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Holy poo poo how the gently caress do I get that xcom game on my phone?
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i just want a regular phone without all the frou-frou
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Mar 8, 2019 17:56
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Dont Touch ME posted:Ill see if I can find a prebuilt apk somewhere nice, I'm going to kill some aliens! can't do that on iOS, apple-fail
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Mar 8, 2019 18:35
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Bonaventure posted:i just want a regular phone without all the frou-frou This is also cool, but I like having a functional computer on hand, especially one that's generally always connected to the internet.
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Mar 8, 2019 18:54
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Do iPhones still require you to have an iTunes account to install anything on the phone, and does the account still require adding a credit card in order to set it up in the first place? A few years ago my mom had me help her install some apps during a family emergency and there was no way to do so without paying an Apple tax just to set up the loving iTunes account. "Why yes, Apple, I would very much like to add a funding source to my phone account just to have the extravagant ability to install free apps."
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Mar 8, 2019 21:10
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I don’t know, I like the hardware inside the iPhones. Everything is fast as heck and even though this phone is almost 2 years old, there’s no Qualcomm gear that is any better yet. But I’m not gonna lie to you and try and tell you the designs on iPhones haven’t gotten worse since Steve died. The iPhone 6/7/8 feel like rear end to hold, and the only reason why my 10 is any improvement over the iPhone 5/SE is the upgraded guts and the OLED screen, which is nice regardless of the dumb notch. I understand why some people like the powerful customization and features of Android kit though. Unfortunately you also end up with a ton of dumb boomers and zoomers with RAM cleaners that actively spy on them while making their cheap Mediatek SoC’s overheat and poo poo. Then they complain as if it’s Android’s fault and not the fact that they bought their phone for $79 at Big Lots.
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Mar 8, 2019 23:00
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marijuanamancer posted:also i don't quite follow google getting no pass from you when you just said the browser you like is built on technology built by them. No one is forcing anyone to use Chrome. It's definitely a browser by an advertiser. but it existing has channelled money towards webkit development which benefits every browser that uses it Google is not the main developer and certainly not the creator or maintainer of WebKit. It's an open source renderer used in dozens of web browsers, email clients, etc and worked on by hundreds of developers worldwide. Like I said, they have forked WebKit and use their own Javascript engine and other in-house assorted APIs to support Chrome. Chrome uses WebCore, which renders HTML/SVG only, and the version they use is custom in-house stuff at this point and far removed from the open source release. Safari, Opera, Konqueror, and dozens of other WebKit browsers do not directly benefit from Google's work, and it's disingenuous to claim that's a fact. It's like saying Ubuntu or Fedora drives Linux's development and all other distros benefit from them or some bullshit. Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Mar 8, 2019 |
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Mar 8, 2019 23:07
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coke posted:i mean sure you only spent $200 bucks on it and if you are cool with its performance then that's great I just kinda legit don't know what people are using your phones for that requires better than say the x4's processor. As you say, it's personal preference really. Dont Touch ME posted:I dont use an iPhone for a littany of reasons, but probably the biggest is the fact that it doesn't have an OpenXCOM port. I play Tyrian on mine, it owns. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.googlecode.opentyrian&hl=en_US COMRADES fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Mar 8, 2019 |
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Mar 8, 2019 23:14
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COMRADES posted:I just kinda legit don't know what people are using your phones for that requires better than say the x4's processor. As you say, it's personal preference really. I'm working my way through all of the old Sierra point and click adventures. Just finished King's Quest, and am starting Dagger of Amon Ra.
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Mar 8, 2019 23:41
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Google is not the main developer and certainly not the creator or maintainer of WebKit. It's an open source renderer used in dozens of web browsers, email clients, etc and worked on by hundreds of developers worldwide. Like I said, they have forked WebKit and use their own Javascript engine and other in-house assorted APIs to support Chrome. Chrome uses WebCore, which renders HTML/SVG only, and the version they use is custom in-house stuff at this point and far removed from the open source release. Safari, Opera, Konqueror, and dozens of other WebKit browsers do not directly benefit from Google's work, and it's disingenuous to claim that's a fact. It's like saying Ubuntu or Fedora drives Linux's development and all other distros benefit from them or some bullshit. You are putting a lot of words into my statement that I never made. All I said is that Chrome channels money to the webkit project which is beneficial for everyone involved. Which is all true. You are extrapolating a lot from that which I never said
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Mar 8, 2019 23:43
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coke posted:That's speed on the right and power consumption in Watt and Joules on the left, here's another one post the chart thats speed/energy/$ while youre at it but honestly i dont care faster phones at this current point are good for some sort of bragging rights among some goofy internet clique somewhere im sure instead of anything practical (cited uses itt are literally loading apps that will stay open for hours by a fraction of a second faster) like how in PCs ram usage used to be optimized in the sense of using as little as possible because it was something to be considered scarce and once ram became something to be considered abundant you optimized ram usage in terms of how you could make good use of as much of it as possible phone speed surpassed what people generally want to use the phone medium for (a lot of people arent interested in phones as a serious means of gaming) and if you want people to care you need a better use case at least for practical people. for apple fans the use case is being able to say "i own the newest iphone" and before you argue in favor of iphones to me again i should tell you that youre wasting your time if tasker hasnt been released for ios. if you cant make your iphone act like a mini jarvis you might as well get yourself a mid 2000s flip phone. youre paying more for less at that point anyway gary oldmans diary fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Mar 9, 2019 |
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Mar 9, 2019 00:03
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marijuanamancer posted:You are putting a lot of words into my statement that I never made. All I said is that Chrome channels money to the webkit project which is beneficial for everyone involved. Which is all true. You are extrapolating a lot from that which I never said Please explain how Webkit is in any way beneficial other than causing dumbfuck CSS bugs between browsers What if you use an iPhone, but you use an old one with the headphone jack and you didn't pay 10000000 dollars for it but you got it for free by staying on contract for two years? 
