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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Brawnfire posted:

Big crack-up moment for me.

And drat, loved the hull plating peeling off while the ship plummeted into the sun.

Yup.

There was a lot of love in the effects work this episode.

Wait, nobody ever batted an eye that Bones or Crusher were hanging around the bridge.

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The Human Crouton
Sep 20, 2002

mllaneza posted:

Yup.

There was a lot of love in the effects work this episode.

Wait, nobody ever batted an eye that Bones or Crusher were hanging around the bridge.

I think TNG started the doctor being off bridge in season 2.

And every iteration before and after TNG had the ship psychologist be so far from the bridge that you never see them.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


The Human Crouton posted:

I think we're assuming too much Federation protocol here.

Maybe they are all on the bridge in the union. Which sounds like the least tactically sound idea ever.

Federation protocol?

Scotty and Bones were routinely on the bridge.

Same can be said for Crusher and La Forge.

power crystals
Jun 6, 2007

Who wants a belly rub??

Brawnfire posted:

And drat, loved the hull plating peeling off while the ship plummeted into the sun.

I wonder if that damage will persist or if they'll just offhand mention they took it to a repair yard or whatever the Union uses.

The Human Crouton
Sep 20, 2002

bull3964 posted:

Federation protocol?

Scotty and Bones were routinely on the bridge.

Same can be said for Crusher and La Forge.

Check an few posts down, cadet. I'm way ahead of you.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

power crystals posted:

I wonder if that damage will persist or if they'll just offhand mention they took it to a repair yard or whatever the Union uses.

Wasn't the first episode already supposed to be the second one til fox moved it around?

Windows 98
Nov 13, 2005

HTTP 400: Bad post
The Orville is such a good show especially when Seth is hardly in it.

power crystals
Jun 6, 2007

Who wants a belly rub??

Azhais posted:

Wasn't the first episode already supposed to be the second one til fox moved it around?

I've seen claims that both this episode and the previous were meant to be the end of S1, and also that these two were and weren't swapped. In my opinion S2E1 would have made way more sense as the end of S1 given its lower stakes and the wrapping up of the Ed/Kelly garbage. It'd make a fair bit of sense if Fox saw the plot for this one and went "no gently caress that we're not putting that in a season premiere" and then held back that last episode for that reason but I have no idea how far in advance this one was written.

Or maybe I'm talking entirely out of my rear end, who knows.

Maera Sior
Jan 5, 2012

This one was from last season. The Ed/Kelly relationship, the call-out to an earlier (but same season) episode, and some of the production details give it away. Plus the production number.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
I said it before, I wonder if we will ever get a real First Contact scenario where it isn't just accidental or they have to rescue the new species from doom.

Somehow with how the crew is portrayed I would imagine it as less an invitation to a larger world but more like inviting them to a frat party.

Zurui
Apr 20, 2005
Even now...



drat, that opening shot of the bridge was great.

Great episode, but it definitely felt out of order. I can see them burning up the ship before the season break. Apparently there were some reshoots with the new sets though.

I wish I was cool enough to make my own Space Trip.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




evilmiera posted:

I said it before, I wonder if we will ever get a real First Contact scenario where it isn't just accidental or they have to rescue the new species from doom.

There was a First Contact situation in the season trailer, so probably.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

Windows 98 posted:

The Orville is such a good show especially when Seth is hardly in it.

This is true for the most part, but it's his rodeo and that's the price of admission.

He does have his moments like "Neat! What now?"

Also, how can you have a Giant Junior bacon cheeseburger?

power crystals
Jun 6, 2007

Who wants a belly rub??

Maera Sior posted:

This one was from last season. The Ed/Kelly relationship, the call-out to an earlier (but same season) episode, and some of the production details give it away. Plus the production number.

Fair enough!

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
Rewatching with my wife who went to bed early.

Bortus just compared the sex drive to a baby seeking it's mother's teat. I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE
we haven't seen yaphet yet this season, other than I think a glimpse in the background of one shot. I wonder if they're easing off on the character? Last season he always felt like a forced insert into episodes. I didn't particularly care for him and I hope we don't see as much of him moving forward.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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What blunder? He was talking about how strong biological compulsions can be, not that the baby is getting hard on for titties.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

What blunder? He was talking about how strong biological compulsions can be, not that the baby is getting hard on for titties.

All those Moclan mothers.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
They can be all male and still have one be the mother.

Klyden got them perky bois.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Lost in universal translation, perhaps.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

They can be all male and still have one be the mother.

Klyden got them perky bois.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K03qSe8id0&t=54s

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Brawnfire posted:

Big crack-up moment for me.

And drat, loved the hull plating peeling off while the ship plummeted into the sun.

That whole exchange was great. I also liked "Free gas!" very early on

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

If their entire shuttle bay filled with that super rare mineral only powers them for a year that actually doesn't seem like great fuel efficiency for a long range exploration ship.

Gaj
Apr 30, 2006
Rewatch:

Did Bortus say: I did not realize SHE was this unhappy.

