war for the atlas packs before the end of the year Ah, my bad, but so much the better, then.
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Nov 21, 2018 03:10
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I'm not sure catering to "hardcore" players by making trading poo poo is really a good approach to game design. Whelp yes you allowed the people who play a metric fuckton to play a little bit more, but may lose the more "casual" players because of it. Games should be streamlined and get me playing them and not trying to get me to spend tons of time doing stupid little things. Trading, inventory management, coloring sockets, iding gear, map management, key management etc. etc. etc. Some of these may add something to someone, but to me I just want to kill dudes appropriate for my abilities.
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Nov 21, 2018 03:53
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Duck and Cover posted:I'm not sure catering to "hardcore" players by making trading poo poo is really a good approach to game design. Whelp yes you allowed the people who play a metric fuckton to play a little bit more, but may lose the more "casual" players because of it. Games should be streamlined and get me playing them and not trying to get me to spend tons of time doing stupid little things. Trading, inventory management, coloring sockets, iding gear, map management, key management etc. etc. etc. Some of these may add something to someone, but to me I just want to kill dudes appropriate for my abilities. Please stop trolling this thread....
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Nov 21, 2018 03:57
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Control Volume posted:Please stop trolling this thread.... I like video games, maybe someone should make a stash management game for you! I mean I'm not sure it'd qualify as being a game but whatever I suppose it could be gamified. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Nov 21, 2018 |
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Nov 21, 2018 04:00
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Duck and Cover posted:I'm not sure catering to "hardcore" players by making trading poo poo is really a good approach to game design. Whelp yes you allowed the people who play a metric fuckton to play a little bit more, but may lose the more "casual" players because of it. Games should be streamlined and get me playing them and not trying to get me to spend tons of time doing stupid little things. Trading, inventory management, coloring sockets, iding gear, map management, key management etc. etc. etc. Some of these may add something to someone, but to me I just want to kill dudes appropriate for my abilities. In the original D3 I ended up playing a total of like 15 hours after reaching level cap. I bought up the best gear I could on the auction house (gold, not RMAH), and in that 15 hours I didn't loot a single item better than the poo poo I bought for pennies on the auction house. It really killed the game for me and I quit until RoS (which had its own problems). If trading in POE were automated a lot more items would be listed. Basically anything currently priced under about 10c would be worthless, not even worth an Alch. A new player would reach level cap and buy shaper viable gear with the currency they earned leveling, completely removing half the incentive to play the game. When they can buy out the Atlas in 10 minutes there goes the other half of the game. The only way I'd be in favor of an automated trade system is if each listing had an associated fee of at least a couple of chaos.
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Nov 21, 2018 04:06
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... and in conclusion, poe should add the vendor system from Ultima Online. Thank you for coming to my TEDx talk
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Nov 21, 2018 04:10
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Andy Dufresne posted:In the original D3 I ended up playing a total of like 15 hours after reaching level cap. I bought up the best gear I could on the auction house (gold, not RMAH), and in that 15 hours I didn't find a single item better than the poo poo I bought for pennies on the auction house. It really killed the game for me and I quit until RoS (which had its own problems). D3 sucked because the game was bad, although people loved blaming the real money auction house. It probably would have helped if the game had any flexibility with what people wanted. My Witch Doctor totally rocked that two handed dps sword. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Nov 21, 2018 |
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Nov 21, 2018 04:11
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If the store was any harder to use they'd need to buff the drops because I have gear that wouldn't have gotten replaced between levels like 50 to 70 without buying something.
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Nov 21, 2018 04:11
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I don't think he can win the 2012 election anymore, but Ron Paul can sure as poo poo become CEO of GGG.
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Nov 21, 2018 04:13
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Duck and Cover posted:D3 sucked because the game was bad, people love blaming the real money auction house. Can you read?
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Nov 21, 2018 04:13
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Andy Dufresne posted:Can you read? This is Duck and Cover, it should be well established that he cannot or does not care to read.
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Nov 21, 2018 04:16
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