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It's tough to pick which episode makes people cheer for charismatic space Hitler.
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lol but seriously I posted:so i'm not crazy for thinking that sisko pushed dukat into "explicitly just murder all bajorans" mode right? like he was at least lying to himself that he had their interests at heart before this? is it "better" to wrap all your space racism up in layers of self delusion? I think it's more that Sisko pushed Dukat into dropping the pretense and saying what he really thought rather than all the justifications he had built up for himself over the years.
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whats wrong with wanting to murder all bajorans?
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rear end cobra posted:whats wrong with wanting to murder all bajorans? That would mean you'd have to kill America's favorite son, Steven Weber
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Just want to say "Waltz" rules and is one of my favorite episodes
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i am not saying it influenced critical darling six feet under but are there any earlier precursors to the whole "conversation with a person who is not there but you are really talking to yourself" thing? would not be surprised just curious
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/\ Due South is the only show that pops into my head with those criteria.Xenocides posted:If you want a dark show about secret operations in the Star Trek Universe just run with it and have it be about the Tal Shiar or the Obsidian Order so you can get rid of the pretense that you are the “good guys”. You can't reuse Federation starship sets and have half the away mission take place in malls if you go that way. Also, the makeup budget would be 10X what a section 31 show would be.
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Blistex posted:/\ Due South is the only show that pops into my head with those criteria. Use old style Romulans before they altered their faces for some reason. Then all you ave to do is change the ears and give the skin a greener tint and you are done.
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Jan 16, 2019 03:48
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Xenocides posted:Use old style Romulans before they altered their faces for some reason. Then all you ave to do is change the ears and give the skin a greener tint and you are done. This would also allow the first real exploration of what Romulan culture is actually like.
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Star Trek 2009 did away with most of the Romulan face changes anyway.
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CaptainSkinny posted:This would also allow the first real exploration of what Romulan culture is actually like. diane duance novels apparently have a Romulan romulannness
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CaptainSkinny posted:This would also allow the first real exploration of what Romulan culture is actually like. vulcan but always horny and angry instead of every 7 years horny and angry
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THS posted:vulcan but always horny and angry instead of every 7 years horny and angry That's kind of the problem. It would be a chance to make them something other than a monoculture. Then again, missed opportunities is the name of the game with new Star Trek.
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they need to leave cardassians alone because they nailed non-monoculture perfectly there, despite having a culture with a defined thrust, and that's it, we're not getting another damar. thats it guys go home.
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Jan 16, 2019 04:30
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Make a goddamned show with Garak as the lead jeez
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Pick posted:diane duance novels apparently have a Romulan romulannness Roddenberry hated them so much he tried to get them yanked out of publication, therefore they are good Also I would unironically subscribe to CBS All Access for Garak's Weekly Holoprogram Cheers & Jeers shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Jan 16, 2019 |
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shame on an IGA posted:Roddenberry hated them so much he tried to get them yanked out of publication, therefore they are good What didn’t he like about them?
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isn't diane duane the one who wrote Dreadnaught! with it's mary sue character and objectivist ranting if so she sucks
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Tighclops posted:isn't diane duane the one who wrote Dreadnaught! with it's mary sue character and objectivist ranting Wrong Diane, that was Diane Carey.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Just want to say "Waltz" rules and is one of my favorite episodes Watching it now and lol at Potatoes' palpable disappointment when he beams two randos aboard instead of Sisko. "Great, more fookin' officers..." Laterite fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Jan 16, 2019 |
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Jan 16, 2019 05:19
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What if Romulans but they were descended from Rom when he falls backward in time after fiddling with a ship's warp core.
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Diane Duane's Star Trek books are pretty good. In addition to the Romulan books, she wrote, among others, "Spock's World", which is set on Vulcan and is half Kirk and the gang and half about Vulcan history, Doctor's Orders, where McCoy finds himself in charge of the Enterprise, and Dark Mirror, which is a TNG book where mirror universe Enterprise shows up, and actual Enterprise has to stop them. There's this great scene where Picard finds himself in Mirror Universe Picard's quarters, looking at his library. He starts flipping through the books, which are a lot darker than the real versions (For instance, in their Merchant of Venice, Portia orders Shylock to cut out Antonio's heart, and mocks Antonio about it). Picard then starts to pick up a bible, then puts it back, deciding he'd rather not know.
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Jan 16, 2019 05:26
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concept: romulan anime
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Makes sense. Way back then he founded a settlement called Rom’s and Yours Land. Over time it got shortened to Romyours Land. Then even shorter to Romyourlan. Then we have Romulan.
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Jan 16, 2019 05:28
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Pick posted:diane duance novels apparently have a Romulan romulannness Have you read them
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Pick posted:concept: romulan anime I get the feeling they'd like Death Note, or those fantasy/sci-fi epics with super complicated plots where scheming bastards have plans within plans that involve giant robot battles.
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shovelbum posted:Have you read them no, but I have them, FCA lent them to me a couple weeks ago
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Pick posted:no, but I have them, FCA lent them to me a couple weeks ago they were cool as a kid I should read them again. I liked the language and history segments and stuff
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Jan 16, 2019 05:56
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Human anime is to boobs as Romulan anime is to shoulders.
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Cat Army
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I get the feeling they'd like Death Note, or those fantasy/sci-fi epics with super complicated plots where scheming bastards have plans within plans that involve giant robot battles. Legend of the Galactic Heroes sounds right up their alley
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i love morn
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Laterite posted:i love morn morn's a drunk. he won't treat you right
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numberoneposter posted:
The future's so bright, I gotta Worf Shades Danaru posted:S13 I know this is a typo but now I wanna see a Star Trek Warehouse 13 about the special team that confiscates all the ultrapowerful tech that the Enterprise makes/discovers to solve their weekly problems and secures all the dangerous anomalies and artifacts like the Guardian of Forever and Iconian gateways.
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lol but seriously I posted:morn's a drunk. he won't treat you right riker would be fun and considerate until you've given up the goods then you'd get ghosted
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picard would be so aloof that you will drive yourself crazy trying define what exactly it is you have got going on until you just sever to be done with it
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shovelbum posted:Have you read them I have. Her books are pretty good.
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Lol, this rules
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Xenocides posted:I could see a Section 31 show working if it involves mostly benign missions and then slowly grows darker and the protagonists eventually rebel against it and work together to expose it. The thing I do not get is who is behind it? The Federation Council? The President? Who is authorizing this stuff? Or are these more extreme measures unauthorized by the leadership? The whole point of Section 31, which pretty much everyone but the original DS9 writers who came up with it have missed, is that there was nobody from the Federation behind it. It was a completely 100% unsanctioned terrorist group that had deluded themselves into thinking they were the hard men the Federation clearly needed to do hard things to protect Paradise. Honestly, that's what kind of irks me about Ross looking the other way/tacitly supporting their actions on Romulus. Not only because it was almost a complete 180 from his characterization up to that point, but because it was the first time a Federation official was at all implied to be working with them in any way, which then grew with the last plot line involving them RE: the Founder disease and Starfleet Medical. But anyway, seriously, the whole thing about Section 31 is that they're supposed to be a bunch of completely unsanctioned terrorists that have no connection to or support from whatsoever to the Federation, and trying to pawn them off as being 'the Federation's CIA' is just...wrong.
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Laterite posted:i love morn I was always disappointed that they never gave Morn a bar-mate. . . named Filc.
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