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Gnome de plume posted:I thought this was going to be Auralnauts-style shenanigans Hahahahahahahahahahaha Yes Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Krankenstyle posted:dang yall can talk a lot about nothing That's the definition of a thread for discussing trailers ----------------
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I really want to know who, exactly, was clamoring for a Lady and the Tramp remake. I saw a post somewhere the other day which was wondering if part of the reason for all these "live action" remakes was a way for Disney to renew their copyrights over their older stuff
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Apr 13, 2019 05:43
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There is no action that Disney takes that isn't meant to gently caress around with copyright law in their favor.
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Spikeguy posted:I'm getting the feeling that perhaps the legend of Skywalker is going to become synonymous with Jedi and possibly replace the name. I'm all for more of Rey kicking rear end. I hope it's either that, or Luke's ghost/Leia at one point tells her she's a Skywalker, but means it in the sense that they consider her part of their family now.
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Gnome de plume posted:I thought this was going to be Auralnauts-style shenanigans Yes, it also features a rendition of Blitzkrieg Bop. And nothing else. They had a bad idea and they couldn't even commit to it.
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davidspackage posted:I hope it's either that, or Luke's ghost/Leia at one point tells her she's a Skywalker, but means it in the sense that they consider her part of their family now. I'm half expecting a counterspell from JJ cancelling out Kylo Ren's story about her parents being nobodies. Some bad guy saying "is that what he told you? No, I am your parents!" Because, you know, no originality.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I saw a post somewhere the other day which was wondering if part of the reason for all these "live action" remakes was a way for Disney to renew their copyrights over their older stuff Copryight protects specific works only, you can't "update" it by releasing a newer version. Elements unique to the new live-action Dumbo would be protected, but the original film will still enter public domain in 2036. It's similar to how Frankenstein the book is no longer protected and can thus be adapted by anyone, but if you were to make a monster that looks like the Karloff one, you'd infringe on Universal's rights.
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davidspackage posted:I hope it's either that, or Luke's ghost/Leia at one point tells her she's a Skywalker, but means it in the sense that they consider her part of their family now. I'm wondering, not just because of the title but after watching TLJ again, if Luke will appear to Ren and bring Anakin with him.
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Lobok posted:I'm wondering, not just because of the title but after watching TLJ again, if Luke will appear to Ren and bring Anakin with him. Near the end of the film, Ren will just be surrounded by force ghosts. "Alright now listen up because your old uncle Qui-gonn also wants to tell you what a dick you're being."
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teagone posted:Ehh, I wanted to really like Valerian, but DeHaan and Delevinge ruined it for me. Pratt and Lawrence fit those character tropes better imo. Whatever you think of DeHaan and Delevinge (they were perfectly cast, btw), the lethal combo of Pratt and Lawrence would have poo poo all over a perfectly good movie. Snowglobe of Doom posted:I saw a post somewhere the other day which was wondering if part of the reason for all these "live action" remakes was a way for Disney to renew their copyrights over their older stuff Wondering? It's blatantly what they're doing. 100% of their business is milking copyrights for all they're worth, you can see this especially in the way their tentpole business is set up on a schedule to just have a big hit every quarter like clockwork.
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davidspackage posted:Near the end of the film, Ren will just be surrounded by force ghosts. Hm, not sure if they're going to have Liam Neeson appear. "After Darth Maul killed me I went out for a walk in Force Heaven looking for anyone with red skin that I could beat the hell out of."
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:
Yeah but that doesn't have anything to do with renewing copyright. They're just trying to keep the IP "fresh" for the new generation—a remake doesn't affect the copyright status of the original.
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feedmyleg posted:Yeah but that doesn't have anything to do with renewing copyright. They're just trying to keep the IP "fresh" for the new generation—a remake doesn't affect the copyright status of the original. Part of the premise of intellectual property is keeping it out of the public domain. True enough that it's not renewing the copyright but asserting ownership is what's important, especially because of the dubious "ownership" of centuries old fables and fairy tales.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Whatever you think of DeHaan and Delevinge (they were perfectly cast, btw), the lethal combo of Pratt and Lawrence would have poo poo all over a perfectly good movie. I'm not familiar with the source material for Valerian, so maybe you're right. I wasn't convinced that either of them were a good choice for the kind of characters they were playing in the movie, and that caused me to check out after the first action scene involving them. Just didn't feel right to me  DeHaan and Delevinge in Passengers would have been way better though, easily. Script would still need some work, but same thing applied in that movie for me: Pratt and Lawrence just didn't feel right in those roles.
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I liked that they got a creepy weird looking dude to play the space action man. I also just like DeHaan in general and find Chris Pratt to be off-putting in basically everything outside of Parks & Rec. Actually, a fair amount of Parks & Rec too now that I'm thinking about it.
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I like DeHaan too. I just didn't like him as action man in space.
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I'm just waiting for Pratt to star in a movie about a man who builds an FTL spaceship to find Jesus.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Part of the premise of intellectual property is keeping it out of the public domain. True enough that it's not renewing the copyright but asserting ownership is what's important, especially because of the dubious "ownership" of centuries old fables and fairy tales. Also in producing versions that become so overwhelmingly popular that they sit atop the throne of public consciousness as the "definitive" or "timelessly classic" versions and make it harder for others to compete with anything based on the public domain original. And you can rest assured that if Mickey ever does enter the public domain it will only be as the precise depiction from "Steamboat Willie", and Disney's lawyers will be watching any independent productions like a murder of ravenous crows for the slightest sign of creative license exercised beyond that singular source. Same with WB and Superman vis-a-vis Action Comics #1.
