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Shame Boy posted:wait in line to see a doctor! This argument is always such a cop out too, because we sure as hell have to wait in line to see a doctor in the US too.
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Iron Crowned posted:This argument is always such a cop out too, because we sure as hell have to wait in line to see a doctor in the US too. last time I tried to schedule a physical I had to wait 3 months to get in, and a week before the appointment they called and told me my doctor doesn't work there anymore and bumped my appointment back another 4 months. then two months later called and did it again by 2 months. and then when I finally got in they made me do a shitload of tests because I was a little anemic, and like $3000 later (after insurance of course) they basically shrugged and I was told to take over the counter iron pills the system works
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Iron Crowned posted:This argument is always such a cop out too, because we sure as hell have to wait in line to see a doctor in the US too. Yeah but like they have to wait in a three hour line, at the hospital!!! My favorite case of this was when I was talking to my uncle shortly after the obamacare website had imploded and told him how in Britain instead of hiring a million subcontractors to build different incompatible components of a system they have a team employed by the government that makes the software thing they need and then contractors just run it, so it at least starts off coordinated and functional, and almost reflexively he came back with "yeah but our medical system is still way better than theirs, we don't have to wait in lines!!" ...okay?
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Shame Boy posted:Yeah but like they have to wait in a three hour line, at the hospital!!! the obvious follow up of course is “wait how have you never waited in line?”
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hobbesmaster posted:the obvious follow up of course is “wait how have you never waited in line?” That was my cue to change the subject because arguing with him goes nowhere and just leaves you annoyed and disappointed that he's somehow related to you.
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gey muckle mowser posted:to contribute an actual image: should ask for change from a penny
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hobbesmaster posted:the obvious follow up of course is “wait how have you never waited in line?” The goal posts will always keep moving 
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gey muckle mowser posted:to contribute an actual image: Any time I see "charge up," it just makes me think of J/O crystals.
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Dr. Killjoy posted:Actually I’m curious how do yearly increases in mortgage payments (yes I understand there is such a thing as “fixed rate”) compare vs rent increases? I honestly get the feeling that banks are less parasitic than landlords in that regard. Going by my experience with a fixed rate 30 yr loan...3 years in I'm still paying roughly the same monthly mortgage payment, which also covers homeowners insurance and property taxes. Rent goes up 5-30% (LOL) each year. As long as my home's value climbs reasonably slowly in value and taxes aren't jacked up (unlikely in today's conservative political climate) and my insurance risk pool stays the same, my payment might only increase by a percent each year. If my escrow earns the mortgage company enough return, it might even drop slightly in some years.
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Iron Crowned posted:Any time I see "charge up," it just makes me think of J/O crystals. JO crystals are the energy storing mechanism of the 21st century, we just need to find a way to store solar energy using robot hands.
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gey muckle mowser posted:to contribute an actual image: would legit set up a bitcoin mining rig in the basement
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SplitSoul posted:Ah, those guys are buying up all the properties in Copenhagen as well and jacking up the rent. We have similar in Dublin since our neoliberal government gave real estate investment trusts tax exemption on profits. They’re buying up the bulk of any new development and renting them out for few hundred above market rate constantly pushing up the market rate.
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Marenghi posted:We have similar in Dublin since our neoliberal government gave real estate investment trusts tax exemption on profits. lol looks like James Connolly was right
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Moridin920 posted:lol looks like James Connolly was right I was unaware this was a controversial stance
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hobbesmaster posted:the obvious follow up of course is “wait how have you never waited in line?” A co-worker told me he didn't want a bureaucrat deciding what kind of care he got. He was honestly surprised when I pointed out that that's the entire business model of the insurance industry.
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Captain Billy Pissboy posted:A co-worker told me he didn't want a bureaucrat deciding what kind of care he got. He was honestly surprised when I pointed out that that's the entire business model of the insurance industry. lmfao
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Captain Billy Pissboy posted:A co-worker told me he didn't want a bureaucrat deciding what kind of care he got. He was honestly surprised when I pointed out that that's the entire business model of the insurance industry. government bureaucrats run death panels like THIS corporate bureaucrats run death panels like THAT
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The Nastier Nate posted:government bureaucrats run death panels like THIS Government runs death panels. Corporations run life panels.  Man, trying to unwrap the disconnect between corporate good government bad will drive me to madness...
