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Jun 1, 2019 11:00
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Zeroisanumber posted:What? I had to take a minute but I think she's arguing that Native Americans should just be called "Americans" and non-Native American Americans should be called "New Americans" or something, to be consistent with her desire that cis women are just called women and trans women are always called trans women.
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Jun 1, 2019 11:06
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She's saying trans women will become the new default "women" and "cis women" will be a term like "Native American" even though "they were here first, they should just be called Americans". It's TERF bullshit about how trans people are a conspiracy against women and the essence of feminity. They twist themselves into pretzels over how "cis" is a slur or a sinister attempt at "erasure".
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Jun 1, 2019 11:59
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It's like poaching a domain name. If you start using ciswomen.gender then the trans extremists will swoop in and register women.gender and you'll have to pay a ridiculous fee and deal with godaddy customer support to get it back.
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Jun 1, 2019 12:28
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https://twitter.com/USCPSC/status/1134784218897272834
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Jun 1, 2019 12:31
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Jun 1, 2019 12:52
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YaketySass posted:She's saying trans women will become the new default "women" and "cis women" will be a term like "Native American" even though "they were here first, they should just be called Americans". It's TERF bullshit about how trans people are a conspiracy against women and the essence of feminity. They twist themselves into pretzels over how "cis" is a slur or a sinister attempt at "erasure". It's cool how reactionary sentimentality has shifted from insisting lesbianist feminism is trying to destroy femininity, to people wanting to be feminine destroying femininity. Imagine writing a political thriller, and then afterwards saying it's "not political" because you "let the reader draw their own conclusions." Avellone was a lead writer on New Vegas, which is one of the most overtly political video games ever made. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 14:42 on Jun 1, 2019 |
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Jun 1, 2019 14:39
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being "nonpolitical" or "nonideological" is seen as a huge virtue, as being "common sense", open to solutions even if they come from the other side blah blah blah all that feelgood poo poo that does NOTHING to change things so sticking that label onto yourself is a good PR move if you want to present yourself well to the general public, people don't think about these things anyway
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Jun 1, 2019 15:08
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Every story makes a moral argument and moral arguments are political.
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Jun 1, 2019 15:20
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well that quote makes it clear he doesn’t understand that the status quo is not nonpolitical
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Jun 1, 2019 15:29
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It's just different places to put the bar for what's political and what's not political. For a lot of people "political" is "in this game the main villain is literally, actually a real politician, we used their name, face, and exact positions"
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Jun 1, 2019 15:40
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Jun 1, 2019 15:45
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The ac one isn't really accurate but only because those games are such a mess politically speaking
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Jun 1, 2019 15:53
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What's the top one
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Jun 1, 2019 15:57
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If anything, having the protagonist of the first game be a devout Muslim (as you'd expect from the time period) instead of a proto-Enlightenment guy would have been more politically provoking, I think.
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Jun 1, 2019 15:58
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:What's the top one cods generally I think
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Jun 1, 2019 16:01
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Nah there's a specific thing
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Jun 1, 2019 16:03
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https://twitter.com/dpatrikarakos/status/1133760924421152769
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Jun 1, 2019 16:05
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Nah there's a specific thing Modern warfare 2, in which the russkies attack America under the sway of a hypernationalist terrorist acolyte of a Chechen (?) Russian hypernationalist
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Jun 1, 2019 16:05
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  good stuff in the replies here turn off the TV has issued a correction as of 16:09 on Jun 1, 2019 |
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Jun 1, 2019 16:07
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dude has Yale in the bio as if the worst policies of the past 40 years didn’t all come from ivy leaguers
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Jun 1, 2019 16:11
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cool dance moves posted:Modern warfare 2, in which the russkies attack America under the sway of a hypernationalist terrorist acolyte of a Chechen (?) Russian hypernationalist Yeah, because the CIA participated in the airport massacre and the player character's body is left as objective proof. Weird how the game never really meditates on that.
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Jun 1, 2019 16:12
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Taintrunner posted:dude has Yale in the bio as if the worst policies of the past 40 years didn’t all come from ivy leaguers its too easy for me to forget that most people see "ivy educated" and think something besides "definitely a bootlicking dumbass"
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Jun 1, 2019 16:13
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Given that his writing credits include Fallout 2 and loving Tyranny I'm going to say he just doesn't want to talk about it as an interview question and was too dumb/cowardly to just say "no comment."
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Jun 1, 2019 16:23
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A Big Fuckin Hornet posted:its too easy for me to forget that most people see "ivy educated" and think something besides "definitely a bootlicking dumbass" I got into this argument with my wife a couple weeks ago and I’m like dude you lucked out
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Jun 1, 2019 16:25
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Lol avellonne sucks
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Jun 1, 2019 17:32
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Kurtofan posted:Lol avellonne sucks It's really sad, actually. Dude did great work but eventually caught the brainworms.
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Jun 1, 2019 18:40
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There is only one game i can think of that could reliably have zero amount of political nuance: Asteroids (1979)
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Jun 1, 2019 19:16
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Solar Tornado posted:There is only one game i can think of that could reliably have zero amount of political nuance: Asteroids (1979) Pong is about the shifting of the overton window and the pendulum of American politics
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Jun 1, 2019 19:19
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I want to say there's a difference between games having political themes and a game being a straight-up direct political allegory and that's what the actual contention here is, but honestly that's giving gamers far too much credit.
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Jun 1, 2019 19:19
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Space imvaders is anti immgiration
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Jun 1, 2019 19:22
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Gex is an anti-consumerist manifesto
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Jun 1, 2019 19:43
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Solar Tornado posted:There is only one game i can think of that could reliably have zero amount of political nuance: Asteroids (1979) even asteroids implies investment in outer space laser bullet technology, so its political when you try to decide if that was public or private sector funding. any attempt to suss out a background immediately makes the game political
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Jun 1, 2019 21:20
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Asteroids is political because it presupposes that it is politically OK to blow up asteroids with the power of man, as opposed to leaving them properly in the sphere of God and his infinite wisdom in where they go.
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Jun 1, 2019 22:35
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Asteroids aren't real, it's a lefty ploy for more big government.
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Jun 1, 2019 22:40
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life was a cis-take
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Jun 2, 2019 01:12
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cool dance moves posted:Modern warfare 2, in which the russkies attack America under the sway of a hypernationalist terrorist acolyte of a Chechen (?) Russian hypernationalist I think it’s more referring to General Betrays-a-lot (the American one who murders the player character and the skull-balaclava dude) being behind the whole war.
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Jun 2, 2019 01:14
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Avellone is misdefining "political" as "ham-fisted agitprop". This is a characteristically Gen X way to think about politics.
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Jun 2, 2019 01:54
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1982 Subaru Brat posted:Avellone is misdefining "political" as "ham-fisted agitprop". This is a characteristically Gen X way to think about politics.
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Jun 2, 2019 02:14
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I don't think of my art as political, because none of it holds any elected office at the moment. If Fallout 2 manages to win a Senate seat, then my art will be political.
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Jun 2, 2019 02:15
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