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Dual stat-stick BV/EK/GC builds are alive and well, since it doesn't sound like they nerfed the mods at all. e: quote:The Hierophant node Ritual of Awakening no longer grants +1 to maximum number of Summoned Totems. Instead it now causes skills that would Summon a Totem to summon two Totems instead, and grants 3% more Damage per Totem. Even more justification for my pathfinder totem build. gonadic io fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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Dec 4, 2018 01:11
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Hierophant loses the 4th totem because there's other ways to get more totems now than a few items. Those monsters.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:11
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well no one would buy my poo poo, so I couldnt buy the achievements. Still, thank you for throwing currency at me.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:14
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Xeras posted:Balance Manifesto is up: Same, there's simply no upside to self-casting until they actually look at it.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:19
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gonadic io posted:Dual stat-stick BV/EK/GC builds are alive and well, since it doesn't sound like they nerfed the mods at all. BV needs to use dual daggers now though, right?
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Dec 4, 2018 01:19
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Vasudus posted:Hierophant loses the 4th totem because there's other ways to get more totems now than a few items. Hmm still probably going to start off with an arc totem build but very sad
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Dec 4, 2018 01:21
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gently caress you GGG fix goddamn melee
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Dec 4, 2018 01:26
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Without stat sticks, what's the best way to do melee now? Real dual-wielding, shield, or two-handers?
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Dec 4, 2018 01:28
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frajaq posted:gently caress you GGG fix goddamn melee It really does feel that the stat stick change is only loving over melee and not casters since spells don't give a poo poo what you have equipped. What an odd decision. Edit: I really hope this rarity change makes golem jewels less loving retarded to find. Basically locking you out of high level golem builds till you have 100 chaos is bad and dumb.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:28
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I was so excited to play Double Strike as a starter. Rip... Is there even any point in dual wielding?
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Dec 4, 2018 01:30
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KomeradeCanadian posted:Is there even any point in dual wielding?
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Dec 4, 2018 01:32
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Attorney at Funk posted:Without stat sticks, what's the best way to do melee now? Real dual-wielding, shield, or two-handers? Shield is probably strongest now. 2 handed slayer with Cyclone or Lacerate doesn't seem bad either, especially if you're talking about a league starter and especially if you can run lab.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:33
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Ugato posted:BV needs to use dual daggers now though, right? Blade Vortex might need to use dual daggers just for whirling blades, you can stick (heh) with Flame Dash if you want to use sceptres I guess.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:37
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So did they forget that phys spell stat stick builds exist when they tried to nerf stat sticks?
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Dec 4, 2018 01:38
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why does everyone assume they forgot GC and BV? It's WAY easier to balance those spells than try to rework stat sticks another way.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:46
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Nuclearmonkee posted:So did they forget that phys spell stat stick builds exist when they tried to nerf stat sticks? I guess their problem wasn't with the shaper mods themselves but specifically the way stat sticks were distorting melee options.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:48
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Ein Sexmonster posted:why does everyone assume they forgot GC and BV? It's WAY easier to balance those spells than try to rework stat sticks another way. Shockwave totem meta confirmed  e: I'm legit tempted, because it lets me use the cool crafted chest mods instead of a Soul Mantle. gonadic io fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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Dec 4, 2018 01:50
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I could see something like 2x single affix "gain" weapons with the appropriate basetype and high pdps being the new norm for high level play, depending on how the formerly mainhand skills are getting implemented now (hopefully something like dualstrike instead of alternating). Gonna be sad for no leap slam for my clawboys going forward, though.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:56
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Attorney at Funk posted:I guess their problem wasn't with the shaper mods themselves but specifically the way stat sticks were distorting melee options. As long as there are regular dual wield, 2-hand, and maybe shield boosts for melee this will be okay. If stat sticks eat poo poo while all the rest of the melee gear options remain unchanged, well  I'm glad I bit the bullet and did the arc hiero thing in Delve. Depending on what other melee changes are coming I might be leaning more towards starting with a Toxic Rain / Herald of Agony pathfinder instead of Ngamahu Cyclone.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:59
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gonadic io posted:Shockwave totem meta confirmed I've been toying with a reverse knockback shockwave totem for a while in PoB for a while but I've never got the numbers high enough. Maybe it'll work with the new multiple totems support as a chieftain.
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Dec 4, 2018 02:01
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The stat stick thing feels very much like a situation where they hit the lowest hanging fruit because a more dramatic Nerf would have had ripple effects on more builds than they could possibly handle in one patch. I would expect incremental steps to buff melee in general or shields/2 handers to make things more competitive over time.
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Dec 4, 2018 02:11
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delete minions, spells, totems and mines from the game
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Dec 4, 2018 02:26
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frajaq posted:delete minions, spells, totems and mines from the game Why do you hate fun? 
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Dec 4, 2018 02:27
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All hail lycosidae crit meta. Welcome back friend
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Dec 4, 2018 02:43
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Well hey now I feel less bad about trying 2h impale champ
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Dec 4, 2018 02:54
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It'll be interesting to see how the unique reworks play out in conjunction with the crafting changes.
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Dec 4, 2018 02:56
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:All hail lycosidae crit meta. Welcome back friend Remove the second miss check to confirm crit so accuracy isn't double penalized for crit There, I fixed Lycosidae
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Dec 4, 2018 02:56
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i didnt know it was broken
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Dec 4, 2018 02:58
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Awesome! posted:i didnt know it was broken I didn’t either but in all fairness I tend to not play melee because I suck at dodging things at close range.
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Dec 4, 2018 03:05
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in the brief moment where i consider making my own build: does anyone use scion trickster/slayer for the leech combo there?
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Dec 4, 2018 03:13
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So heiro + the new totem support can put down four totems at a time? Seems fun. Shame about melee though
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Dec 4, 2018 03:17
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GGG is pretty brilliant by posting about nerfs and letting everyone get the anger out of their system for 24 hours before they release the patch notes to prop everyone up. I have a feeling there's going to be some love for melee tomorrow.
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Dec 4, 2018 03:19
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MMF Freeway posted:So heiro + the new totem support can put down four totems at a time? Naw, everything specifies "Drops two totems" not drops extra. Travesty.
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Dec 4, 2018 03:24
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Why would you ever want to be in melee range? That's where things explode and kill you.
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Dec 4, 2018 03:28
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The actual kicker that's hidden in the manifesto:quote:We found that with this change it was important to make skillbinds specific to your weapon set. You can now have an entirely different set of skills bound to your main set of weapons and your second set of weapons. More active ability slots!
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Dec 4, 2018 03:34
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Im Ready for DEATH posted:Why would you ever want to be in melee range? That's where things explode and kill you. I loving Love Mosh Pits
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Dec 4, 2018 03:34
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that's the way God intended for us to play these games
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Dec 4, 2018 03:34
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why would they make stat sticks unusable for melee, which really needed them to do insane damage, and still let them still work for spells is beyond me
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Dec 4, 2018 03:35
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Clearly it was melee that needed a nerf
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Dec 4, 2018 03:38
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Clockwerk posted:Clearly it was melee that needed a nerf They're making weapon crafting easier. It's way too early to say they're nerfing melee in general just because they removed a degenerate playstyle.
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