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all this poo poo about meatless mondays is stupid, your actions as an individual will make no difference to climate change as long as multinational corporations and governments continue to either not give a poo poo or actively campaign for burning more carbon on the bright side I got an email from my mom saying she's been reading about our collapsing environment and she gets it now, and that she's sorry her generation destroyed the planet for mine, so that was nice
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My mother is one of the few people I know IRL willing to discuss the ashes of the future in frank and honest terms. But she's spent her entire life involuntarily far below the poverty line, and has a much different view of the world than most others in the 50-70 range.
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i can't tell if goons are intentionally obtuse about the point that "meatless mondays" is the worst of the adaptation that wealthy first worlders will have to deal with in our lifetimes or not but lol either way because not even the chud state governments believe that: The West accepts its drought-ridden future, slashes water use quote:Amid an unprecedented 19-year drought in the expansive Colorado River Basin — which supplies water to 40 million Americans — seven Western states have acknowledged that the 21st century will only grow drier as temperatures continue to rise. And that means less water in the 1,450-mile Colorado River. On Tuesday, water managers from states including California, Utah, and New Mexico announced a drought plan (formally called a Drought Contingency Plan), which cuts their water use for the next seven years — until an even more austere strategy must be adopted. if you are under 40 today you will live to see first world governments descend into full fascism to manage their own climate refugees, much less those immigrating
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BUT THE FIREFLIES
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Wakko posted:if you are under 40 today you will live to see first world governments descend into full fascism to manage their own climate refugees, much less those immigrating
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StabbinHobo posted:whatever comes after gen z is getting raised in fema trailer camps operation jade helm was real after all
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correct me if im wrong but We could probably provide the American southwest with all the water it will ever need if we 1) cut down on farming, like almond trees in California...who needs all these loving almonds? 2) built desalination plants up and down the coast powered with renewable energy but those would cost a fortune so it's easier to just tell everyone to only take 5 minute showers
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The Nastier Nate posted:correct me if im wrong but We could probably provide the American southwest with all the water it will ever need if we Desalination iirc is really energy intensive, so with current renewable energy it's not really feasible? Edit: yeah napkin math here but you'd need 224.25 square feet of solar panels operating at peak effeciency for a day to heat 35 cubic feet of water or roughly 260 gallons. So that's enough water for 520 people a day. If it's only for drinking shove me like you do has issued a correction as of 18:47 on Mar 22, 2019 |
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Mar 22, 2019 18:32
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The Nastier Nate posted:correct me if im wrong but We could probably provide the American southwest with all the water it will ever need if we it’s not even that. the US can use intensive agriculture such as covering huge swaths of land in greenhouse and even with a miserly amount of water produce more than enough food. of course that requires a supply of labor that you can exploit in almost slave like conditions. I’m not sure where you could get that in Arizona or California tho.  probably a good canary in the coal mine will be when the government starts eating away at labor laws and OSHA.
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Son of Rodney posted:I really have to change my av one of these days since I didn't really know who Rodney dangerfield was before people started commenting on it. I just found the picture funny as it's super ridiculous. he was in movies with frank sinatra an he dropped a rap album* *standup disc with 1 silly rap song on it
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Torpor posted:probably a good canary in the coal mine will be when the government starts eating away at labor laws and OSHA. so like 40 years ago, then?
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but famous opera singer mike rowe told me to shutup and eat poo poo while corporate america dismantles osha
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Mar 22, 2019 18:44
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Can't wait till stillsuits are all the rage.
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The Nastier Nate posted:correct me if im wrong but We could probably provide the American southwest with all the water it will ever need if we Arizona's groundwater is all being sucked out of the ground for foreign agriculture corps to grow nuts and alfalfa for export specifically because arizona's libertarian dipshits refuse to put any regulations on groundwater use, there was an article a while ago from some small town desert people trying to get any water conservation laws in place at all and having the local dale gribbles assault them in public for it
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Wakko posted:if you are under 40 today you will live to see first world governments descend into full fascism to manage their own climate refugees, much less those immigrating nah, if you're under 40 you will live to see first world government outright fail and society collapse
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farmers in the midwest face decades of recovery as flooding strips away crucial soil quote:It’s not even just the top layer of soil that’s being ripped up and washed away. Where the floodwaters have receded, huge blocks of soil have been gouged away. The weight of the water has also compacted soil in some locations, while others are covered in sand and silt that’s been swept up by engorged rivers, neither of which is as nutrient-rich or structured as the soil that supports the wheat, soybean, and corn crops. whelp
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It's funny as poo poo to watch people freak the gently caress out when someone suggests that their friends having a kid is wrong, just people falling all over themselves to call them racist imperialist fat goons. Project much
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Lokar posted:farmers in the midwest face decades of recovery as flooding strips away crucial soil lol "decades"
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Mar 22, 2019 19:11
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so much for 60 years worth of harvests remaining
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I'm not gonna tell other people not to have kids, not having kids isn't a climate mitigation strategy because we're all doomed anyway with the current population and current levels of consumption so what's a few more billion people? But I personally don't want to have kids because I don't want to watch the person/people I love and care for most in the world live in a horrible disintegrating hellworld of famines, disasters, and fascism.
