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evo psych is a joke field anyway [even among psychologists] since it's by nature entirely untestable; it's p much just old white guy opinions
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quote:Tesla is starting out 2019 in the red following news it missed Wall Street’s delivery estimates. The company said in a letter to investors that it delivered 90,700 vehicles during the fourth quarter. That’s a bit shy of what analysts expected. This, in part, caused the company’s stock to open nearly 8 percent down on the day.
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so did anything come from elon straight up admitting that his 'funding secured' tweet was to save the company from imminent death or is that another one i can toss into the 2018  poo poo-pile?
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wolrah posted:Aside from the ease of swapping to winter tires already noted, most vehicles these days come with larger wheels than they really need to have for styling reasons. Having dedicated winter wheels allows you to "minus size" and gain more sidewall which is a very good thing on potholed roads. They're also generally narrower which helps it punch through snow/ice to get good grip instead of floating and losing traction
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Rex-Goliath posted:so did anything come from elon straight up admitting that his 'funding secured' tweet was to save the company from imminent death or is that another one i can toss into the 2018 isn't that why he had to not be chairman anymore?
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For your entertainment: https://www.postandcourier.com/opin...fc5de09ff5.html
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Rex-Goliath posted:so did anything come from elon straight up admitting that his 'funding secured' tweet was to save the company from imminent death or is that another one i can toss into the 2018 the SEC was going to charge Muskie with securities fraud but he finally settled with a big fine and losing chairman of the board position while keeping ceo. also appointing 2 new board positions (one of which went to Larry Ellison lol)
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mewse posted:the SEC was going to charge Muskie with securities fraud but he finally settled with a big fine and losing chairman of the board position while keeping ceo. also appointing 2 new board positions (one of which went to Larry Ellison lol) the SEC wants things done by the book and thats like the one thing Larry Ellison knows how to do: ripping you off and staying just on the right side of the law
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qirex posted:isn't that why he had to not be chairman anymore? no that was the slap on the wrist punishment the suit he should be facing should be from the shorters who now know by his own admission that they were correct / tesla was days away from going completely bust. instead the damages were assumed to be just some slight market movements and only worth a few million in damages
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has Elon musk ever been deposed? I can’t imagine handling a lawyer’s questioning as badly as he does twitter criticism, but he might!
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Rex-Goliath posted:no that was the slap on the wrist punishment minority shareholder lawsuits usually fail now and I'd guess most of the big shorters are still fairly confident their bet will work out
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qirex posted:evo psych is a joke field anyway [even among psychologists] since it's by nature entirely untestable; it's p much just old white guy opinions I honestly don't understand why anyone gives it any credence at all. it's creative writing masquerading as a science
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indigi posted:I honestly don't understand why anyone gives it any credence at all. it's creative writing masquerading as a science FMguru fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Jan 2, 2019 |
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Jan 2, 2019 19:51
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FMguru posted:are you suggesting that "women like the color pink because their eyes evolved to notice and prize berries when they were the gatherer half of hunter-gatherer civilizations" isn't a rock-solid unassailable scientific face?
