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Ayn Randi
Mar 12, 2009


Grimey Drawer
"in just a few years old conservatives are going to die off and the progressive youth will inherit the world" said every generation since antiquity, wrongly

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KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Moridin920 posted:

I lust to pillage those types

When I am a raider, of course

Effort post on social order post-Full Mad Max All States Go collapse:

Raiders of that sort are going to get murked fairly quickly.

Apache-style subsistence raiders that aim to never take more than absolutely needed and live off the land the rest of the time will fare better. The War Boy raiders won't really be "raiders" so much as slavers and other sorts who exist because of hierarchical new small states that form around newly enclosed resources, protected by monopoly on force and the very same enclosure of resources, say, water. So like, basically slave-hunter gangs that exist because The Citadel gives some water and guzzoline in exchange for slaves or serving as middlemen in trade or as mercenaries for the sedentary states. These groups may or may not be sedentary. The Vikings are one analogue. Pastoralists and hunter-gatherer-pastoralists may also form in the very few areas amenable to it along with some hunter-gatherer-horticulturists and maybe a few true hunter-gatherer groups. They'll have varying hierarchies, from full anarchic to loosely hierarchical but not states. Think the Diné, Yavapai and Bedouin. You may also get some hierarchical states that are pastoral and have mobile capitals, like the Mongols and Buganda.

Roving bands of raider warriors will get wiped out by all of the above in short order because they'll be a threat to survival.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I've watched that "SING BROTHER HECKLER, SING BROTHER KOCH!" clip like 5x today already

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

children of men is the optimistic future because they had suicide pills

Crunchy Black
Oct 24, 2017

by Athanatos

Xaris posted:

this, but unironically

i always thought i was born at a lovely time, not forward enough in time to have cool body-augmentation and brain hacking and brain matrix downloads n poo poo living in a cool megacity complex one, but too far to have been boring under prospering economics where i could own property or w/e.

now i realize i was born at the right time. how many people can claim to be able to witness both peak of civilization (90s) and then followed by the death of a planet? front row seats too baby, loving hell yeah. gen z might have a little better vantage point but they were born a bit too late and always into a lovely world of hell, we at least had a few moments of shining optimism that they never had.

:hmmyes:


Rime posted:

No, not really. They have high paying jobs, large trucks, and enjoy things like buying guns and trophy hunting. They drop the N word like a hippie says "maaan". They loving love Donald "Our planet is freezing" Trump, and probably served in the military at some point. They unironically share fascist content on Facebook, and their friends like it. They range from 24 to 34 years old, in my experience.

Seriously, you guys don't realize how many of your neighbours loving love the kind of world republicans dream about, and I'm talking about Canadians here.


e: I have a friend who is in med school and is 1000% insulated from "racial issues" other than "those wacky asians and indians!!!!" and he does not understand the CHUD problem so thank you for succinctly putting this. So goddamn frustrating that he seriously thinks the populous isn't political. gently caress YES THEY ARE BECAUSE THEY HATE YOU AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T HATE BROWN PEOPLE ugh.

Crunchy Black has issued a correction as of 09:20 on May 17, 2019

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

Ayn Randi posted:

"in just a few years old conservatives are going to die off and the progressive youth will inherit the world" said every generation since antiquity, wrongly

Someone posted some thoughts on the Alabama abortion that ended, "Well on the bright side this kind of poo poo is how revolutions start."

Hahah, oh buddy, oh my man, lol

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
The funny thing about Children of Men is the book is mush about how children give life meaning. The lovable Michael Caine character is instead an edgy childfree strawman openly saying he's glad the world is dying because children make too much noise.

Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe
It's all making me think I need to read more J.G Ballard.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Cheese under dies for within your shake so good, to add gel ship bit what has earth done forming lately?

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

KiteAuraan posted:

Effort post on social order post-Full Mad Max All States Go collapse:

Raiders of that sort are going to get murked fairly quickly.

Apache-style subsistence raiders that aim to never take more than absolutely needed and live off the land the rest of the time will fare better. The War Boy raiders won't really be "raiders" so much as slavers and other sorts who exist because of hierarchical new small states that form around newly enclosed resources, protected by monopoly on force and the very same enclosure of resources, say, water. So like, basically slave-hunter gangs that exist because The Citadel gives some water and guzzoline in exchange for slaves or serving as middlemen in trade or as mercenaries for the sedentary states. These groups may or may not be sedentary. The Vikings are one analogue. Pastoralists and hunter-gatherer-pastoralists may also form in the very few areas amenable to it along with some hunter-gatherer-horticulturists and maybe a few true hunter-gatherer groups. They'll have varying hierarchies, from full anarchic to loosely hierarchical but not states. Think the Diné, Yavapai and Bedouin. You may also get some hierarchical states that are pastoral and have mobile capitals, like the Mongols and Buganda.

Roving bands of raider warriors will get wiped out by all of the above in short order because they'll be a threat to survival.

sure will be fun to test the roving bandit hypothesis

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Addamere posted:

Cheese under dies for within your shake so good, to add gel ship bit what has earth done forming lately?

:thunk:

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

KiteAuraan posted:

Effort post on social order post-Full Mad Max All States Go collapse:

Raiders of that sort are going to get murked fairly quickly.