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Lokar posted:farmers in the midwest face decades of recovery as flooding strips away crucial soil don't most of the crops grown there go towards ethanol and feeding livestock?
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dream9!bed!! posted:It's funny as poo poo to watch people freak the gently caress out when someone suggests that their friends having a kid is wrong, just people falling all over themselves to call them racist imperialist fat goons. Project much the only moral way to have a family in 2019 is through adoption
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dream9!bed!! posted:It's funny as poo poo to watch people freak the gently caress out when someone suggests that their friends having a kid is wrong, just people falling all over themselves to call them racist imperialist fat goons. Project much The anti-kid having goons aren't racist, they're just making the understandable but false assumption that everyone in the future will necessarily hate being alive as much as they do now.
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General Dog posted:The anti-kid having goons aren't racist, they're just making the understandable but false assumption that everyone in the future will necessarily hate being alive as much as they do now. hard to hate being alive when we'll all be dead
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General Dog posted:The anti-kid having goons aren't racist, they're just making the understandable but false assumption that everyone in the future will necessarily hate being alive as much as they do now. So your theory is that they'll actually like living under fascist and participating in resource wars? Again, it's not that not having a kid will save the planet. It's about taking a soul that exists in the ether and experiences no pain, and placing them in the Thunderdome for very bad, selfish reasons
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studies are unfortunately quite clear that levels of happiness are somewhat inherent to the person, and circumstance, outside of real extremes, don't matter so, yeah, even if things go really properly to poo poo a roughly equivalent fraction of humanity will be happy cactus farmers or whatever turns out to be workable
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dream9!bed!! posted:So your theory is that they'll actually like living under fascist and participating in resource wars? Oh word, like there there are a bunch of potential persons just chilling w/God in Heaven waiting to be conceived? Is that a Jehovah's Witness thing, I can't remember.
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dream9!bed!! posted:So your theory is that they'll actually like living under fascist and participating in resource wars? Point to your soul. you can't there is no soul except the music
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May I refer you godless folk to the documentary Bart Sells His Soul
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:studies are unfortunately quite clear that levels of happiness are somewhat inherent to the person, and circumstance, outside of real extremes, don't matter source required
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the pro baby lobby is absolutely disgusting
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If you legally get a gun you also need to be sterilized. Commit to either creating life or destroying it
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Hell yeah, red speedos for EVERYONE! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he613E96E3E
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wood caribou extinct in the lower 48 https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2019/03/22/americas-reindeer-have-quietly-gone-extinct-lower/?utm_term=.b2d944959b96
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vyelkin posted:I'm not gonna tell other people not to have kids, not having kids isn't a climate mitigation strategy because we're all doomed anyway with the current population and current levels of consumption so what's a few more billion people? otoh we could very reasonably put a cap on it. I just learned the governor of Kentucky has 9 kids and that's loving bonkers, I think like a limit of 4 is reasonable. We have an obvious solution right in front of us to bringing down consumption levels to a reasonable number in only a couple of generations but no one wants to do it. Everyone has to be gay now.
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The Nastier Nate posted:otoh we could very reasonably put a cap on it. I just learned the governor of Kentucky has 9 kids and that's loving bonkers, I think like a limit of 4 is reasonable. This is just a guess, but I don't think the number of people having 5+ kids in the western world is high enough that it's making much difference. As low as birth rates are already, I'd think the limit would have to be like two to make much difference.
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Or just asexual. I ain't ending my run and catching some loving gonorrhea or herpes of the mouth or something.
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The Unnamed One posted:Hell yeah, red speedos for EVERYONE! I knew it was going to be that lol Have a few joints & a couple drinks, it's the best film ever 
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can we get a little countdown to doom timer going? maybe put it in the thread title? im an impatient and obsessive dier.
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shove me like you do posted:Desalination iirc is really energy intensive, so with current renewable energy it's not really feasible? Not to mention that all the salt has to go somewhere and it's great at polluting the ocean and pretty much everywhere else you put it. https://www.wired.com/story/desalination-is-booming-but-what-about-all-that-toxic-brine/ https://m.phys.org/news/2019-01-toxic-brine-desalination.html
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