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TraderStav: May 19, 2006; It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

Incessant Excess posted:

It might be a good idea to check your indexers forums occasionally. I saw a post on one of mine that advises to configure Hydra in a certain way, else you run the risk of losing API access.

Care to tip us off to which to check?

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 18:29

norp: Jan 20, 2004; TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil

Or at least mention the specific thing they are mad about...

My best guess is the redirdect vs proxy on the nzb link

# ? May 21, 2019 03:14

sedative: Mar 20, 2003; ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏

It's one of the two that don't want their name mentioned. Under Downloaders they want your client to use send link instead of upload nzb

and under Searching they want redirect to the indexer instead of proxy

If you can't set redirect to the indexer because of docker or some other reason, they want you to enable the indexer for api searches only

# ? May 21, 2019 04:12

Incessant Excess: Aug 15, 2005; Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

This is indeed what I was referring to. The last one made my Hydra not work anymore so I skipped that one.

# ? May 21, 2019 05:12

norp: Jan 20, 2004; TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil

I assume they are just annoyed about people being able to use hydra for account sharing

# ? May 21, 2019 07:19

ClassH: Mar 18, 2008

Yea I noticed that for NZBs.in I'm not sure they could tell though, since the settings they complain about are ones that would make it so multiple people could share one account. I already had my API access banned from them because I used my account from multiple IP's, which is bullshit since I use it from a laptop and at home all the time. They restored API after I contacted support but im sure it will happen again, so I will be changing my hydra to proxy nzbs from now on for all sites.

# ? May 21, 2019 13:29

Enos Cabell: Nov 3, 2004

On one hand I get it, but on the other it's super hilarious to see indexers get all bent out of shape about people stealing their work.

# ? May 21, 2019 13:47

Duck and Cover: Apr 6, 2007

sedative posted:

It's one of the two that don't want their name mentioned.

So loving stupid. It amazes me how people generally respect this desire.

# ? May 21, 2019 18:52

sedative: Mar 20, 2003; ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏

Duck and Cover posted:

So loving stupid. It amazes me how people generally respect this desire.

They both provide a service that is, at the very best, operating in a legal gray area. Maybe it helps keep the heat off or maybe it doesn't help at all, but if they don't want their names posted in a public forum like this then why not respect their wishes.

# ? May 22, 2019 04:10

Duck and Cover: Apr 6, 2007

sedative posted:

They both provide a service that is, at the very best, operating in a legal gray area. Maybe it helps keep the heat off or maybe it doesn't help at all, but if they don't want their names posted in a public forum like this then why not respect their wishes.

Elitist gatekeeping is a poo poo look.

https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/comments/bk80er/to_old_school_users_what_happened_to_the_first/emfpw0g/?context=2

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[�]DumbLemming 4 points 18 days ago
I love people pretending they're in some sort of special club. Heh I've got access to this private indexer and thus I'm better than you. No you can't know the name that's how special and exclusive it is.

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[�]RToTheSee[S] -5 points 18 days ago
Not that we are better. But it's exclusive for a reason. Theres a barrier to entry.

Why do people go to fancy restaurants vs dine in at McDonald's?

Let the randos search whatever's available at public search sites like nzbindex or binsearch.

It should end there.

Your five star restaurant isn't gonna feel special if you've got homeless people gathering around smelling the steak.

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[�]DumbLemming 7 points 18 days ago*
Yeah no elitism at all here. I mean it's not like you compare the average public usenet user to a homeless person, that'd be ridiculous.

Edit: Also an unnecessary gently caress you to homeless people, just because they lack a home doesn't make them less of a person. I'd be weirded out by any group of people gathering around to smell the steak.

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You want to provide a service provide a service. But expecting it to be some internet secret? HAhahahahaha gently caress right off. In other news I don't whitelist sites just because they ask and or try to hide their content.

