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Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Who What Now posted:

That sounds right. I remember it being a competent but ultimately forgettable FPS about time travel where you spent the first third of a mission using period appropriate weapons to fight period appropriate enemies, the next third using modern/future weapons to shoot period appropriate enemies, and then the last third fighting enemies from the future.

Yeah, I don't regret buying it for five bucks at Ollie's Discount Warehouse, but I'd have likely been upset if it had cost any more. Plus the ending's a cliffhanger, which struck me as absurdly optimistic for a game that clearly was never going to get a sequel.

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Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-09gNDsPzQ

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
gamers rise up

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.

etalian posted:

Witcher Thronebreaker is really good since you can execute smug elves.
I was playing Witcher 3 last night and there’s a racist as hell elf who’s disgusted that the once pure elder blood resides in Ciri. Ciri and Geralt get mad and trash her laboratory to cheer themselves up.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Cybernetic Vermin posted:

Just finished and deeply enjoyed Night in the Woods, and especially appreciated characters getting some political positions (e.g. young socialists membership) despite the game really having no politics driving it.

it's good, yeah, it's like a metroidvania except the enemies are narrative elements representing alienation, identity crisis, and a lack of desirable opportunity-

also I moved back in with my parents at 20 after flunking college for depression reasons so it's weirdly nice to see that represented

both the feelings around that kind of perceived failure and everything about the call center are, in my experience, spot the gently caress on

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

snoremac posted:

I was playing Witcher 3 last night and there’s a racist as hell elf who’s disgusted that the once pure elder blood resides in Ciri. Ciri and Geralt get mad and trash her laboratory to cheer themselves up.

Thronebreaker wow RPG game with Gwent battles.

Also Ciri owns

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

Venom Snake posted:

Except EYE Divine Cybermancy, which is good

drat that's another one that's been sitting untouched in my library for a long time.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

C-Euro posted:

drat that's another one that's been sitting untouched in my library for a long time.

It's such a strange game

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Bert Roberge posted:

I loved number munchers and all of those The Learning Company games like Midnight Rescue!



1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

MizPiz posted:

I was actually thinking of Josephine and I could've sworn she hosed Wellington. I even remember hearing that she said he was better than Napoleon. Can't find anything on it now, though.

no, I can say pretty confidently that Josephine never hosed Wellington

she hosed a guy named Hippolyte Charles who made his bones in the French Republican cavalry, then got out of active service to make a fortune using his connections to sell supplies to the military. napoleon found out just as he was preparing to leave for egypt

and nappy b was by all accounts completely secure in his sexual performance, because he also (according to all surviving expert testimony) was a completely perfunctory lover who never gave the least care to his partners' pleasure. if one of his lovers had slept with wellington and started bandying about that wellington was better hung or whatever, he'd have laughed it off with some comment about wellington being pussywhipped. dude was a raging misogynist even by the standards of the times whose idea of sex was banging one out in the course of a few minutes, except maybe with marie louise

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
This thread is three days old and exceeds the cspam book thread by 90 posts.

Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

snoremac posted:

This thread is three days old and exceeds the cspam book thread by 90 posts.

readers rise up

01011001
Dec 26, 2012

C-Euro posted:

drat that's another one that's been sitting untouched in my library for a long time.

it owns

snoremac posted:

This thread is three days old and exceeds the cspam book thread by 90 posts.

it owns

SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011

Captain_Maclaine posted:


That isn't just something they pulled out of nowhere. If you follow the right conversation tree with Absinthe in Aljernon's shop, she eventually reveals, among other things, that there are lovecraftian horrors lurking outside out reality and always trying to get in and feast in life, as well as hinting that the Great Dragons are one of if not the only thing keeping them out.

it's also the main plot of shadowrun returns, which admittedly not a lot of people played, but it's also a significant background detail to the entire setting (in the main SR setting, Chicago is quarantined because of a bug spirit infestation, which leads to the various megacorps developing weapons to fight the bugs that end up causing a lot of excessive collateral damage, and of course also using these alien creatures as spirit-/bio-weapons)

but the shadowrun returns series of games were also made in that weird period from like 2012 to 2014 where it seemed like things were going to continue along the way they were going with not much changing and nothing to really upset the order of the world, this also goes for the entire shadowrun franchise as a whole including the works produced in the 80s/90s where it was obvious the writers understood the increasing power of capitalism was and did awful poo poo but the competing ideology was in decline so it seemed like there wasn't much to do to stop capitalism's supremacy

