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PokeJoe posted:i really want to get a new job in the new year. im thinking about startups too but im not sure i wanna. one my friend works at wants me to write javascript for android 
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BigCo was also the only place that gave me a background check, most of the smaller startups asked for references. there was one job at a 10 person startup that i got entirely because i had one good reference (as in, i didn't have to interview at all). if it is going toward the way of background checks i guess i guess i'm glad tho
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Dec 23, 2018 23:55
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I personally resented the background check because they specifically refused to hold back that I previously had another name. they told my current employer the name I had at the time for any previous thing like college diploma, previous jobs, etc. basically forcing me to be outed to my company's hr to be employed. like, it wouldn't be that hard to just have the background check people just give a list of confirmed employers and events but nope they insist on smearing your deadname all over it.
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Dec 24, 2018 18:37
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KidDynamite posted:had a chat with a disney recruiter. from first impressions i don't think it would be a good time working there curious what kind of work and what the impressions were?
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Dec 24, 2018 18:53
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mod saas posted:curious what kind of work and what the impressions were? iOS dev position. Recruiter said they work with xamarin(lol cross platform), that they’re in the process of hiring a QA team but for now the devs write the QA scripts as well, that they are in a crunch to deliver their streaming service and she mentioned how overworked she was. It just seems bad to me.
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Dec 24, 2018 22:33
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jit bull transpile posted:I personally resented the background check because they specifically refused to hold back that I previously had another name. they told my current employer the name I had at the time for any previous thing like college diploma, previous jobs, etc. basically forcing me to be outed to my company's hr to be employed. ugh that’s horrid. I’m so glad my deadname has no professional presence.
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Dec 24, 2018 22:34
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Heard back from a pretest I did Saturday morning. They ended up rejecting me. I assumed it was going to happen though. I was on the last question, which asked for a tree traversal that printed every level on its own line. Instead, I gave them a pre-order traversal. Also this will sound like a complaint, but I was in the third hour for it and I just didn't want to spend another hour or so on it. I'm sure it means I'm too "dumb" or something, but it just means I need to practice more. At some point, I should be able to recognize how to solve these things. Better luck next time! 
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Dec 27, 2018 01:45
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mekkanare posted:Heard back from a pretest I did Saturday morning. They ended up rejecting me. I assumed it was going to happen though. I was on the last question, which asked for a tree traversal that printed every level on its own line. Instead, I gave them a pre-order traversal. Also this will sound like a complaint, but I was in the third hour for it and I just didn't want to spend another hour or so on it. I'm sure it means I'm too "dumb" or something, but it just means I need to practice more. At some point, I should be able to recognize how to solve these things. Better luck next time! these questions are dumb as gently caress and not at all related to any real job. they're staffed with dipshits who want to prove how smart they are and they're only going to wind up hiring people who obsessively read programming interview books rather than becoming better at things like communication, risk analysis, or being a human being i wouldn't worry about it
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Dec 27, 2018 04:15
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DELETE CASCADE posted:but its extremely BROWN, thats not so cool. 
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Dec 27, 2018 05:17
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background checks are easy to pass unless you're a fuckup. i had to sign off on giving up all my medical records and non-medical mental health poo poo, which they pulled.
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Dec 27, 2018 05:20
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the good news is one of my interviews went well enough that they asked me for references the bad news is its in the greater toronto area. those rents 
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Dec 27, 2018 08:35
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things have gotten curious at my current workplace after putting in the notice last week: the boss has told me that in order to leave the company i need to sign a non-compete - my response to this is "haha no" because this was not mentioned in any contract that i have signed and to the best of my knowledge documents signed under duress have no legal strength. probably i will end up signing it anyway because the next place will not be robotics and i dont care enough to start messing with lawyers whats even more curious is that the guy wants to keep my quitting a secret until the year ends, but of course some people already know as we are actively handing stuff over so now he is basically asking me to lie to cover his rear end (except i dont even know who else already knows) i have absolutely no regrets leaving this company, gently caress this poo poo, gently caress it
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Dec 27, 2018 10:31
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Penisface posted:things have gotten curious at my current workplace after putting in the notice last week: the boss has told me that in order to leave the company i need to sign a non-compete - my response to this is "haha no" because this was not mentioned in any contract that i have signed and to the best of my knowledge documents signed under duress have no legal strength. probably i will end up signing it anyway because the next place will not be robotics and i dont care enough to start messing with lawyers ShadowHawk fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Dec 27, 2018 |
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Dec 27, 2018 10:49
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ShadowHawk posted:How much severance are they offering if you sign? i did not ask but i am pretty sure that the number rhymes with hero 
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Dec 27, 2018 11:21
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why sign then? not sure I understand
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Dec 27, 2018 11:37
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a cyberpunk goose posted:why sign then? not sure I understand basically not worth it to pick this hill to die on?
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Dec 27, 2018 12:02
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what can they do if you simply refuse to sign?
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Dec 27, 2018 12:11
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redleader posted:what can they do if you simply refuse to sign? nothing that’s what
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Dec 27, 2018 12:23
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Rex-Goliath posted:these questions are dumb as gently caress and not at all related to any real job... I agree. It sucks but nothing I can do, so no point to worry. Penisface posted:the boss has told me that in order to leave the company i need to sign a non-compete Tell him 我慢。I'm sure he'd love it.
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Dec 27, 2018 12:43
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Penisface posted:i did not ask but i am pretty sure that the number rhymes with hero They're also being idiots. It's not a contract without them providing something of value to you. No payment would risk it being unenforceable. More constructively, ask how much severance you'll get in exchange for such a deal (at least 2 weeks pay is completely standard for this sort of thing, often more). Usually exit packages also include a release where you promise not to sue for whatever. It is 100% worth their while to pay you to get that out of you, don't give it away for free.