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 05:34 on May 22, 2019

# ? May 22, 2019 05:28

EL BROMANCE: Jun 10, 2006; COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Yeah you�re definitely the worst poster in this thread and your shitiness has gone beyond the level of tolerance.

You�re loving stupid, you don�t know how to use a computer, and you can�t even understand the wishes of a website who doesn�t want to be thrown around public. I�ll happily be the one to eat a 6 and tell you to just gently caress off and stop polluting this thread with your non stop garbage posting.

# ? May 22, 2019 05:57

sedative: Mar 20, 2003; ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏

Duck and Cover posted:

Elitist gatekeeping is a poo poo look.

https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/comments/bk80er/to_old_school_users_what_happened_to_the_first/emfpw0g/?context=2

You want to provide a service provide a service. But expecting it to be some internet secret? HAhahahahaha gently caress right off. In other news I don't whitelist sites just because they ask and or try to hide their content.

That guy's a moron who's saying people shouldn't talk about usenet's existence at all. It's not the same thing. That's as stupid as saying we shouldn't mention bit torrent at all.

These indexers just want to stay under the radar like a private torrent tracker would want to.

# ? May 22, 2019 06:01

Laserface: Dec 24, 2004

Its kind of dumb when you consider that NZBs.org was pretty openly discussed for the past 10+ years with out needing to shut down. They went to pretty great lengths to keep it underneath the radar however.

If those people who have taken the vow of silence are getting in return a decent VIP/lifetime membership thing that wont be magically converted to a subscription, then I'd keep it private too.

I have no idea who they are referring to and dont really need to find out, so if thats the case then who gives a poo poo. if its not, and I was one of those people, Id be blabbing til there was an incentive to not blab.

# ? May 22, 2019 07:40

8-bit Miniboss: May 24, 2005; CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY

Did 6box up and disappear or something from when they opened up to NZBs.org refugees to now? I was gonna enter my stuff into my NZBHydra setup and it's just nothing but a line of text.

# ? May 22, 2019 07:43

UltimoDragonQuest: Oct 5, 2011

8-bit Miniboss posted:

Did 6box up and disappear or something from when they opened up to NZBs.org refugees to now? I was gonna enter my stuff into my NZBHydra setup and it's just nothing but a line of text.

Heard they had hosting troubles and it's been a month since any update.

# ? May 22, 2019 08:18

Volguus: Mar 3, 2009

Duck and Cover posted:

Elitist gatekeeping is a poo poo look.

https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/comments/bk80er/to_old_school_users_what_happened_to_the_first/emfpw0g/?context=2

You want to provide a service provide a service. But expecting it to be some internet secret? HAhahahahaha gently caress right off. In other news I don't whitelist sites just because they ask and or try to hide their content.

Well, from that reddit subreddit i found something i never knew i needed: docker images of vpn enabled crap. I had a VM made for my VPN protected torrent needs, but a docker image would work just fine. For whoever is interested: https://github.com/binhex

Are there better ones out there?

# ? May 22, 2019 12:26

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

So I just got a new rig and switched from SABnzbd and Kodi to Nzbget and plex.

It seems fairly intuitive so far, but am I right in thinking that plex is basically a lot like Kodi except it's browser based and synchs up to multiple devices?

# ? May 22, 2019 12:28

Matt Zerella: Oct 7, 2002; Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Volguus posted:

Well, from that reddit subreddit i found something i never knew i needed: docker images of vpn enabled crap. I had a VM made for my VPN protected torrent needs, but a docker image would work just fine. For whoever is interested: https://github.com/binhex

Are there better ones out there?

Not better but the only two pre made docker images I use are binhex and linuxserver.io. I try to stick to ls.io so my common base stays the same and saves me space but binhex is very good too.

# ? May 22, 2019 13:52

EC: Jul 10, 2001; The Legend

Having a problem with SAB that I can't figure out. My server ran out of space, which I didn't notice for a day or so. I cleared out some space and resumed SAB, but now it's giving me a "decoder failure: Out of memory" error and refusing to download. I'm not running SAB as a service, which is what is mentioned in the wiki as a known issue.

