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KillHour posted:I was given endless poo poo in this thread for saying the exact same thing about my Fiio. Calling a couple of unhelpful replies "endless poo poo" is stretching it juuuust a bit. Either way, maybe your E17 has the same issue, but I'm not sure if they're even remotely similar in IC/opamp choice and design. Though obviously if both are missing a proper 48KHz clock, they'll show similar issues. I'd like to see some measurements of the E17. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Feb 25, 2019 |
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This is the thread for mocking people, anyone who does any seriousposting here should expect to be mocked. Sadly $120 DACs aren't especially funny as far as this poo poo goes, unless someone thinks they reticulate the mids.
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I have three pair of speakers and only one are actively used but I'm constantly shopping for more he;lp
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ItBreathes posted:This is the thread for mocking people, anyone who does any seriousposting here should expect to be mocked. The only reticulation will be of splines, thank you very much.
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it's a log10 scale so a $120 DAC is a mild chuckle, a $1200 DAC is reasonably funny and a $12,000 DAC is hilarious: It's called "Dave" [seriously] and looks like it was designed by the guy who did the Nautilus for "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen"
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Every time I look in here I remember I need to start making audiophile equipment.
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KozmoNaut posted:It's me, I'm the audiophile. I just ordered a fancy DAC. Well not that fancy, just $120 fancy (Topping D30). I could just use the stereo output from my monitor with HDMI/DisplayPort audio, but the Topping has a fancy aluminum case and toggle switches. I have the TP30 on my desk at work, running a set of ATH-M50's. I put about $250 into the whole setup, and I've been using it for 8 years without issue. Everything is comfortable, no distortion, bass pounds, nothing is hissy. You only get one set of ears, and that gear will amortize out to like $30/year or less.
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qirex posted:it's a log10 scale so a $120 DAC is a mild chuckle, a $1200 DAC is reasonably funny and a $12,000 DAC is hilarious: E: Thought it was $120K. Silly me. $12K is peanuts. http://www.msbtechnology.com/dacs/select-features/ I dare you to click the "Pricing" link. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Feb 25, 2019 |
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quote:DAVE stands for ‘Digital to Analogue Veritas in Extremis’, a moniker that best reflects the product’s capability; a device so advanced and with so few compromises, that it is absolutely truthful in the extreme — a standard that all other DACs on the market simply cannot hope to match. 
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Feb 25, 2019 21:26
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My DAC is so dark and secretive it is like listening in a cave miles underground.
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Feb 25, 2019 21:36
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Lol if you don't have an actual underground listening cave.
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Feb 25, 2019 21:46
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KozmoNaut posted:E: Thought it was $120K. Silly me. God I love stupidly over-engineered stuff like this. God help me if I ever win the powerball, because I will be rightly tempted by this level of gear, waste of money or not 
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quote:Each DAC is unique So, each is unique because the serial number is programmed into the unit?? Anyway, this thing is rediculously awesome. It has 8
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quote:The DAC, which is also a reference-level headphone amplifier and ‘digital preamp’, distils twenty years of Chord research, development and advanced engineering into one device. At its heart lies a new version of the advanced Spartan 6 Field Programmable Gate Array (FPGA) with 1,000x the processing power of the traditional mass-produced chip DAC. DAVE’s FPGA is loaded with over a million lines of code to confront complex timing issues head-on, with speed and precision. About 999998 of these lines are just comments, right?
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vhdl is pretty loving verbose, but yeah that seems like a lot. You know what else a normal dac doesn't have? A million gates toggling all the time producing electrical noise.
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LOL at them advertising a clock that has "less than 77 femtoseconds of jitter" with an upgrade to one that has "less than 33 femtoseconds." For reference, it takes about 3000 femtoseconds for light to travel 1 millimeter.
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Konstantin posted:LOL at them advertising a clock that has "less than 77 femtoseconds of jitter" with an upgrade to one that has "less than 33 femtoseconds." For reference, it takes about 3000 femtoseconds for light to travel 1 millimeter. For any real audiophile that's an eternity. Us Golden Ears can hear that poo poo. Which is why I own a $75,000 USB cable you plebe.
