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It's literally this: "It's possible we live in the Matrix, therefore the Matrix wants us to be working on creating the Matrix in our virtual reality, and will punish us if we do not work on creating the Matrix" If you see obvious holes in the logic, you are smarter than the richest people on earth, and should start hoarding guns to aid a violent revolution against the idiocracy.
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FAUXTON posted:I keep seeing the term "Roko's Basilisk" and I just assume it's some dumb poo poo made up by bitcoiners to justify their hosed up beliefs about social and economic interactions, but I've never tried googling it lest I end up bumping into some shithole site that installs a miner on my computer. its a stupid ai thing
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FAUXTON posted:I keep seeing the term "Roko's Basilisk" and I just assume it's some dumb poo poo made up by bitcoiners to justify their hosed up beliefs about social and economic interactions, but I've never tried googling it lest I end up bumping into some shithole site that installs a miner on my computer. imagine an even stupider variant of pascal's wager but instead of god it's an ai that tortures you for all eternity for not believing in it imagine being the sort of dipshit dork enlightenment reddit atheist that takes this kind of credulous bullshit seriously imagine, if you will, elon musk
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The AI that wants to punish us for our sins exists, but it's exclusively in charge of Bitcoin.
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FAUXTON posted:I keep seeing the term "Roko's Basilisk" and I just assume it's some dumb poo poo made up by bitcoiners to justify their hosed up beliefs about social and economic interactions, but I've never tried googling it lest I end up bumping into some shithole site that installs a miner on my computer. Muscle Wizard posted:its a stupid ai thing if you want to read way too much about this bullshit that turns into an intellectual justification for the "rational" part of the American fascism movement, read the book "neoreaction a basilisk" review of it that might be adequate lol: https://social-epistemology.com/2016/09/23/the-violence-of-pure-reason-neoreaction-a-basilisk-adam-riggio/
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Thanks everyone it sounds like my assumption was pretty close to correct, what with it being dreamt up by technocultist neofascists aka bitcoiners (or bitcoiners who haven't realized they're bitcoiners yet)
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steinrokkan posted:The AI that wants to punish us for our sins exists, but it's exclusively in charge of Bitcoin. That's also WHY it wants to punish us
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Rockos Basilisk is so dumb it's astounding. Like a simple version would have been "If baby Skynet is out there somewhere then you might get rewarded for helping it come to power or be punished with the rest of humanity if you miss the chance" But no. Instead we got an AI who in the future will make perfect digital simulations of you which it will then torture for all eternity to punish you. And this will affect you somehow because the simulations are so perfect that they channel into your afterlife soul or some crap. The religious and spiritual undertones should make any self respecting well ackchyually nerd atheist recoil in horror. And you know that's the main demographic for this kind of bullshit.
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again, it's literally pascal's wager, but we replaced "god" with "an ai that will make a simulation of you so perfect it's functionally you, and it will torture this simulation forever because you didn't believe"
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It was so disturbing that it got the guy banned off lesswrong
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iospace posted:It was so disturbing that it got the guy banned off lesswrong lol
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infernal machines posted:again, it's literally pascal's wager, but we replaced "god" with "an ai that will make a simulation of you so perfect it's functionally you, and it will torture this simulation forever because you didn't believe" also you have to donate all your time and money to help develop the “good” ai god before a “bad” ai god is created. the “good” ai god, being a perfect moral superintelligence, will then know who did and didn’t help create it and punish everyone who knew they could help but chose not to
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steinrokkan posted:It's literally this: "It's possible we live in the Matrix, therefore the Matrix wants us to be working on creating the Matrix in our virtual reality, and will punish us if we do not work on creating the Matrix" If you see obvious holes in the logic, you are smarter than the richest people on earth, and should start hoarding guns to aid a violent revolution against the idiocracy. lol that is about the dumbest bullshit i've ever heard
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Yup. It got posted there originally and everyone had a massive meltdown over it. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk E: holy poo poo: quote:Musician Grimes'Wikipedia's W.svg video "Flesh Without Blood" includes a character called "Roccoco Basilisk", based explicitly on Roko's basilisk, who is "doomed to be eternally tortured by an artificial intelligence, but she's also kind of like Marie Antoinette."[90] iospace has issued a correction as of 01:24 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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iospace posted:Yup. It got posted there originally and everyone had a massive meltdown over it. yeah I'm aware, I read a whole drat book about how that poo poo ties into american nazis but lol forever at the idea of internet nerds rationalizing themselves into a religion of heaven and hell
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Cocoa Crispies posted:yeah I'm aware, I read a whole drat book about how that poo poo ties into american nazis Summarize for the class please
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iospace posted:Summarize for the class please Cocoa Crispies posted:if you want to read way too much about this bullshit that turns into an intellectual justification for the "rational" part of the American fascism movement, read the book "neoreaction a basilisk"
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infernal machines posted:again, it's literally pascal's wager, but we replaced "god" with "an ai that will make a simulation of you so perfect it's functionally you, and it will torture this simulation forever because you didn't believe" It's even stupider, honestly.
