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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

mandatory lesbian posted:

Sure but the people we're talking about are the people who get mad when boobs get toned down or whatever, not censorship that actually matters like LGBT erasure

Do they really? Ever asked about Card Captor Sakura?

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Rudoku
Jun 15, 2003

Damn I need a drink...


Ghost Leviathan posted:

Do they really? Ever asked about Card Captor Sakura?

Or OG Sailor Moon?

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Rudoku posted:

Or OG Sailor Moon?

They're COUSINS.

Rudoku
Jun 15, 2003

Damn I need a drink...


Kurieg posted:

They're COUSINS.

That too. I was talking about Zephrite and Kunzite/Malachite.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Do they really? Ever asked about Card Captor Sakura?

Didn't the Cardcaptor Sakura dub actually erase the straight romance as well, as part of their attempt to turn it into a shonen series?

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Silver2195 posted:

Didn't the Cardcaptor Sakura dub actually erase the straight romance as well, as part of their attempt to turn it into a shonen series?

Basically, I haven’t seen it personally but from what I understand they hacked the show up so much that a lot of fans generally consider the Cardcaptor dub to be a separate series entirely.

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll

A Sometimes Food posted:

Pokemon names are meant to be like specific names for animals/plants. Leaving them untranslated would be like a translation calling dogs inu or cats neko or other poo poo like that. That's my take.

The anime also has Sparky the Pikachu and Zippo the Charmander, though.

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe

Larryb posted:

Basically, I haven’t seen it personally but from what I understand they hacked the show up so much that a lot of fans generally consider the Cardcaptor dub to be a separate series entirely.

I liked the dub when I was a kid, but I like the original much more as an adult. I think you can show the original to American kids nowadays (excluding the weird teacher student romance between a fourth grader and her teacher.)

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Violet_Sky posted:

I liked the dub when I was a kid, but I like the original much more as an adult. I think you can show the original to American kids nowadays (excluding the weird teacher student romance between a fourth grader and her teacher.)

Didn’t the show eventually get a second dub later on that was a bit more accurate to the source?

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Larryb posted:

Didn’t the show eventually get a second dub later on that was a bit more accurate to the source?

I believe so.

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014

Rudoku posted:

That too. I was talking about Zephrite and Kunzite/Malachite.

Who's Zephrite?

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

BattleCattle posted:

Who's Zephrite?

That's the Japanese name for Altaria, which you'd know if everything was translated correctly.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

BattleCattle posted:

Who's Zephrite?

Nobody, they meant Nephrite (though unlike Uranus/Neptune, that particular relationship only existed in the 90's Sailor Moon anime).

Larryb fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Apr 5, 2019

Rudoku
Jun 15, 2003

Damn I need a drink...


Larryb posted:

Nobody, they meant Nephrite (though unlike Uranus/Neptune, that particular relationship only existed in the 90's Sailor Moon anime).

Nah I memory holed Zoicite. I haven't watched that in years.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

less laughter posted:

Mesprit represents Emotion (Dawn has them)
Uxie represents Knowledge (Brock is a medical doctor)
Azelf represents Willpower (Ash is very stubborn and tenacious)
whoa when did Brock become a doctor (haven't watched the show in like 20 years but that seems wild)

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



indigi posted:

whoa when did Brock become a doctor (haven't watched the show in like 20 years but that seems wild)

The penultimate episode of the Diamond/Pearl series.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/DP190

It just...kind of comes out of nowhere. He's just like 'welp gonna go be a doctor now seeya!' and takes off.

It comes back up during the Black/White series but I think in the Sun/Moon series they've just dropped it completely? Or at least I haven't seen it mentioned there.

Vandar fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Apr 6, 2019

Waterfall of Salt
May 14, 2013

Ow, my eye

Vandar posted:


It just...kind of comes out of nowhere. He's just like 'welp gonna go be a doctor now seeya!' and takes off.
[...]
I think in the Sun/Moon series they've just dropped it completely?

There's been hints of this happening since at least Gen 2, and it ramps up in DP, especially due to the happiny he raises, though him actually leaving is sudden.

Sun/moon still brings it up and it's how Brock is introduced at first when they're going to Kanto

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll


I will 5ever be peeved that this gal isn't Dragon/Steel

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

less laughter posted:

The anime also has Sparky the Pikachu and Zippo the Charmander, though.

...uh I think you misunderstood. I meant that the pokemon names like pikachu are like the names of animals like cat or dog. Sparky and Zippo are given names like Fido or Mr Whiskers.

Not using the localised version of pikachu or charmander would be like calling dogs inu. It's weird.

Nodosaur
Dec 23, 2014

Violet_Sky posted:

I blame 4kids for making nerds whine about CENSORSHIP IN MUH ANIMES over some localizations.

censorship was never a part of that discussion

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014

Huh, when I saw new posts, I just automatically assumed there were new things being said, my bad.