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mystes posted:Is that a real evolutionary psychology claim? It's pretty weird considering that pink was considered a manly color in the recent past. FMguru fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jan 2, 2019 |
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mystes posted:Is that a real evolutionary psychology claim? It's pretty weird considering that pink was considered a manly color in the recent past. why would an evolutionary psychologist know anything at all about recorded history. those are just details
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qirex posted:evo psych is a joke field anyway [even among psychologists] since it's by nature entirely untestable; it's p much just old white guy opinions it's totally testable: mystes posted:Is that a real evolutionary psychology claim? It's pretty weird considering that pink was considered a manly color in the recent past. test failed new hypothesis: pink is the manly color of meat and the switch to viewing it as a girl color reflects modern feminism corrupting traditional gender roles i can prove it experimentally, just give me 60 years, 500 healthy babies, and the funds to build and work the skinner boxes
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while the criticisms here have a lot of weight they could be (mis)applied to a lot of social sciences, and it turns out that a lot of stuff (about humans, society, the overall direction of same) aren't really amenable to the pure scientific method, so making some room to argue about this stuff is worthwhile the usual biotruths are right out of course. still, a lot of psychology is really borderline but we have few options other than to keep guessing and arguing about it in 2019 this has to be taken against the background of making sure outright fascists and/or 300 year old academics don't get a whole lot of say granted, making this doubly complicated, but no less important
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in psychology you can at least design some kind of test for your hypothesis, even if [as is often the case] your assumptions, criteria or conclusions are bullshit at least you defined an experiment and ran it and collected data so much of eco psych is so clearly based on western cultural stereotypes that it doesn’t even hold up to cursory examination [e.g. pink was a manly color until fairly recently]
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theories of human evolution are only testable using ancient evidence theories of human psychology are extremely hard to ethically test on living subjects and impossible to properly examine in ancient subjects trying to combine the two is dumb but it is true that you want to be careful how you argue it bc YECs love to say that "evolution isn't testable" bc you can't witness it in real time in a lab* *biologists have driven bacterial evolution via selection pressures in the lab, but it doesn't count to a YEC unless you can turn a monkey into a modern human
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I want that image in this video format with salsa music and I refuse to put any effort in to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9K18CGEeiI
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FMguru posted:are you suggesting that "women like the color pink because their eyes evolved to notice and prize berries when they were the gatherer half of hunter-gatherer civilizations" isn't a rock-solid unassailable scientific fact? "Our bodies evolved this way because it was advantageous in evolution, which led to us evolve this way"
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Lord Stimperor posted:"Our bodies evolved this way because it was advantageous in evolution, which led to us evolve this way" isn't it more like "organisms with trait <x> survive long enough to reproduce"?
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thick thighs thin hair
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:I want that image in this video format with salsa music and I refuse to put any effort in to it here i got you half way there 
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THANK u g-d bless
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aardvaard posted:here i got you half way there got a good reason for takin' the tunnel route out
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imagine getting paid to pull stupid just-so stories out of your rear end, that's evo-psych elon musk is also paid to pull stupid bullshit out of his rear end in addition to being a lame dad
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:theories of human evolution are only testable using ancient evidence evopsych boils down to asserting that Western cultural preferences and social cues are actually biologically ingrained in human beings by thousands of years of natural selection determining them to be the most optimal possible preferences like, sure, the human brain has probably been influenced by evolutionary pressures to some degree, that much is obvious. but evopsych folks often don't stop there - they go on to claim poo poo like "women experience jealousy in a fundamentally different way from men because the social implications of uteruses caused their brains to evolve emotions differently" or "men are genetically hardwired to be attracted to skinny young women, while women don't care about appearance but are biologically compelled to desire high-status men" it's a bullshit factory. they just take their weird racist and misogynistic fears and fantasies, hypothesize that they're the result of cavemen being beep-boop social robots a hundred thousand years ago, and then give a personality test to fifty white American college students to prove that these personality traits are universal
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my MIL is always saying evopsych-style bullshit like "the maternal grandmother always cares the most of anyone for the grandchildren bc it's their only chance to carry on their genes" (completely coincidentally she is the maternal grandmother to our kids, go figure!)
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:my MIL is always saying evopsych-style bullshit like "the maternal grandmother always cares the most of anyone for the grandchildren bc it's their only chance to carry on their genes" (completely coincidentally she is the maternal grandmother to our kids, go figure!)
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mystes posted:Can evopsych explain why people tend to use evopsych to justify their existing preconceptions? cavemen who dwelt on the impact of their preconceptions were killed by less empathetic cavemen who were able to seamlessly justify their awful opinions after the fact
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testable evopsych hypothesis: men with low quality sperm are more attentive fathers; optimal parenting is achieved via post-fertilization castration
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:my MIL is always saying evopsych-style bullshit like "the maternal grandmother always cares the most of anyone for the grandchildren bc it's their only chance to carry on their genes" (completely coincidentally she is the maternal grandmother to our kids, go figure!) how do paternal grandmothers pass on their genes? spores?
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the talent deficit posted:how do paternal grandmothers pass on their genes? spores? that's what old lady smell is yeah they put it off like zorak
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the talent deficit posted:how do paternal grandmothers pass on their genes? spores? it’s true for sex chromosomes I guess
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