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rokos basilisk is funny and has a cool name but its also extremely dumb
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Cocoa Crispies posted:yeah I'm aware, I read a whole drat book about how that poo poo ties into american nazis so basically the neo nazis replaced christian occult symbolism with silicon valley occult symbolism
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are they still on about it!? it feels like years ago when I first heard of it and read the original post and it was stupid as gently caress and funny as hell that some mod of the forum or blog or whatever it was posted on went literally crazy and banned all discussion of it because "...it...it will take this as a sign of unbelief!"
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Martout posted:are they still on about it!? I’m pretty sure that was Yud himself that declared that there could be no discussion of it. Since talking about would mean it was true or some such poo poo?
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Martout posted:are they still on about it!? i think he banned discussion of it because people were literally having panic attacks about it. the people who're really into this kinda crap are kinda fragile in the mind.
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Spoiler: Roko's Basilisk then turned out to be Barbra Streisand.
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Mods please this thread has turned extremely memehazardous!
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Tesla driver was pulled over by cops after allegedly sleeping drunk on Autopilot for 7 miles
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredcows/2018/11/two-more-women-accuse-neil-degrasse-tyson-of-sexual-misconduct/ science ftw
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Does anyone know where that "I went to a libertarian house party and it was very much the bad kind of weird" article was? Like the author described someone who was sitting in a hallway saying "I am a god, a perfect logical machine" and someone running around demanding someone prove to him his syringe full of mystery juice wouldn't work.
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That was Porcfest, and I want to say the article was in Vice, but I'm not 100% on that
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Muscle Wizard posted:i think he banned discussion of it because people were literally having panic attacks about it. the people who're really into this kinda crap are kinda fragile in the mind. it wasn't just that they were having panic attacks over it, they were having panic attacks at the idea of someone accidentally finding out about it and dooming themselves. because a key feature of the idea is that your techno-soul only gets tortured forever if you know about the AI. that's the basilisk part - if it looks at you (looking at it) you are turned to stone or whatever.
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FAUXTON posted:Does anyone know where that "I went to a libertarian house party and it was very much the bad kind of weird" article was? Embrace the madness quote:It certainly is the place for Pete Eyre, a jacked guy with an enormous beard, standing off to the side of the fire. At one point he wanted to be a cop, interning at the St. Paul, Minn., police department, enforcing many of the rules people have come here to disregard. He found the system too reactionary, he says, and now helps run an organization that films police misconduct. He shows off one of his many tattoos in the flickering light of the fire. It’s an anarchist symbol tattoo covering an old American flag tat he got in his past life. “It’s my journey,” he says.
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That may be tied with capitalism for absolute stupidest possible thing in any universe ever. Basilisk AI; houseparty is like a distant third.
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FAUXTON posted:Thanks everyone it sounds like my assumption was pretty close to correct, what with it being dreamt up by technocultist neofascists aka bitcoiners (or bitcoiners who haven't realized they're bitcoiners yet) Don’t google it. Yudkowsky and his posse of pseudointelectual idiot children are an almost literal brain cancer. Think ancaps, but techbro.
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On a brighter note... Spent the last 4 days in Georgia (as a native denizen of a slav shithole) and seen a grand total of: 0 Teslas 0 Superchargers Seen 2 non-Tesla EVs (both Bolts, yay CCS), dozens of hybrids and about 95894589423 F-150s. And one F-250.
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They are putting superchargers in some locations around North Dakota which I find hilarious. I think I've seen like 3 Teslas there
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quote:Puns are everywhere. One popular T-shirt: “Kill the Precedent.” One popular ice cream flavor: Open-Carry Cherry. (Or, playing on the big in-joke here, that without government nothing can get done: “Who Will Build the Rocky Roads?”). A tractor rumbles by, spilling brown sludge out of a bucket. Charming.
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I live in Seattle and every time I’m in a car for more than 10 minutes I’m bound to see at least one Tesla. My neighbor across an alley has one charging outside my bedroom window at all times with the vanity plate “MEGAWAT”.
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So, someone wrote I Have No Mouth Yet I Must Scream fanfic But with Twitter integration And then turned it into a religion? Internet really does make you stupid
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Rorobb posted:I live in Seattle and every time I’m in a car for more than 10 minutes I’m bound to see at least one Tesla. My neighbor across an alley has one charging outside my bedroom window at all times with the vanity plate “MEGAWAT”. You know you need to add a 'T' to that for him.
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