Is that an actor miss read or was that the character Bortus still being conflicted with Klyden's sex change?

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

Gaj posted:

Rewatch:

Did Bortus say: I did not realize SHE was this unhappy.

Is that an actor miss read or was that the character Bortus still being conflicted with Klyden's sex change?

I watch all tv with captions and they say He.

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

In 20 years kids on the internet are going to be posting this pic as a meme and think it's from TNG.

M_Sinistrari
Sep 5, 2008

Do you like scary movies?



Gromit posted:

Christ no. I want to see an episode of just Bortus taking the place of the innocent co-ed in every cliché straight porn scene ever.
"Oh, I seem to have misplaced my currency. However will I pay the delivery man for this sustenance?" - bow chicka wow wow!

I admit I was a little surprised they didn't do that one.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Beachcomber posted:

I watch all tv with captions and they say He.
Captions are done by remote workers making less than minimum wage.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!
It bothered me when Bortus said "a child after their mother's teat" because why would he say mother?

Otherwise it was a really enjoyable episode. The alien with the practical effect body but (I assume) a CGI face was really goddamn good.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

LividLiquid posted:

Captions are done by remote workers making less than minimum wage.

On new shows, don't they just use the script? I've never noticed any discrepancy except for older things.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Taear posted:

It bothered me when Bortus said "a child after their mother's teat" because why would he say mother?

Otherwise it was a really enjoyable episode. The alien with the practical effect body but (I assume) a CGI face was really goddamn good.

Could simply be a writer slip-up. Could also be a Freudian slip given Bortas' guilt over the forced gender alteration.

Could even be both

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


There's a lot of possible explanations for that line. It could be that most species in the Union have males and females, so that kind of metaphor is used by a Moclan regardless. It could be that they literally breastfeed their children too, and mother is a gender neutral term for them.

A lot of the Moclan physiology doesn't make that much sense to me regardless, but I don't really care because Bortus is a fun character.

HardKase
Jul 15, 2007
TASTY
This episode was gold. Perfect mix of humor and sci fi. I thought the season premiere was a little weak but this episode has me in board 100%.

Porn addiction, cultural ritual murder for divorce, a solar glare destroying the last of a species, then getting a computer virus from dodgy porn.

Amazing. Not perfect (they need to work out exactly what they are doing with kelly) but pretty close.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
It's an idiom. I chocked it up to cultural influence.

I remember reading a book from a Caribbean author set on a Caribbean island and a local character indicated that --

the coast is clear

-- by saying --

no hay moros en la costa

-- which translates to --

there are no Moors on the coast

Apparently carried over from Iberia to the Caribbean.

Note: Landlocked people say, "the coast is clear," too.

Dietrich
Sep 11, 2001

Accretionist posted:

It's an idiom. I chocked it up to cultural influence.

I remember reading a book from a Caribbean author set on a Caribbean island and a local character indicated that --

the coast is clear

-- by saying --

no hay moros en la costa

-- which translates to --

there are no Moors on the coast

Apparently carried over from Iberia to the Caribbean.

Note: Landlocked people say, "the coast is clear," too.

That's still the result of hundreds of years of cultural homogenization, the Moclans are still at a point where they have to explain that they divorce people by stabbing them and have yearly piss parties to other members of the Union, it doesn't seem likely that they would have picked up and internalized that kind of idiom yet.

And anyway it's doubly weird that a man from an all male species would choose to describe a biological impulse to a robot from an all robot species with an example from a third species with completely different reproductive systems. I mean it's minor oversight not worth getting all worked up over but it's not something that should have survived to the second draft. I would be interested to know if Peter Macon or Kevin Hooks (director) overlooked it or left it in because they thought it was more important to relate to the audience than strive for verisimilitude.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
Don't Moclans have eggs? It would stand to reason that they don't nurse at all, and he's referring to creatures that do nurse their young.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



In that case it's odd for a Moclan to use that idiom. That sort of thing is the hardest for non-native speakers to pick up.

This is a weird thing to sperg out about though.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Phenotype posted:

In that case it's odd for a Moclan to use that idiom. That sort of thing is the hardest for non-native speakers to pick up.

This is a weird thing to sperg out about though.

Don't be an ableist.

And it's more that it stuck out when they make such a big deal of how the race is all men. I guess everyone being baffled at Moclans stabbing their partners is sort of surprising too though. They must be channeling TOS with the Ponn Farr, that's all I can think.
Picking up phrases about mothers when the cultural practices of Moclan are new is a bit disappointing to me and feels like something Seth would be super careful about, I dunno.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
It’s just Bortus advancing his new pro-female agenda.

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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
Seriously, have any of you ever tried to explain something intangible to someone else? Sometimes you have to fill in the holes with something else you're aware of. So many Bortus has seen human babies reaching for their mom's titties.

Anyway, watching this episode with my roommate really just gave me a relaxed, familiar feeling, like when I used to watch TNG with my dad. It really is too bad my dad is a trek lifer who's all-in on STD.

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