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The reason why they feel like they need to expand is going to be interesting. If they've been servants, they've probably only been built on demand, so you'd figure there's no innate programming to self-replicate. I mean, it's being telegraphed that they're emotional dicks, but anyway.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Kaylon Primary's lines were: "We have exceeded the informational capacity of this planet. Our civilization is growing exponentially and we must now expand to other worlds." Plebs are needed.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Kaylon Primary's lines were: "We have exceeded the informational capacity of this planet. Our civilization is growing exponentially and we must now expand to other worlds." Combat Pretzel posted:The reason why they feel like they need to expand is going to be interesting. If they've been servants, they've probably only been built on demand, so you'd figure there's no innate programming to self-replicate. I mean, it's being telegraphed that they're emotional dicks, but anyway. Not having an instinct to self-replicate doesn't mean not having a reason to self-replicate. With every new scientific discovery or industrial project the kaylon decide to undertake there will be a need to either re-assign kaylon from other projects or create new ones for the task at hand. The more kaylon they have the more initiatives they can pursue. It only makes sense that they would have continued building new kaylon.
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Mar 4, 2019 14:49
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Yeah Talla really drew the short straw as far as character development goes, they suddenly lost a main character who'd had a ton of development put into her and they didn't have time to go through that all over again, all they could afford to give her was a line about Ed begging for an other Telayan in Alara's place and a short bit of dialogue about punching her previous captain. Ezri Dax? Snowglobe of Doom posted:Kaylon Primary's lines were: "We have exceeded the informational capacity of this planet. Our civilization is growing exponentially and we must now expand to other worlds." The idea here is that at some point, you literally can't build any more data storage on a planet, because things like the waste heat wind up destroying everything. But really, they're just trying to get at the idea that they need more resources, and therefore need to expand. The Kaylon are reproducing, and therefore they need more resources, and therefore, they need to expand. The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy and all that. Silly Burrito posted:Plebs are needed. Ah, that takes me back. Also, you must construct additional pylons.
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TheCenturion posted:Ezri Dax? Kind of in reverse, personality-wise It's yet to see if it was an overall trade-up like with Ezri, though 
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The Bloop posted:Kind of in reverse, personality-wise It's more a Tasha Yar situation with Worf as the replacement.
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Mar 4, 2019 16:43
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swickles posted:It's more a Tasha Yar situation with Worf as the replacement. So Talla will come into her own when she gets moved to spinoff series Remote Platform 7?
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Red posted:Talla doesn't have an actual character - she just seems to be included on a lot of major plot points, including being someone's object of desire. Talla is a confident romantic; she's a people person who is passionate about being good at her job and doesn't have time for being an awkward mess. She instantly became a friend of Grayson because she's a goddamn adult, unlike most of the people on the ship. She's arguably not a character you hinge an episode on, but they did just that with Bortus's ex and nobody else on the ship - not even if you brought Alara back - could have taken her place in that story and had it work out in the same way. She doesn't have Alara's self doubt, partially because she's just older, and partially because like she said - her family is already a bunch of military outsiders, and she knows who she is and likes who she is. Character building isn't just "here's a list of flaws." I'm sure we'll get more of her, diving into what makes her tick and giving her some conflict with someone, but she absolutely has had development. Wungus fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Mar 4, 2019 |
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Mar 4, 2019 16:55
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Whalley posted:What Agreed. Deflectors very much felt like a Talla episode, not an Alara one. It may have been rewritten for her after the switch, but they made it very distinct from how Alara would have handled things. She has her own voice and her own approach to things.
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Mar 4, 2019 17:20
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Yeah Talla is actually an improvement, even though I was originally bummed to see Alara go
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Mad Wack posted:Yeah Talla is actually an improvement, even though I was originally bummed to see Alara go  I liked Alara, but Talla seems a bit more "hardened" than she was.
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Iron Crowned posted:
Talla fits really well into the small group of actual adults on the ship; Kelly and Claire. Her part in their conversations in A Happy Refrain really helped that episode be as good as it was.
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Mad Wack posted:Yeah Talla is actually an improvement, even though I was originally bummed to see Alara go Totally agree. Alara was cool and she's a great actress and cute as a button but Talla is more interesting already
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I don't know the production order or how much warning they had that Alara's actress was leaving but they might have already had the whole season mapped out and didn't really have room to explore Talla's character much.
