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ol qwerty bastard posted:i know musk wasn't born in america but he sure has adopted the culture much as i love za you will very much learn that lie there at least as effectively as in the us
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:widespread adoption of EVs would only make this worse - both lessening the impact of long commutes as well as undermining the motivation to build more transit
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FMguru posted:that goes double for autonomous vehicles (assuming those arrive in less than geologic time) my friend that works in AVs recently told me that he's "over lidar" lol that poo poo's never gonna happen
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Rex-Goliath posted:yuuup this is all too common. even once they're in the bank it's not unheard of for contracts to require repayment of bonuses under some circumstances
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:my friend that works in AVs recently told me that he's "over lidar" personally, i love the "well humans don't have lidar" argument from proponents of purely optical recognition systems. i mean that's true, and if you manage to shove a human brain behind your webcams that might even matter, but until then you probably ought not be comparing your bullshit to what humans do to navigate the world.
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infernal machines posted:personally, i love the "well humans don't have lidar" argument from proponents of purely optical recognition systems. That is why humans can't vacuum efficiently in the dark but a $150 robot can.
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infernal machines posted:personally, i love the "well humans don't have lidar" argument from proponents of purely optical recognition systems. self-driving cars will simultaneously be way better than humans at avoiding crashing but also must have all the limitations of humans, got it
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infernal machines posted:personally, i love the "well humans don't have lidar" argument from proponents of purely optical recognition systems. here's an excerpt from traffic about that quote:In certain ways, Junior has advantages over humans, which is precisely why some robotic devices, like adaptive cruise control—which tracks via lasers the distance to the car in front and reacts accordingly—have already begun to appear in cars. When calculating the distance between himself and the car ahead, as with ACC, Junior is much more accurate than we are—to within one meter, according to Michael Montemerlo, a researcher at Stanford. “People always ask if Junior will sense other people’s brake lights,” Montemerlo said. “Our answer is, you don’t really have to. Junior has the ability to measure the velocity of another car very precisely. That will tell you a car’s braking. You actually get their velocity instead of this one bit of information saying ‘I’m slowing down.’ That’s much more information than a person gets.” he's also got a chapter about visual illusions and perception of distance and how we process that stuff basically, human visual limitations suck and lol at wanting to just copy that right over. imagine thinking that instead of measuring the distance to the car in front of you, the goal should be to detect brake lights and guess at distance and speed H.P. Hovercraft fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Jan 21, 2019 |
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i guess you can do both with stereoscopic imaging, but like they said, you don't really need to if you have a better way of determining the speed of the vehicle in front of you already.
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i wonder if it's better to know the instantaneous velocity and closure rate of the car ahead, or the driver's intent (am i pressing the brake, or just absentmindedly letting off the gas?)
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Sagebrush posted:i wonder if it's better to know the instantaneous velocity and closure rate of the car ahead, or the driver's intent (am i pressing the brake, or just absentmindedly letting off the gas?) why do you think felon's trying to get everyone to sign up for brain chips
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just take a leaf out of warhammer's book and plug the brain from a fatally-injured human driver into a car. boom - you've got an autonomous car and you didn't have to create a thinking machine "even in death i swerve"
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:"even in death i swerve" snort
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psiox posted:imagine being trapped in a post-mortem virtual hell where you're just driving forever in a simulation that maps to reality so you can chauffeur drunken college kids until such time as you're compacted and recycled pretty sure this was the plot of like, 3 or 4 metal gears
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:"even in death i swerve" lol
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:just take a leaf out of warhammer's book and plug the brain from a fatally-injured human driver into a car. boom - you've got an autonomous car and you didn't have to create a thinking machine 
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poo poo i should really play those all i know about that series is that it believes in living mas (dumb image redacted as it is too huge) presumably your post-mortem consciousness would get a big speech from virtual elon that your corporeal self with rights consented to this before turning you loose to take out emergency vehicles psiox fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jan 21, 2019 |
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:"even in death i swerve" 
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psiox posted:imagine being trapped in a post-mortem virtual hell where you're just driving forever in a simulation that maps to reality so you can chauffeur drunken college kids until such time as you're compacted and recycled this, except it will be a pre-mortem physical hell, staffed entirely by wage slaves in a third world country (america in 2022) like why bother inventing the tech to plug a dead person's brain into a driverless car when you can give an alive person an xbox controller and $5 bucks an hour to do the same thing
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Plank Walker posted:like why bother inventing the tech to plug a dead person's brain into a driverless car when you can give an alive person an xbox controller and $5 bucks an hour to do the same thing Now! That's What I Call Shareholder Value
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this seems a good time to remind everyone to read Manna as it's still the most realistic view of the future of automation if we let capitalism keep running everything: http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm just ignore the last part where they go to the utopian robot future australia because lol
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Plank Walker posted:this, except it will be a pre-mortem physical hell, staffed entirely by wage slaves in a third world country (america in 2022) latency?
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Plank Walker posted:this, except it will be a pre-mortem physical hell, staffed entirely by wage slaves in a third world country (america in 2022) Dude we already have uber
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Nfcknblvbl posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nh_vxpycEA good news, we have a solution 
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:
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Plank Walker posted:like why bother inventing the tech to plug a dead person's brain into a driverless car when you can give an alive person an xbox controller and $5 bucks an hour to do the same thing i suspect you'd be a billionaire in short order if you could be bothered to productize this
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Shame Boy posted:pretty sure this was the plot of like, 3 or 4 metal gears going back and realizing that kojima predicted 9/11 and the meme wars is a huge mindfuck
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ol qwerty bastard posted:good news, we have a solution man i'm depressed that mel brooks was too old to do starballs 2: the next evolution he had a great 1on1 interview with conan and he was all with it and poo poo, just seemed tired out
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:my friend that works in AVs recently told me that he's "over lidar" lol
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Nfcknblvbl posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nh_vxpycEA well that's one way to get more conservative votes
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syscall girl posted:man i'm depressed that mel brooks was too old to do starballs 2: the next evolution he fought against actual nazis in ww2, spent his later life trying to strip away any remaining power they had through mockery, and now they're back and the president is basically one of them of course he's tired
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syscall girl posted:man i'm depressed that mel brooks was too old to do starballs 2: the next evolution "the search for more money" cmon man
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Sagebrush posted:he fought against actual nazis in ww2, spent his later life trying to strip away any remaining power they had through mockery, and now they're back and the president is basically one of them
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psiox posted:poo poo i should really play those the Adeptus Mexicanicus of the Forge World Taco Bella edit: Taco Bellicosia edit2: the Adeptex-Mexicanicus El_Elegante fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jan 21, 2019 |
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Truga posted:"the search for more money" cmon man spaceballs 3: the search for 2
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Sagebrush posted:he fought against actual nazis in ww2, spent his later life trying to strip away any remaining power they had through mockery, and now they're back and the president is basically one of them i just said i was depressed i don't even own a-- well i get the tweets
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psiox posted:imagine being trapped in a post-mortem virtual hell where you're just driving forever in a simulation that maps to reality so you can chauffeur drunken college kids until such time as you're compacted and recycled they already did that, but for home automation
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