So far I've:
Updated to the latest windows version of SAB.
Changed article cache limit to 450M (per wiki) and 0 (per a post on the forum)
Paused all the items but one in the queue.
Restarted the server

But the error still occurs. This is a sample from the log:

code:

2019-05-21 02:43:40,970::ERROR::[assembler:99] Disk full! Forcing Pause
2019-05-21 23:08:37,354::WARNING::[decoder:139] Decoder failure: Out of memory
2019-05-22 07:19:37,253::WARNING::[decoder:139] Decoder failure: Out of memory
2019-05-22 07:22:28,934::WARNING::[decoder:139] Decoder failure: Out of memory
2019-05-22 07:23:05,142::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:05] ENGINE Bus STOPPING
2019-05-22 07:23:05,720::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:05] ENGINE HTTP Server cherrypy._cpwsgi_server.CPWSGIServer(('192.168.1.5', 8080)) shut down
2019-05-22 07:23:05,720::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:05] ENGINE Bus STOPPED
2019-05-22 07:23:05,720::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:05] ENGINE Bus EXITING
2019-05-22 07:23:05,720::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:05] ENGINE Bus EXITED
2019-05-22 07:23:05,720::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:05] ENGINE Re-spawning C:\Program Files\SABnzbd\SABnzbd.exe C:\Program Files\SABnzbd\SABnzbd.exe -p
2019-05-22 07:23:08,996::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:08] ENGINE Bus STARTING
2019-05-22 07:23:09,385::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:09] ENGINE Serving on [url]http://192.168.1.5:8080[/url]
2019-05-22 07:23:09,385::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:09] ENGINE Bus STARTED

Any pointers?

# ? May 22, 2019 14:17

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

EC posted:

Having a problem with SAB that I can't figure out. My server ran out of space, which I didn't notice for a day or so. I cleared out some space and resumed SAB, but now it's giving me a "decoder failure: Out of memory" error and refusing to download. I'm not running SAB as a service, which is what is mentioned in the wiki as a known issue.

So far I've:
Updated to the latest windows version of SAB.
Changed article cache limit to 450M (per wiki) and 0 (per a post on the forum)
Paused all the items but one in the queue.
Restarted the server

But the error still occurs. This is a sample from the log:
code:
2019-05-21 02:43:40,970::ERROR::[assembler:99] Disk full! Forcing Pause
2019-05-21 23:08:37,354::WARNING::[decoder:139] Decoder failure: Out of memory
2019-05-22 07:19:37,253::WARNING::[decoder:139] Decoder failure: Out of memory
2019-05-22 07:22:28,934::WARNING::[decoder:139] Decoder failure: Out of memory
2019-05-22 07:23:05,142::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:05] ENGINE Bus STOPPING
2019-05-22 07:23:05,720::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:05] ENGINE HTTP Server cherrypy._cpwsgi_server.CPWSGIServer(('192.168.1.5', 8080)) shut down
2019-05-22 07:23:05,720::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:05] ENGINE Bus STOPPED
2019-05-22 07:23:05,720::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:05] ENGINE Bus EXITING
2019-05-22 07:23:05,720::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:05] ENGINE Bus EXITED
2019-05-22 07:23:05,720::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:05] ENGINE Re-spawning C:\Program Files\SABnzbd\SABnzbd.exe C:\Program Files\SABnzbd\SABnzbd.exe -p
2019-05-22 07:23:08,996::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:08] ENGINE Bus STARTING
2019-05-22 07:23:09,385::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:09] ENGINE Serving on [url]http://192.168.1.5:8080[/url]
2019-05-22 07:23:09,385::INFO::[_cplogging:219] [22/May/2019:07:23:09] ENGINE Bus STARTED
Any pointers?

I got this a few weeks ago (out of nowhere) i did the same things as you. Only thing that worked for me was a complete deletion of any queues and a restart of the whole computer.