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

BattleCattle posted:

Huh, when I saw new posts, I just automatically assumed there were new things being said, my bad.

Lillie's getting a Megearna, Lana's getting a Kyogre, and everyone and their mother can enter the Alolan League without doing anything important like completing trials or having character development

The fandom's on fire and it's amazing

Nodosaur
Dec 23, 2014

The only SM character I’d say hasn’t gotten... hm.

It seems they all have.

The fandom can sit and spin.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Ash is going to win the Alolan League

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Electric Phantasm posted:

Ash is going to win the Alolan League

He's certainty due for one at any rate (if I recall correctly the only tournaments he's ever won so far were the Orange Islands and Battle Frontier).

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Electric Phantasm posted:

Ash is going to win the Alolan League

I want him to win the League, then lose the title defense

Larryb posted:

He's certainty due for one at any rate (if I recall correctly the only tournaments he's ever won so far were the Orange Islands and Battle Frontier).

Neither of which are canon leagues and therefore open to be beaten by Ash, thankfully
Not like anything from them has stuck, but hey, it's nice to see SOME victories under his belt

Flopsy
Mar 4, 2013

Vinylshadow posted:

Lillie's getting a Megearna, Lana's getting a Kyogre, and everyone and their mother can enter the Alolan League without doing anything important like completing trials or having character development

The fandom's on fire and it's amazing

....wait what happened?

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

Flopsy posted:

....wait what happened?

Lana's making poo poo up again, I imagine

Nodosaur
Dec 23, 2014

It's been two decades and I still don't understand the notion that Battle Frontier and Orange League "don't count".

There's no logic to it. It's not even a "they're not in the games" thing cuz the the BF is in the games.

Winning over a team of 10 experienced trainers and being recognized as worthy of joining their ranks apparently matters less than winning against a bracket of people who are usually gym challengers themselves? Why? They're clearly a cut above gym leaders. It's just a forced rationalization to keep from recognizing the character's genuine accomplishment.

Nodosaur fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Apr 6, 2019

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Vinylshadow posted:

Lana's getting a Kyogre
and it's amazing

If her dad had just done the job himself she wouldn't have had to step in

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Electric Phantasm posted:

Ash is going to win the Alolan League

Only because his dad, who built the whole drat stadium for Ash, will job and eat the pin for Ash.

Nodosaur
Dec 23, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmFGUrQ95d4

heh, amusing. They got Lisa Ortiz to play Jessie-as-Lina-Inverse during the scene where she references Hayashibara's other roles in the play episode.

Zuzie
Jun 30, 2005

I got this for a Ratatta on GTS.


I doubt Lana's going to actually have a Kyorge... I mean where the hell is she supposed to keep it and have it be a relevant character? It'll be like Misty's Horsea.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

If Lana gets a Kyogre then Kiawe should get Groudon.

Nodosaur
Dec 23, 2014

Lana can do anything she sets her mind to

Kiawe meanwhile can only succeed at something when it's comedic for him to do so or when it regards protecting his family

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Lana lives in the coast, Kyogre has room to chill.

Nodosaur
Dec 23, 2014

also Kiawe would use Groudon to expand his family's farmland and that's property fraud

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Nodosaur posted:

It's been two decades and I still don't understand the notion that Battle Frontier and Orange League "don't count".

There's no logic to it. It's not even a "they're not in the games" thing cuz the the BF is in the games.

Winning over a team of 10 experienced trainers and being recognized as worthy of joining their ranks apparently matters less than winning against a bracket of people who are usually gym challengers themselves? Why? They're clearly a cut above gym leaders. It's just a forced rationalization to keep from recognizing the character's genuine accomplishment.

Fair point re: Battle Frontier, but winning the Orange League was really not a very impressive accomplishment; it was just 4 Gym Leaders and an Elite One, with no tournament or Champion. Danny's challenge, at least, was actually difficult, and Cissy's challenge was rather unfairly specialized to the point where you basically have to be a Water-type specialist to win, but it's still not really comparable to a full league.

Nodosaur
Dec 23, 2014

The "full league's" contestants have included a guy using a Bellsprout and a girl with a Quilava. Ash himself entered multiple tournaments with unevolved Pokemon.

The difference isn't as stark as you're making it out to be.

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Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Nodosaur posted:

The "full league's" contestants have included a guy using a Bellsprout and a girl with a Quilava. Ash himself entered multiple tournaments with unevolved Pokemon.

The difference isn't as stark as you're making it out to be.

You mean a girl with a Bellsprout. And I think Jeanette's Bellsprout is supposed to be one of those Pokemon that somehow gets stronger by choosing not to evolve, like Ash's Pikachu and Squirtle.

Actually, the Bellsprout line in the anime seems to become less useful the more it evolves, to the point where Jessie trading James's Victreebell away for a Weepinbell was portrayed as a harsh but sensible decision, which only turned out badly because the Weepinbell evolved into another Victreebell.

Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Apr 7, 2019

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