which is why shadowrun (and all other forms of cyberpunk) are largely about carving out your own niche in a world that is impossible to understand because of its scope and complexity, a place where your gang of freaks and weirdos can watch each other's back and protect each other through a collective defense and community organization that exists outside the normal rules and structure of society because the rest of the world wants to strip you all to the fillings

it can criticize capitalism in the sense that it recognizes the failings of capitalism and the harm done by capitalism, but it can't offer alternatives to those failings because the starting assumption of the setting is that capitalism has won a final victory that can't be undone

at least that's my take as a certified frankfurt school dropout

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

snoremac posted:

This thread is three days old and exceeds the cspam book thread by 90 posts.

Read better books IMO

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

01011001
Dec 26, 2012

SpaceGoku posted:

it can criticize capitalism in the sense that it recognizes the failings of capitalism and the harm done by capitalism, but it can't offer alternatives to those failings because the starting assumption of the setting is that capitalism has won a final victory that can't be undone

at least that's my take as a certified frankfurt school dropout

for my money that's about right. there's also the aspect that most ways of fighting megacorps in-setting involve buying branded guns or 'ware and taking jobs from other megacorps for more money to keep doing it and in doing so feeding into that cycle further, etc

this can be instructive in the sense that there isn't such a thing as ethical consumption, i guess

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006
please give Dick Pole a home

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

snoremac posted:

This thread is three days old and exceeds the cspam book thread by 90 posts.

Sweaty, plump xXxKEK420xXx came from the stairhead, bearing a controler on which a spread of orange dust and grease lay smeared together. A yellow anime housecoat, untied, was sustained gently behind him on the mild morning air. He held the controller aloft and intoned:

—Actually, it's about ethics in games journalism

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
bethesda delenda est

it loving rules if bethesda AND blizzard ate poo poo at the same time

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Honestly the industry needs a crash that brings down all the major companies

01011001
Dec 26, 2012

Phi230 posted:

bethesda delenda est

it loving rules if bethesda AND blizzard ate poo poo at the same time

what did blizzard do

Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003


I made this for that really old assassin photoshop thread.




Also these





MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Wheeee posted:

Honestly the industry needs a crash that brings down all the major companies

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

01011001 posted:

what did blizzard do

oh it doesn't matter what they did, just the fact that they made gamers angry and them going under would make gamers even more angry is hilarious

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
they should make an Oregon trail where you start in Missouri and travel east and have to hunt industrial barons and plutocrats for food.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Blizzard announced a mobile Diablo game and broke all the fans hearts, because it'll be a slicked up trash fest with a freemium currency system because those types of games are money printing machines these days.

I kind of agree that video games could use some sort of industry shake up, but it wouldn't dislodge the cancer that's slowly taking over, which are barely-disguised skinner box games wallpapered in popular IP and cranked out/maintained by tiny teams working 100 hour weeks using cut & paste game engines and art assets.

We're kinda rocketing into a desolate binary wasteland of shovelware/clickers/freemium garbage and impossibly overwrought AAA titles with nothing in between.

01011001
Dec 26, 2012

ShriekingMarxist posted:

Blizzard announced a mobile Diablo game and broke all the fans hearts, because it'll be a slicked up trash fest with a freemium currency system because those types of games are money printing machines these days.

I kind of agree that video games could use some sort of industry shake up, but it wouldn't dislodge the cancer that's slowly taking over, which are barely-disguised skinner box games wallpapered in popular IP and cranked out/maintained by tiny teams working 100 hour weeks using cut & paste game engines and art assets.

We're kinda rocketing into a desolate binary wasteland of shovelware/clickers/freemium garbage and impossibly overwrought AAA titles with nothing in between.

anything that gets people to stop slobbing blizzard’s knob is fine by me tbh. in general it sucks though

things like dead cells succeeding give me some hope but so it goes, middle-budget poo poo gets squeezed out in film too

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

しらんけど

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Yeah, I don't regret buying it for five bucks at Ollie's Discount Warehouse, but I'd have likely been upset if it had cost any more. Plus the ending's a cliffhanger, which struck me as absurdly optimistic for a game that clearly was never going to get a sequel.
The ending, which is a 30 minute cutscene explaining that in the future an Iranian bioweapon program created a genetically-tailored virus that killed 99% of all white people on Earth, and all of your unexplained time travel jaunts between Gettysburg and Dachau were tied up in some factionalist war over whether it was/was not a good idea to kill the great-great-grandparents of the American scientist who pioneered the gene splicing technology.