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Warmachine posted:Government runs death panels. I give a company money. Government takes my money, so regardless of the outcome, people who never grasped the preschool slogan "sharing is caring" see Walmart good, food stamps bad
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My dad, a lifelong republican who hated Obamacare, once proposed a healthcare system where everyone is guaranteed healthcare and you pay what you can based on your income. Poor people and the disabled wouldn't pay anything while rich people would subsidize them. I even got him to agree with a paraphrase of "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need". The second I pointed out that he just proposed a socialized health system he turned against his own idea
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Captain Billy Pissboy posted:My dad, a lifelong republican who hated Obamacare, once proposed a healthcare system where everyone is guaranteed healthcare and you pay what you can based on your income. Poor people and the disabled wouldn't pay anything while rich people would subsidize them. I even got him to agree with a paraphrase of "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need". It needs a tough macho guy name like "pay what you owe" or "American Health for our troops and citizens plan" or chud type guys are too afraid to back it because people might think they're gay.
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Come get your FREEDOM CARE at the AMERICAN HEALTH CENTER, patriot
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STAND YOUR GROUND and Get your child on the FAMILY AND HOME DEFENSE IMMUNIZATION SCHEDULE. Its like giving YOUR CHILD an INTERNAL GUN to fight off BODILY INVADERS
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Captain Billy Pissboy posted:My dad, a lifelong republican who hated Obamacare, once proposed a healthcare system where everyone is guaranteed healthcare and you pay what you can based on your income. Poor people and the disabled wouldn't pay anything while rich people would subsidize them. I even got him to agree with a paraphrase of "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need". Ask him to articulate what he didn't like about his own idea
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I find there's a strain of libertarianism that runs really deep these days. It's not just over healthcare poo poo, but yeah people definitely trust private insurance companies to administer their healthcare better than the government for some reason. It's come up recently in NZ around the idea of an independent, democratic social media regulator. People started wailing about free speech as soon as the idea was raised, but then when it was pointed out to them that Facebook, Twitter et al already make totally opaque decisions around what speech is allowed on their platforms, and those same people suddenly clam up and start talking about how those companies are responsible and that's just fine. Like where the gently caress did we go wrong to the point that people trust private multinational corporations more than democratic institutions?
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Idk but probably somewhere around when we let the multinationals control 95% of media/information people consume.
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T-man posted:Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that's why I mine on company time. Using power to mine bitcoin because you don't pay for it yourself certainly belongs in this thread. RabbitWizard has issued a correction as of 21:29 on May 28, 2019 |
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Moridin920 posted:Idk but probably somewhere around when we let the multinationals control 95% of media/information people consume. Or maybe the last 400 years or so of lobbying and propaganda portraying private industry as efficient and the government as bloated and corrupt
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bike tory posted:Like where the gently caress did we go wrong to the point that people trust private multinational corporations more than democratic institutions? Decades of one-sided Information Warfare. Propaganda works.
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bike tory posted:I find there's a strain of libertarianism that runs really deep these days. It's not just over healthcare poo poo, but yeah people definitely trust private insurance companies to administer their healthcare better than the government for some reason. I don't want my government to directly control what people are allowed to put out on social media, that's a terrible idea.
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Shame Boy posted:Yeah but like they have to wait in a three hour line, at the hospital!!! Remind him that appointments are really just standing in line for days or weeks.
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Lambert posted:I don't want my government to directly control what people are allowed to put out on social media, that's a terrible idea. The idea floated was for the government to set up an independent social media regulator who would set standards around the kind of content on social media. The government wouldn't control it other than by extending or limiting its power through legislation. We already have that for news media, so the idea was to create something similar for social media basically aimed at hateful or nazi content.
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Someone on tumblr spotted it at their local immigrant owned taco shop, which makes it extra depressing 
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This is such a low self esteem flex. Our country is powerful and perfect and brave but please pretty please don't put on a burka or everything we have built here will crumble in to dust and we will all die 
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Koishi Komeiji posted:This is such a low self esteem flex. Our country is powerful and perfect and brave but please pretty please don't put on a burka or everything we have built here will crumble in to dust and we will all die The counterpoint of  ?
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Lemniscate Blue posted:The counterpoint of it seems to jive with the eco in here pretty well. simultaneously the best, strongest, sexiest country ever and also vulnerable to death by burqa. fascism is a coward’s ideology after all
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