Apache-style subsistence raiders that aim to never take more than absolutely needed and live off the land the rest of the time will fare better. The War Boy raiders won't really be "raiders" so much as slavers and other sorts who exist because of hierarchical new small states that form around newly enclosed resources, protected by monopoly on force and the very same enclosure of resources, say, water. So like, basically slave-hunter gangs that exist because The Citadel gives some water and guzzoline in exchange for slaves or serving as middlemen in trade or as mercenaries for the sedentary states. These groups may or may not be sedentary. The Vikings are one analogue. Pastoralists and hunter-gatherer-pastoralists may also form in the very few areas amenable to it along with some hunter-gatherer-horticulturists and maybe a few true hunter-gatherer groups. They'll have varying hierarchies, from full anarchic to loosely hierarchical but not states. Think the Diné, Yavapai and Bedouin. You may also get some hierarchical states that are pastoral and have mobile capitals, like the Mongols and Buganda.

Roving bands of raider warriors will get wiped out by all of the above in short order because they'll be a threat to survival.

what if it is more of like a death cult that just slash and burns everything we come across in the name of Poseidon?

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Moridin920 posted:

what if it is more of like a death cult that just slash and burns everything we come across in the name of Poseidon?

Isn't that pretty much how we got in this mess?

Gareth Gobulcoque
Jan 10, 2008



in for a penny in for pound

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Trainee PornStar posted:

Isn't that pretty much how we got in this mess?

I'm just here finishing the job and cleansing the Earth for Poseidon okay?

I'm like Ulysses from NV just launching nukes at everyone cuz gently caress em

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Moridin920 posted:

I'm just here finishing the job and cleansing the Earth for Poseidon okay?

I'm like Ulysses from NV just launching nukes at everyone cuz gently caress em

Not criticising, at this point I guess why not lol

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

At some point we should probably get serious about organizing our raiding group

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


you mayochups

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
it's not just climate change: air pollution is damaging every organ in our bodies.

choice quote:

quote:

Prof Dean Schraufnagel, at the University of Illinois at Chicago and who led the reviews, said: “I wouldn’t be surprised if almost every organ was affected. If something is missing [from the review] it is probably because there was no research yet.”

Plumps
Apr 21, 2010

CODChimera posted:

At some point we should probably get serious about organizing our raiding group

i need engineers with experience in building skull mounds and/or bone palaces.

human bones only. no time wasters

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

Plumps posted:

i need engineers with experience in building skull mounds and/or bone palaces.

human bones only. no time wasters

you get one engineer, one medic and 3 snipers

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
smh at the complete lack of shamans in this raid

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

CODChimera posted:

you get one engineer, one medic and 3 snipers

this would be ok if the snipers can hit the broad side of a barn


the snipers can't hit the broadside of a barn

Bass Concert Hall
May 9, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
This is a pretty good short story from Bacigalupi on what the next few decades might look like.

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day
Kickass end.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

this is good

cancelope
Sep 23, 2010

The cops want to search the train

*jokes*:

quote:

Nona was a psychiatrist who specialized in trauma. The state paid her to prescribe antidepressants and anti-anxiety meds to refugees. “Benzos are cheap,” she joked. “Hospital beds are expensive. And the heat makes everyone crazy.”

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY
i hope the the children of republicans are cognizant enough to hate their parents when they grow up

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

baw posted:

i hope the the children of republicans are cognizant enough to hate their parents when they grow up
the libs were just too partisan and divisive and had to be owned

the cost was high

but their civic duty was done

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
neat

Some people don't lke Bacigalupi, which is fine, but I rather liked his book The Water Knife as a post-climate change look at the southwest area. Basically texas and arizona reduced to dust with red cross water supplies and california deploying national guard/building a wall to keep the 'zonies out and tensions arising out of diminishing water and water rights. It's still highly fictionized and some of it was not great, but there's not a whole lot of doomsday fictional CC books.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

Thanks for sharing this.

Ferdinand Bardamu
Apr 30, 2013
84 degrees F this weekend in northern Russia lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBObh_XC1A4

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
:w00t:

Telephones
Apr 28, 2013
dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed

Dean of Swing
Feb 22, 2012
How bad should we expect to boil this summer?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Dean of Swing posted:

How bad should we expect to boil this summer?

my predictions for this summer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNNC90WWyrw&t=34s

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

Dean of Swing posted:

How bad should we expect to boil this summer?

Some boil, others freeze, a bunch drown. And thanks to climate change making the weather go wooo, we can't tell which is which anymore hell yeah

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Xaris posted:

neat

Some people don't lke Bacigalupi, which is fine, but I rather liked his book The Water Knife as a post-climate change look at the southwest area. Basically texas and arizona reduced to dust with red cross water supplies and california deploying national guard/building a wall to keep the 'zonies out and tensions arising out of diminishing water and water rights. It's still highly fictionized and some of it was not great, but there's not a whole lot of doomsday fictional CC books.

Parable of the Sower is pretty much the only big one i can think of, there was one i read about where pretty much all of california desertifies but i can't remember what it was called

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Shima Honnou posted:

Some boil, others freeze, a bunch drown. And thanks to climate change making the weather go wooo, we can't tell which is which anymore hell yeah

yeah pretty much, all we know is the equilibrium is gone and there's no predictions and no "normals", just more extremes all over the place. who knows, maybe arizona will have a scorching 130f summer while florida simultaneously floods and gets hit by major hurricanes.

last year parts in california here burnt down and were hot tinderboxes, other parts were very mild and got rain a few times. we're overall in a very wet period the last several years but before that was like a 3+ year long drought with dead snowpack and almost no rain all year and things were looking dire. there's no telling when (not if) we'll swing back to a long dry period and if that gets really bad for another 3+ years ontop of ever hottening summers then welp.

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smoke sumthin bitch
Dec 14, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

vyelkin posted:

it's not just climate change: air pollution is damaging every organ in our bodies.

choice quote:

and yet the eco tyrants want more c-trails

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