# ? May 22, 2019 14:51

EC: Jul 10, 2001; The Legend

Kin posted:

I got this a few weeks ago (out of nowhere) i did the same things as you. Only thing that worked for me was a complete deletion of any queues and a restart of the whole computer.

Oh rad, this worked. Thanks! Luckily I had less than 10 items in the queue.

# ? May 22, 2019 15:14

frameset: Apr 13, 2008

I think I had that once, it was because I had removed my backup mount point and it had filled my SSD mounted to /

I was very confused as my huge LVM group had TBs of space left. Once I figured it out and cleaned up the mess, I restarted the sabnzbd service and it was fine.

# ? May 22, 2019 15:44

Duck and Cover: Apr 6, 2007

sedative posted:

That guy's a moron who's saying people shouldn't talk about usenet's existence at all. It's not the same thing. That's as stupid as saying we shouldn't mention bit torrent at all.

These indexers just want to stay under the radar like a private torrent tracker would want to.

Maybe the original poster but I was talking about indexers in that quote. Pathetic paranoia all around. Oh no can't say it on this here Somethingawful forums they'll find out and ban me! Oh no the government/copy right holders gonna find out about our secret club and target us. (as if they don't already know about the "secret" club)

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 21:12 on May 22, 2019

# ? May 22, 2019 21:05

Taima: Dec 31, 2006; tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know

Hey yall, I've been doing Usenet forever, but I just got a gigabit FTTH connection and unfortunately it doesn't look like Newsgroup Ninja allows you to cap out on their service (despite saying UNLIMITED SPEED yeah sure guys). My current cap hovers around 60 megabytes/second.

So my question is, am I doing something wrong? What do I need to do to get full gigabit speeds on Usenet? I'm using the max connections.

Thanks

# ? May 23, 2019 01:07

Fano: Oct 20, 2010

Taima posted:

Hey yall, I've been doing Usenet forever, but I just got a gigabit FTTH connection and unfortunately it doesn't look like Newsgroup Ninja allows you to cap out on their service (despite saying UNLIMITED SPEED yeah sure guys). My current cap hovers around 60 megabytes/second.

So my question is, am I doing something wrong? What do I need to do to get full gigabit speeds on Usenet? I'm using the max connections.

Thanks

I just got a gigabit line as well and I've never seen speeds over 40-45 Mbps....I've been wondering if any of my configuration is messed up (or if I'm being ripped off by AT&T) but I don't know enough about these things to troubleshoot it effectively.

# ? May 23, 2019 02:59

Volguus: Mar 3, 2009

I'm using NZBGet and NewzgroupDirect and I saw 80-90 MB/s on my 1 Gbps FTTH. Usually around 60-70 mark when i look which is not often since they're come so quickly anyway. A speedtest should tell you your maximum speed. If you don't reach it with your usenet provider then its on them (and whatever else you have going on at the same time).

# ? May 23, 2019 04:43

Decairn: Dec 1, 2007

In the Download Queue settings there's Skip Write option which you can use for a throughput test. I can get 60-70MB/s from Newsdemon in this mode and 80-90 when I add another server download provider. With regular setup also look for settings to not par-check or unpack while downloading - this effectively single streams the steps for everything in the queue to remove the disk/cpu bottlenecks and get each individual download completed ASAP. I also see a difference between by NAS and PC - the NAS has no SSD and lower power CPU, it'll run at ~40-50MB/s versus the PC 60-70.

Decairn fucked around with this message at 21:02 on May 23, 2019

# ? May 23, 2019 15:28

Duck and Cover: Apr 6, 2007

I don't get it. Like I added the anime category to sonarrs nzbhydras connection and it improved my grab rate. Now that sounds obvious and should make sense but the thing is it improved it beyond what it was when I wasn't using nzbhydra. Pretty sure I had the anime category setup before on the indexers but I am an idiot so maybe I didn't (or not enough of them).