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose

snoremac posted:

This thread is three days old and exceeds the cspam book thread by 90 posts.

i will never read a book, but i will always play a game

ShriekingMarxist posted:

Blizzard announced a mobile Diablo game and broke all the fans hearts, because it'll be a slicked up trash fest with a freemium currency system because those types of games are money printing machines these days.

I kind of agree that video games could use some sort of industry shake up, but it wouldn't dislodge the cancer that's slowly taking over, which are barely-disguised skinner box games wallpapered in popular IP and cranked out/maintained by tiny teams working 100 hour weeks using cut & paste game engines and art assets.

We're kinda rocketing into a desolate binary wasteland of shovelware/clickers/freemium garbage and impossibly overwrought AAA titles with nothing in between.

indie games were supposed to be the saving grace of this pattern but whoops, turns out that small studios can be just as lazy and lovely as big ones and a lot of them would rather remake minecraft for the 10000th time than do anything interesting

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Yennefer is the better waifu choice than Triss

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

etalian posted:

Yennefer is the better waifu choice than Triss

Both is the canon choice

Terminal autist
May 17, 2018

by vyelkin

MizPiz posted:

Both is the canon choice

Acutally pissing everyone off and dying alone is and thats a lot more relatable for most gamers anyway

SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011

there's still a lot of good poo poo happening in the indie scene but it's getting filled with a lot of bad poo poo, too

I think this goes back to steam/valve failing in their curator role for their own store because it's easier to just let anyone put anything up there and take a percentage cut than it is to hire people to make sure the games are good

so there's a shitload of predatory shovelware crowding out the legit small developers and now a lot of your success depends on finding a popular streamer or youtuber or website to advocate for you, or hoofing it around to every con in the country that will sell you a postage stamp of floor space so you can talk to people for 16 hours a day about how they should buy your game you're gonna release in 18 months if you ever get time to work on it between traveling to cons to promote it

there's got to be a better way!

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose
oh, don't get me wrong, there are some fantastic indie games and devs out there. but for every 1 game that's actually interesting, it seems like there's 5000 other minecraft clones or anime titty games or _______ but with zombies/pirates/pixels games. steam greenlight was a mistake

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

ur in my world now posted:

steam greenlight was a mistake

Gaben's gotta get the world's largest knife collection somehow

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
i think Steam is "Bad For Games, Actually", but I dunno how to articulate that without sounding ridiculous

distribution and an easy suite of tools for the indie guys and one-man-studio outfits is great, but there are so many negative aspects, namely greenlight, early access, and the russian shovelware steam trading card grift (for the uninitiated: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/05/valve-takes-aim-at-fake-games-that-exploit-steam-trading-cards/) which are still running rampant and why there are 500 releases a day of hot garbage.

the barrier to making and distributing games was erased, and like if the barrier to building structures anywhere you wanted in the real world was erased, the landscape is a loving mess of shanties and lean-tos and whatnot crowding out the actually interesting developments

luckily there's really no shortage of interesting stuff, you just have to get better at finding it, like all things media related these daays, curation and signal boosting are becoming more important abilities than anything else.

as trump might say that's okay i'll keep playing that garbage.

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose

Chillgamesh posted:

Gaben's gotta get the world's largest knife collection somehow

it's hilarious how much money valve has to be pulling in from dota hat $$$ and skimming off of steam sales and yet the only thing they've made in the last 6 years is a card game. gaben has to be building a castle out of cocaine bricks or something

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



is the videogame crash of the 80s even a remotely applicable allegory for the glut of low-quality mobile titles and lootbox-driven critical failures? I assume it isn't because the collapse was at least partially premised on games having an overhead associated with physically producing, storing, and selling the cartridges

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Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

Frog Act posted:

is the videogame crash of the 80s even a remotely applicable allegory for the glut of low-quality mobile titles and lootbox-driven critical failures? I assume it isn't because the collapse was at least partially premised on games having an overhead associated with physically producing, storing, and selling the cartridges

The cost of swapping art assets on what is essentially the same digital gatchapon game has to be pretty negligible.

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