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Mar 9, 2019 00:11
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Blistex posted:I'm working my way through all of the old Sierra point and click adventures. Just finished King's Quest, and am starting Dagger of Amon Ra. You just reminded me about Torin's Passage and I'ma play that drat game now ty Every time it gets stupid and frustrating I'll think of YOU
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Mar 9, 2019 00:12
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Also it's totally fine if your Moto X4 or whatever budget phone is more than quick enough for your needs and it's cool that a cheaper phone enough for your needs in browsing porn and Youtube videos, but I have a co-worker who returned his Moto X4 two days after picking it up and bought a Huawei phone with a faster processor because the lag in some webpage loads was noticeably annoying for him. Which is why stuff like "I bought a Samsung Jackhole S4 for $150 and it's so fast! Why would you ever spend $800 on a phone?" is goddamn dumb.
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Mar 9, 2019 01:40
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Also it's totally fine if your Moto X4 or whatever budget phone is more than quick enough for your needs and it's cool that a cheaper phone enough for your needs in browsing porn and Youtube videos, but I have a co-worker who returned his Moto X4 two days after picking it up and bought a Huawei phone with a faster processor because the lag in some webpage loads was noticeably annoying for him. Which is why stuff like "I bought a Samsung Jackhole S4 for $150 and it's so fast! Why would you ever spend $800 on a phone?" is goddamn dumb. 
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Mar 9, 2019 01:48
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DICTATOR OF FUNK posted:eight plus Chuck tingle
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im looking for the thread where we talk about paying more money because we are too technically inept to install adblock like its a brag. is this it?Cough Drop The Beat posted:Also it's totally fine if your Moto X4 or whatever budget phone is more than quick enough for your needs and it's cool that a cheaper phone enough for your needs in browsing porn and Youtube videos, but I have a co-worker who returned his Moto X4 two days after picking it up and bought a Huawei phone with a faster processor because the lag in some webpage loads was noticeably annoying for him. Which is why stuff like "I bought a Samsung Jackhole S4 for $150 and it's so fast! Why would you ever spend $800 on a phone?" is goddamn dumb. "samsung jackhole s4"
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Mar 9, 2019 01:58
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gary oldmans diary posted:ah yes. and i do enjoy the easily crushing the task of rendering html which is definitely on par with the most demanding stress tests HTML/SVG/Javascript web rendering is actually one of the most demanding tasks on any phone or desktop/laptop because the internet is insanely bad garbage these days. Like way more than most games, productivity apps, etc. It sucks hard.
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Mar 9, 2019 02:04
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theres just no getting through to that guy or there is but he mentally blocks the parts that are an offense to apple/apple enthusiasts
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Mar 9, 2019 02:08
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Yeah computers are loving dumb. Javascript, a language that has nothing to do with Java and was just cranked out in like 10 days by a guy to animate frivolous poo poo in the old Netscape browser has somehow come to be the development language of basically all modern network applications. It is such a terrible language that you don't even program in it directly anymore. You write in some derivative language bolted onto it meant to address the many terrible things about Javascript and then 'transpile' it over so your browser can run it. It's loving insane.
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Mar 9, 2019 02:09
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gary oldmans diary posted:theres just no getting through to that guy Pretty cool that I'm not vaguely arguing a pro-Apple angle or whatever and solely lamenting how riddled with impossibly bad Javascript/SVG the average website on the internet has become, but congrats on your brain worms. Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Mar 9, 2019 |
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Mar 9, 2019 02:23
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Dont Touch ME posted:I dont use an iPhone for a littany of reasons, but probably the biggest is the fact that it doesn't have an OpenXCOM port. god bless you for trying to save this thread
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Mar 9, 2019 02:25
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Pretty cool that I'm not vaguely arguing a pro-Apple angle or whatever and solely lamenting how riddled with impossibly bad Javascript/SVG the average website on the internet has become, but congrats on your brain worms. i cant even tell if this persona youre doing is real or fake but its retarded
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Mar 9, 2019 02:32
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Dont Touch ME posted:I dont use an iPhone for a littany of reasons, but probably the biggest is the fact that it doesn't have an OpenXCOM port. This seems like a good enough reason to switch to Android, tbh.