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All I wanted from the Alara character is her being asked to open a literal jar of pickles. That's seriously it. The one thing missing once she left
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The next episode there's going to be a literal jar of pickles that needs to be opened, and Talla will offer to do it, and Ed will be like no, it's still too soon.
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Mar 4, 2019 20:41
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Ed will ask Isaac to open a jar of pickles and he'll head-lazer the lid off
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precision posted:Ed will ask Isaac to open a jar of pickles and he'll head-lazer the lid off Bortus could bite the lid off and eat it?
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precision posted:Ed will ask Isaac to open a jar of pickles and he'll head-lazer the lid off oh man, can't wait for isaac to bust out the head lasers on away missions
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Jazerus posted:oh man, can't wait for isaac to bust out the head lasers on away missions He may have them removed or replaced with something pro-social like a soda fountain or soft serve ice cream dispenser
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The Bloop posted:He may have them removed or replaced with something pro-social like a soda fountain or soft serve ice cream dispenser That sounds like a prank that Gordon and John would pull.
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The Bloop posted:He may have them removed or replaced with something pro-social like a soda fountain or soft serve ice cream dispenser Bubble maker
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They're going to be in a life threatening situation, and relying on Isaac's head guns to save them, only to find that Gordon switched them out for a drinks dispenser as a prank.
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Issac: Do not worry, I will use my head lasers to destroy the Krill *Hot sauce squirts out, Krill screams in pain* Malloy : Oooooh man, I didn't think that prank would save our asses.
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Dietrich posted:I just loving now figured out that Clare is played by the same actress as Kassedy Yates in DS9.
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twistedmentat posted:Issac: Do not worry, I will use my head lasers to destroy the Krill
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So the Orville is now one of the very few shows where the usage of the term “head cannon” is actually correct.
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Tarquinn posted:So the Orville is now the only show where the usage of the term “head cannon” is actually correct. 
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Thanks! Also I guess Discovery too, with evolved Kelpians and the poo poo they have going on there.
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Dr. Who doesn't count because it's garbage
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Iron Crowned posted:Dr. Who doesn't count because it's garbage Head cannon shots fired
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Iron Crowned posted:Dr. Who doesn't count because it's garbage
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Whalley posted:What A “confident romantic” is, uh, a bit of a reach. She did things and succeeded. She doesn’t need to have flaws, but she should be somewhat relatable. I can’t name a single character trait for her. Saying she’s confident when she just does tasks is a bit lazy.
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Iron Crowned posted:Dr. Who doesn't count because it's garbage I mean I actually didn't know that was from Dr Who and you did, so 
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Red posted:A “confident romantic” is, uh, a bit of a reach. She did things and succeeded. She doesn’t need to have flaws, but she should be somewhat relatable. I can’t name a single character trait for her. Saying she’s confident when she just does tasks is a bit lazy. She's a romantic because for a first date with an interspecies person she chose a neutral ground of a culture neither one was familiar with, was _stupid_ charming, and wept over him instantly, getting passionate about this person she just met. These aren't accidental things that "just happened" - Seth is in love with classic hollywood romance and he chose these things for a reason. She doesn't need to be swanning around with bouquets of roses to show that she's a romantic person. She also gets involved with other people's romantic issues - see her having girl time and talking about boys, because Romance Is An Interest Of Hers. You not acknowledging personality doesn't mean there's no personality to be seen.
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Whalley posted:She's confident in what she does; she doesn't question her actions, literally her first conversation has her confidently saying "yes I hit my old captain no he didn't know it was happening yes I'd do it again because I knew it was what needed to happen." Her confidence is explicitly what separates her from Alara, it's why it was the first character trait we were shown, and since then she's repeatedly shown confidence in her actions and choices. She doesn't just 'do tasks' and I feel like you're actively looking for reasons to hate her by saying that. Strong, confident  ? in MY sci-fi?!
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The Bloop posted:I mean I actually didn't know that was from Dr Who and you did, so BBC America had a Dr. Who marathon on Christmas day this year, my dad spent all day watching it. I really don't know if it was better or worse than his standard of watching CNN all day.
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BBC America owns because it's supposed to be British shows but 99% of the time when I tune into it they're doing a marathon of either TNG or the X-Files
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Snow Cone Capone posted:BBC America owns because it's supposed to be British shows but 99% of the time when I tune into it they're doing a marathon of either TNG or the X-Files I'm surprised nobody's either created a new channel or re-branded an existing channel with "look, we're not even gonna pretend to have a theme any more, we're just gonna show you whatever poo poo we think you'll watch."
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