Sonarr changes the file structure it searches for (1x01 (01) instead of s01e01) if you have you selected anime in the dropdown however it seems to only search for things in the anime category as well. Of course if you don't have that category in your indexer connection then it just does nothing because it's dumb. Warn me maybe? Say something? Communicate yeah? Why it doesn't try the 1x01 if it can't find anything with s01e01 (no anime category needed) I don't know. Perhaps it should force the 5070 category on all indexers when you're searching for anime.

I also added 5000, not that I think it did anything. Maybe Sonarr just improved something from the last time I tried to grab these files.

My other issues still stand but this one appears to be mainly my fault. I do realize admitting this will make the "is it plugged it posters?" totally feel vindicated, but please realize your posts didn't actual help me.

# ? May 23, 2019 20:03

Thermopyle: Jul 1, 2003; ...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. �Bertrand Russell

Duck and Cover posted:

but please realize your posts didn't actual help me.

I'm sure everyone is broke up about this.

# ? May 23, 2019 22:11

Violator: May 15, 2003

Anyone having issues with incompletes on NewsDemon? I'm running into things like 50 to 99 blocks short on a wide range of different downloads.

Edit: Sab reports it downloads 100% correctly.

Violator fucked around with this message at 22:39 on May 23, 2019

# ? May 23, 2019 22:35

Tapedump: Aug 31, 2007; College Slice

Hey thread, why does it take so many words to write "butt-hurt"?

# ? May 24, 2019 02:16

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Since i've recently moved to a compute stick, I was planning to leave it on all the time.

As such I was wondering what the best remote access setup was? Like mobile apps and such or whatever.

Are there any or is it more of a web browser type of setup that's recommended?

# ? May 25, 2019 15:59

Thermopyle: Jul 1, 2003; ...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. �Bertrand Russell

nzb360 is a really good mobile app.

# ? May 25, 2019 17:41

Rooted Vegetable: Jun 1, 2002

Thermopyle posted:

nzb360 is a really good mobile app.

I second that. However, I'll also direct praise to the mobile web interfaces of NZBget, Radarr and Sonarr.

# ? May 25, 2019 18:18

EL BROMANCE: Jun 10, 2006; COWABUNGA DUDES!
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They�re ok but they could be improved. Manually importing, searching shows etc is often cut off and awkward.

EL BROMANCE fucked around with this message at 19:09 on May 25, 2019

# ? May 25, 2019 18:40

The Gunslinger: Jul 24, 2004; Do not forget the face of your father.; Fun Shoe

Thermopyle posted:

nzb360 is a really good mobile app.

It's the only thing I miss from Android, such a great app. I'm using nzbUnity now on iOS and it's really good but the interface is a bit more cumbersome.

# ? May 25, 2019 21:53

Dongattack: Dec 20, 2006; by Cyrano4747

What's this SUPERSIZE tag I've started seeing a lot? (its not new tho, just recently started running into it) Usually seems to be blueray and the like with absurdly small filesizes, is it legit or something i should block?

Automated system hasn't actually grabbed anything like it yet, just seen them in manual searches.

# ? May 25, 2019 23:21

Minty Swagger: Sep 8, 2005; Ribbit Ribbit Real Good

Anyone who's on unraid and accessing their server remotely, what do you do security wise? VPN? Something else?

# ? May 26, 2019 16:57

Rooted Vegetable: Jun 1, 2002

VPN (usually OpenVPN AS) are loved by the Unraid community and they're a good choice. Personally I SSH (with pubkey auth) into raspberry Pi on the same network and tunnel from that to Unraid (which annoyingly doesn't easily support pubkey auth, and the community seems reticent about it).

# ? May 26, 2019 18:39

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 18:29

Incessant Excess: Aug 15, 2005; Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

Not sure exactly what the policy on links to indexers is but there is a private (minor) one open for registrations today:

https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/

Top post at the moment.

# ? May 26, 2019 21:18

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