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Mar 9, 2019 02:34
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gary oldmans diary posted:you called people who said they dont need $800 phones stupid like 2 posts up while slandering a rival brand in the midst of your not knowing how or pretending not to know how to control ads and scripts on an internet that demands the highest performing cpus we can throw at it I said that people who call other people dumb for not understanding why they would own a $800 phone are stupid as hell because everyone has different needs and wants in their electronics, not that they're stupid because they don't own a $800 phone themselves. Also uh, Javascript/SVG/demanding XHTML/etc on the internet affects way more than just ads and non-essential scripts you can block with ad blockers and the like. So much more than simply that is everywhere. You're an idiot and you have no clue what you're talking about. 
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Mar 9, 2019 02:38
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yeah youre right. youre literally living in the future with your iphone. blessings of jobs be upon you for he has saved you others can only dream of using the internet on a phone. neither they nor their devices would be able to bear it
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Mar 9, 2019 02:44
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gary oldmans diary posted:yeah youre right. youre literally living in the future with your iphone. blessings of jobs be upon you for he has saved you Blah blah blah my name's gary oldmans diary and I'm a dumbass GBS troll
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Mar 9, 2019 02:58
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do the thing again where you say you need an $800 phone to browse the internet 
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gary oldmans diary posted:do the thing again where you say you need an $800 phone to browse the internet You're dumb as hell.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 9, 2019 03:01
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Since all these cheap Android phones are so amazing, sensible and practice I just think it's funny that there isn't a phone in a venn diagram of price, service, build quality and support that isn't hot garbage compared to an iPhone.
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Mar 9, 2019 03:03
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well you see the internet is so full of javascript and svg that without my current gen iphone lmao
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Also it's totally fine if your Moto X4 or whatever budget phone is more than quick enough for your needs and it's cool that a cheaper phone enough for your needs in browsing porn and Youtube videos, but I have a co-worker who returned his Moto X4 two days after picking it up and bought a Huawei phone with a faster processor because the lag in some webpage loads was noticeably annoying for him. Which is why stuff like "I bought a Samsung Jackhole S4 for $150 and it's so fast! Why would you ever spend $800 on a phone?" is goddamn dumb. It's not dumb because that poo poo can be measured with benchmarks instead of just "I feeel like it is slow." Which it isn't btw it loads everything just fine bc guess what if webpages can't load on a $200 phone then they get hosed on in the search listings How does he know it was lag because the phones processor vs just the connection? What websites even are they going to that are so loaded with scripts? How do you know he didn't just tell you that to justify switching phones in 2 days bc he felt dumb doing it? It's just "well my co-worker said x so you're an idiot!!!" Alright. COMRADES fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Mar 9, 2019 |
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Mar 9, 2019 03:04
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gary oldmans diary posted:well you see the internet is so full of javascript and svg that without my current gen iphone Every single time you repeat yourself and completely misunderstand what I was saying and put words in my mouth, you come across as that much more of a dumbass, but whatever bro. You can dig your own grave. 
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Mar 9, 2019 03:17
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COMRADES posted:You just reminded me about Torin's Passage and I'ma play that drat game now ty You're welcome.  So is there anything you can run on an Android/iPhone that even comes close to using 1/2 the specs that the new hardware has? Like are there really CPU intensive games that you can stream to your TV at like 4k? Or is some manner of crypto-mining app all there is?
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Mar 9, 2019 03:21
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this is the weirdest courtship ritual i have ever seen
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Laslow posted:I don’t know, I like the hardware inside the iPhones. Everything is fast as heck and even though this phone is almost 2 years old, there’s no Qualcomm gear that is any better yet.  the design with everything after the 5/se is garbage and it's really a shame they didn't just keep on upgrading the SE.gary oldmans diary posted:probably because im quoting the post at which point you have only posted speed charts. just a theory. nothing anyone could be sure about Cough Drop The Beat posted:Every single time you repeat yourself and completely misunderstand what I was saying and put words in my mouth, you come across as that much more of a dumbass, but whatever bro. You can dig your own grave. Much like performance on android, it's just a theory so who cares.
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coke posted:lmao ok if you see the actual measured performance and energy consumption in joules being 'a theory'. coke posted:There's nothing to really discuss anymore if someone sees actual measured performance being 'a theory'. Since you benchmark and optimize your hardware/software with those measurable criteria.
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Cock Sucker posted:Yeah computers are loving dumb. Javascript, a language that has nothing to do with Java and was just cranked out in like 10 days by a guy to animate frivolous poo poo in the old Netscape browser has somehow come to be the development language of basically all modern network applications. It is such a terrible language that you don't even program in it directly anymore. You write in some derivative language bolted onto it meant to address the many terrible things about Javascript and then 'transpile' it over so your browser can run it. It's loving insane. Even the forums with mp4 'gif', twitter and inline photo embeds are taking longer than the 9/11 thread to load. Good thing you can throw more hardware at it if you buy a specific brand/cpu. And what are you going to do? adblock the funny gifv? 
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I like JavaScript  The newer es6 styles can do a lot in not a whole lot of space. I have no desire to transpile from something else
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coke posted:A lot of 'mobile' apps are over 500MB now and it's only going to get worse.
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