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So you're saying... we need to get the upgrade!
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KozmoNaut posted:E: Thought it was $120K. Silly me. But that only has 2 or 3 boxes. I prefer the dCS four box solution, personally: https://www.dcsltd.co.uk/vivaldi/
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lmao 33 femtoseconds? Let me know when it's actually fast!
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Panty Saluter posted:I have three pair of speakers and only one are actively used but I'm constantly shopping for more At last count I own 6 subs and 6 pairs of stereo speakers and my house isn't big so don't feel bad at all about wanting more, I do... One day I'll treat myself to some Beolab Pentas because I want that 80s sci-fi aesthetic at which point I'll probably pare down the collection and donate it to friends who need some decent sound. 
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TheMadMilkman posted:But that only has 2 or 3 boxes. I prefer the dCS four box solution, personally: That doesn't support 32-bit 3,072kHz PCM, though. Useless.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Beolab Pentas I read that as Beolab Peasants and I'm sticking to it.
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the MSB DACs are messing with me some because my first exposure to them was the Link DAC III, which was renowned as a value-for-money hero. I had a chance to listen to one in my house and it definitely brought background detail into finer focus...whether or not that was worth 4 bills is another discussion
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KozmoNaut posted:I am deeply disappoointed in FiiO for making the D03K so poo poo at 48KHz, especially since it's marketed as a DAC for TVs without analog outputs. Shame on them. I stupidly blew money on this thing https://www.amazon.com/D03K-Digital-Analog-Audio-Converter/dp/B009346RSS and it manages to be poo poo at the only thing it's meant to do. Then again it was  so I don't know what I expected.Panty Saluter posted:I have three pair of speakers and only one are actively used but I'm constantly shopping for more I just picked up a pair of Specia TC-50 at goodwill for $16  and I don't even have room at my house to bring them home at the moment. I hid them on my desk at work and I'm hoping nobody notices. 
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You've never seen a sysadmin if you think a sysadmin either wears a tie, runs, or both.
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All DACs sound the same, I've been told. Amps too.
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evobatman posted:All DACs sound the same, I've been told. Amps too. All competently designed DACs/amps, where the design wasn't screwed up by some idiot.
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Or hooked up by some moron with components that gently caress everything up
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Lol they are trying to claim i2s as proprietary
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Want the ultimate in CD playback? https://www.audionote.co.uk/cdt-six-force That's just the CD transport and its power supply. Here's the DAC, obviously also with its own power supply: https://www.audionote.co.uk/fifth-element-force Yes, everything is full of TOOBS because audiophiles think everything is better with TOOBS. Combined weight is like 126kg, because heavier = better. You may also have noticed that Audio Note does not publish their prices, because if you have to ask... By estimating based on old price lists, and the fact that they sell a $265K+ tube amp, the combined price for that setup is probably in the $250-350K region.
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KozmoNaut posted:Want the ultimate in CD playback? I'm the remote control as supplied with cheap 90s TVs 
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The remote control should be wired, to stop bit loss through the air.
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Those Spicas look interesting but they wouldn't last five minutes around my cats
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lmaoquote:Due to Audio Note (UK)'s ongoing research and development program, specifications are subject to change without notice. "you might get something in this ballpark. we don't know lol. it's hard to make consistent products"
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Hopping on the FiiO hate bandwagon. Counterpoint: I love my E10K. If it has the 48kHz problem the other stuff does I wouldn't know because I have the default format set to 44.1kHz and exclusive mode off so any 48kHz material is getting resampled by the Windows mixer anyway.
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Theris posted:any 48kHz material is getting resampled by the notoriously mediocre Windows mixer anyway. I get why it's that way, obviously it has to work on any lesser-specced machines that Windows runs on, but it's still meh at best. https://archimago.blogspot.com/2015/11/measurements-windows-10-audio-stack.html At least use the decent resampler in Foobar2000 or whichever player you're using. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Feb 26, 2019 |
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KozmoNaut posted:I get why it's that way, obviously it has to work on any lesser-specced machines that Windows runs on, but it's still meh at best. good lord, the noise and IMD on those graphs 
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polyester concept posted:lmao
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