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A guy who used to work for us handed his notice in in September this year. HR immediately tried to get him to sign a piece of paper admitting to being tardy and not good at his job etc. I told him gently caress no don't sign that paper because there is nothing they can do to compel him, so he ended up refusing. Low and behold the company fired him anyway but with two weeks severance a day later. So I saved that guy at least 2k and he bought me a beer afterwards.
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Penisface posted:things have gotten curious at my current workplace after putting in the notice last week: the boss has told me that in order to leave the company i need to sign a non-compete - my response to this is "haha no" because this was not mentioned in any contract that i have signed and to the best of my knowledge documents signed under duress have no legal strength. probably i will end up signing it anyway because the next place will not be robotics and i dont care enough to start messing with lawyers Don't sign it. Even if you don't think you'll be working in the same industry, you might. Its not a "hill to die on" its a semi-awkward conversation between you and management. You're 100% in the right here.
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Penisface posted:i did not ask but i am pretty sure that the number rhymes with hero Penisface posted:basically not worth it to pick this hill to die on? lol just say no, wtf is wrong with you
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Dec 27, 2018 18:44
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jit bull transpile posted:I personally resented the background check because they specifically refused to hold back that I previously had another name. they told my current employer the name I had at the time for any previous thing like college diploma, previous jobs, etc. basically forcing me to be outed to my company's hr to be employed. a background check would be 100% useless if it could be evaded by changing your name, and 99% useless if it could be evaded by changing your sex perhaps obviously no one involved has any incentive whatsoever to care about your privacy
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Dec 27, 2018 19:01
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civilian background checks should just be a limited set of legally defined questions that the background checking service can validate without actually revealing detailed information like "Did this person attend this institution?" yes/no "did this person recieve this degree at said institution?" yes/no "Does the personal information this person provided to us match up with reality?" yes/no
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Dec 27, 2018 19:27
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:a background check would be 100% useless if it could be evaded by changing your name, and 99% useless if it could be evaded by changing your sex how the gently caress do you get "evaded" from what jbt posted?
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Dec 27, 2018 19:41
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:a background check would be 100% useless if it could be evaded by changing your name, and 99% useless if it could be evaded by changing your sex my reading was that jbt's objection was to the background check company revealing her deadname to the hiring company, not knowing it themselves
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raminasi posted:my reading was that jbt's objection was to the background check company revealing her deadname to the hiring company, not knowing it themselves exactly
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Cold on a Cob posted:lol just say no, wtf is wrong with you don't sign poo poo for no reason just cause someone wants you to
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Dec 27, 2018 19:50
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lancemantis posted:civilian background checks should just be a limited set of legally defined questions that the background checking service can validate without actually revealing detailed information well the problem here is if a past institution has her old name. also when you're dealing with the feds you have to check all your employees against several exclusion lists every month. theres no way the feds are going to let you ignore former names for an employee since that's litterrally the most common way people try to get around the lists. its unfortunate that trans people have to deal with multiple names, but there aren't really any reliable, alternate identifiers. you can try to use SSN but you're not supposed to plus not everyone keeps or makes SSN available for searches (for good reason).
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Dec 27, 2018 19:51
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still garbage: being rejected for not having a github filled with spare time projects welp
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:a background check would be 100% useless if it could be evaded by changing your name, and 99% useless if it could be evaded by changing your sex i get what you’re trying to say but wow this is just about the shittiest possible way to say it
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dead names and all their implications should be seen as similarly sensitive information as sexual orientation, religion, or medical history when it comes to background checks for regular employment, and asking for that information should definitely be something that lands you in legal trouble.
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Dec 27, 2018 19:54
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MononcQc posted:dead names and all their implications should be seen as similarly sensitive information as sexual orientation, religion, or medical history when it comes to background checks for regular employment, and asking for that information should definitely be something that lands you in legal trouble. background checks are literally the act of looking at who you were in the past
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Dec 27, 2018 19:56
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Chalks posted:background checks are literally the act of looking at who you were in the past jfc verification of employment, educational, and criminal history does not require sharing prior religion, gender, political affiliations, or pretty much anything that can lead to discrimination i get if you're walking into a NATIONAL SECURITY situation where blackmail is a possibility but we are absolutely not talking about that here
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Chalks posted:background checks are literally the act of looking at who you were in the past background checks are often asked for by corporations who would never actually need that information. I've had to clear two of them for Salesforce; once as an employee of Heroku, and once as a contractor. There's no way that salesforce needs to know that much about me given a lowly software dev job (who then ends up pulling code from various untrusted OSS sources the moment NPM enters the picture) with the same amount of details that GOES/Nexus/TSA PreCheck asked of me when I tried to get on a trusted travelers list. That this ends up leaking protected status information for a company that does not need and should not even have access to it is just blatantly wrong.
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while we're at it, for ordinary jobs credit checks shouldn't be allowed either 
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Chalks posted:background checks are literally the act of looking at who you were in the past background checks violate nondiscrimination acts when they have the potential to reveal trans status
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Cold on a Cob posted:while we're at it, for ordinary jobs credit checks shouldn't be allowed either thanks jerry 
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Cold on a Cob posted:jfc yeah, but it does require you to disclose your name, which is what's being discussed MononcQc posted:background checks are often asked for by corporations who would never actually need that information. I've had to clear two of them for Salesforce; once as an employee of Heroku, and once as a contractor. background checks really have no place in the majority of tech employment unless you're working in a particularly sensitive area. i've never heard of them being done for normal jobs in the UK, so perhaps this is a US thing? Pollyanna posted:background checks violate nondiscrimination acts when they have the potential to reveal trans status is that actually true? because that would render background checks useless which seems like something that wouldn't make it into a law
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