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McSpanky posted:Also in producing versions that become so overwhelmingly popular that they sit atop the throne of public consciousness as the "definitive" or "timelessly classic" versions and make it harder for others to compete with anything based on the public domain original. And you can rest assured that if Mickey ever does enter the public domain it will only be as the precise depiction from "Steamboat Willie", and Disney's lawyers will be watching any independent productions like a murder of ravenous crows for the slightest sign of creative license exercised beyond that singular source. Same with WB and Superman vis-a-vis Action Comics #1. So doesn't that mean that Steamboat Willie's PD debut + 20 years mean that the classic version of Mickey will be in the Public Domain?
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It's up for PD sometime in the next couple years, yeah. It's very likely that it'll actually get PD status at this point because Disney didn't lobby for another extension last year, so a bunch of works just entered the public domain for the first time in decades. Nothing will change though because they still have all the trademarks which means it'll be so difficult to legally make money off of it that you might as well just make a bootleg. But if any of us were smart we'd be writing a Great Gatsby sequel right about now—that's up in 2020.
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McSpanky posted:And you can rest assured that if Mickey ever does enter the public domain it will only be as the precise depiction from "Steamboat Willie", and Disney's lawyers will be watching any independent productions like a murder of ravenous crows for the slightest sign of creative license exercised beyond that singular source. Same with WB and Superman vis-a-vis Action Comics #1. I feel like this is both accurate, and not as big of an issue as you'd think. You can actually make a timeline of when different elements of an "ongoing" IP like that will become public domain. (This is, of course, assuming the strictest possible interpretations, as Disney likely will.) Mickey Mouse, for example: 2023 - original design Mickey (without gloves and with dot eyes); black-and-white Minnie and Pete; unnamed black-and-white Clarabelle Cow 2024 - Mickey's gloves, eyes, voice, theme music ("Minnie's Yoo Hoo"); Horace Horsecollar 2025 - Minnie's voice; Clarabelle Cow's name; B&W Pluto (unnamed, prototype design) 2026 - B&W Pluto (named, recognizable design) 2027 - B&W Goofy (unnamed, "Dippy Dawg" design) 2029 - B&W Donald Duck, Goofy (named, recognizable design), Clara Cluck 2030 - classic color designs for all of the above characters Basically anyone who wants to gently caress with Mickey Mouse stuff just has to wait 7 more years past Steamboat Willie entering the public domain, and then they'll have more or less the whole toybox to play with, as long as they're willing to stick to "classic" depictions of the character and not modern ones (for example, if you have Mickey as a fantasy king who fights battles with a big key-shaped sword, the lawyers will probably hurt you).
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I feel like this is both accurate, and not as big of an issue as you'd think. You can actually make a timeline of when different elements of an "ongoing" IP like that will become public domain. (This is, of course, assuming the strictest possible interpretations, as Disney likely will.) for a current example of this, look at the ongoing copyright war between the various factions who want to own the rights to Friday the 13th. The guy who wrote the first movie owns the rights to the name and Jason Voorhees as he is in that movie, but the Jason we're all familiar with originated in a different movie, and as it turns out, the people who created that one are a bunch of dicks. DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Apr 14, 2019 |
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DC Murderverse posted:for a current example of this, look at the ongoing copyright war between the various factions who want to own the rights to Friday the 13th. The guy who wrote the first movie owns the rights to the name and Jason Voorhees as he is in that movie, but the Jason we're all familiar with originated in a different movie, and as it turns out, the people who created that one are a bunch of dicks. uhhhhh no, they actually have a perfectly valid argument, that guy didn't actually create anything about Jason beyond the name and the vague idea of him being a deformed drowned kid. everything we "know" about Jason comes from stuff Horror, Inc. has the rights to legitimately. he basically wrote one draft of the original and is now deciding that that entitles him to the rest of the series, and they're pretty well justified in telling him to eat poo poo.
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IIRC there's also some contention as to how much of that original script he even came up with and how much of it was dictated by a producer.
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If anything, the rights to Friday the 13th should belong to Mario Bava for making A Bay of Blood. 
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muscles like this! posted:IIRC there's also some contention as to how much of that original script he even came up with and how much of it was dictated by a producer. afaik it's only confirmed that he wrote a single draft that may or may not have been used as a direct basis for the shooting script (with signs pointing to "kinda-sorta"), and... like... yeah, he did come up with the idea of Jason being Pamela Voorhees' son who drowned but literally everything else about the character, up to and including Jason actually being alive and coming back to kill people, is not from his brain and is from stuff Horror, Inc legit has. Jason Voorhees as a character belongs maybe 5% to this guy, being extremely charitable.
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New Netflix horror: The Perfection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q57D6kF5B1k
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Fat Russell Crowe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKKnktgx6Pc
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Playmovil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgyP9GG9Ecw
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That looks terrible. Leaving aside Playmobil is not as ubiquitous as Lego, it's like they looked at everything that made the Lego movies work and then did the exact opposite.
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One final trailer for Dark Phoenix, the last Xman movie in the Fox Universe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azvR__GRQic
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Chucky trailer is out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ABetf4oVao While we only here two words, Hamil sounds great as Chucky. Looks like it is going to be gory too.
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Looks like hanging out with The Family thought these guys a thing or two. Namely about family and also NOS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ7PAyCDwEg
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Chucky trailer is out lol this looks so stupid
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The MSJ posted:Looks like hanging out with The Family thought these guys a thing or two. Namely about family and also NOS. Yep. Gonna see this. It looks like the perfect  movie for me.
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The MSJ posted:Looks like hanging out with The Family thought these guys a thing or two. Namely about family and also NOS. This looks great, and I know plot doesn't matter for a movie like this, but holy poo poo this trailer shows the whole movie beat for beat. Still gonna see it, looks like tons of fun.
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