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Yellow Ant posted:Do kids even get the painted van joke? I guess they would've seen them in other movies. There's something about the look that does make me think 70s/80s movie suburbs. I didn't realize it was based on something from the writer's life though, so the aesthetic might be on purpose. It's an eternal thing that all kids shows are set vaguely a generation ago. There is a reason that bart simpson is a tv show from 1990 but his favorite shows are a tom and jerry parody and a television clown (and why garfield's least favorite show is a television clown). Tv shows for kids are made by adults, and so virtually every tv show has a weird agonistic touch of being set in the years the author grew up in. Like every kid's show now has everyone watching sailor moon and using number 2 pencils to take scantron tests in school, because that is what a cartoon writer thinks of as what you do as a kid. Just like every show from the 80s was set in the bizzaro 1950s/60s and you just kinda accepted that as a setting because every show was consistent about it.
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Pretty much, Steven Universe is one of the few shows that seem to try to line up with modernity, but there's still some wrinkles (like Steven playing what looks to be a SNES analogue - though his musical tastes can be entirely laid on his stuck in the 80s dad). Even if kids don't entirely get all the jokes - they still understand lot of the underlying humor if it's written right, like Hollywood Steps Out, the humor relies a lot on the really odd caricatures and sight gags, just knowing who they're lampooning is just a bonus.
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Robindaybird posted:Pretty much, Steven Universe is one of the few shows that seem to try to line up with modernity, but there's still some wrinkles (like Steven playing what looks to be a SNES analogue - though his musical tastes can be entirely laid on his stuck in the 80s dad). Steven has a GameCube
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DoctorWhat posted:Steven has a GameCube I mean to be fair a kid who grew up with a Gamecube is probably in college now. Doesn't really change the point when you're talking about a system that is older now than the NES was when the Gamecube came out.
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ImpAtom posted:I mean to be fair a kid who grew up with a Gamecube is probably in college now. Doesn't really change the point when you're talking about a system that is older now than the NES was when the Gamecube came out. You say that like retro gaming isn’t super popular. In this case, anachronism is modernity.
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Option 1: Mike and Sully plan to celebrate Boo's birthday but find out she has moved. Going off the replies on twitter (which are of course always trustworthy) Option 2 was it.
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Jun 1, 2019 16:32
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Option 3: Mike and Sulley find out that time has no meaning for them because they are immortal idea forms.
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Phylodox posted:You say that like retro gaming isn’t super popular. In this case, anachronism is modernity. And he plays it on a CRT TV. (frequently a different one as his TVs get destroyed pretty regularly. Presumably they're easy to replace) It's not like plenty of kids don't grow up playing older consoles long after the new ones come out simply because their parents didn't buy the new ones or they got hand-me-downs. (and Steven's family aren't in a hurry to adjust to modernity)
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I appreciated that they had a Sega Master System on Regular Show. The 3DS game's booklet even had the Master System cover art aesthetic. 
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Is there something to get other than people in the 80s painting unicorns on the sides of vans?
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I mean, they weren't called Shaggin' Wagons for nothing, but yeah that joke can still be implied (and that kind of joke is more for adults anyways)
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:It's an eternal thing that all kids shows are set vaguely a generation ago. Twenty years from now kids on tv will be watching some shrill racist idiot play a video game badly while doing a stupid dance Also Pixar nobody cares about your specific lived experiences
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Jun 1, 2019 19:12
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when was the last time there wasn't a pet that acted like a dog in a animated movie besides good cat toothless stop making everything dogs people
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God, Bagheera's animation is the best part of that version of the Jungle Book
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I'm also partial to Accurately Protagonistic Kaa. Actually, on the whole, I think it's some of the best animal animation ever done, for capturing movement in a way that's extremely authentic to the animal, even when they're doing something unnatural.   They didn't have a Disney budget but they clearly had very talented animators. Pick fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jun 1, 2019 |
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While I get it was their way to try to convey his mesmerism, I found the way they portray his movements when hypnotizing the langurs kind of jarring, as if they had an off month. Otherwise yes his movements were really smooth. I do appreciate during that scene while Bagheera and Baloo were similarly entranced - their fur were bristling, and the monkeys had a stupefied look of fright, just hammering in why crossing Kaa is a loving bad idea.
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Robindaybird posted:While I get it was their way to try to convey his mesmerism, I found the way they portray his movements when hypnotizing the langurs kind of jarring, as if they had an off month. Otherwise yes his movements were really smooth. I agree on Baloo and Bagheera's hypnotism, and when Mowgli breaks it you can see it really cleanly. Just communicated very well. I can see why some people aren't as into some of the "tricks" they did; I would have probably done Kaa's hypnotism a little differently, but as with Tabaqui, I think the sudden animation breaks are really inspired. (Though it works a little better on Tabaqui to indicate his neuroticism.)
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Ghost Leviathan posted:And he plays it on a CRT TV. (frequently a different one as his TVs get destroyed pretty regularly. Presumably they're easy to replace) It's not like plenty of kids don't grow up playing older consoles long after the new ones come out simply because their parents didn't buy the new ones or they got hand-me-downs. (and Steven's family aren't in a hurry to adjust to modernity) aw no, steven's a pro melee player 
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ungulateman posted:aw no, steven's a pro melee player Beat me to it. Ain't loving with him in that game if he goes that far for his gaming edge.
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Steven Universe in particular I think sidesteps part of the childhood stuff since Steven doesn't go to school. Beach City has a pretty retro feel to it and is apparently based on some real locations, though sleepy coastal tourist towns tend to feel at least 20 years in the past in any case. (I grew up around them too, I should know) Not even getting into the whole alternate history thing. I recall reading that for The Lion King, Disney brought in a bunch of zoo animals including lions, gazelles, etc for the animators to study. Desperate Character posted:when was the last time there wasn't a pet that acted like a dog in a animated movie besides good cat toothless stop making everything dogs people I'm okay with it when it's obviously taking the piss with a snake or xenomorph dog.
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russian animators can animate cats well because russians all own cats and all russians love cats and think about cats every day
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They should make a cat act like a dog, and a dog act like a cat for a movie.
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Have a p. good video about the troubled production of the unfortunately flawed Little Nemo adaptation, and the impossibly large amount of Important Artists who surrounded it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdGQSThkMLk
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Pick posted:russian animators can animate cats well because russians all own cats and all russians love cats and think about cats every day e: and bears
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SomeJazzyRat posted:Have a p. good video about the troubled production of the unfortunately flawed Little Nemo adaptation, and the impossibly large amount of Important Artists who surrounded it. I remember seeing that movie at least three times as a kid and recall literally nothing about it except a gigantic shadow manta ray gets bisected at one point in it
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Captain Invictus posted:I remember seeing that movie at least three times as a kid and recall literally nothing about it except a gigantic shadow manta ray gets bisected at one point in it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRs4Y3Kzdt0&t=5009s Always thought Little Nemo was a beautifully animated thing, even if the story was a little flat. Gave us an amazing Capcom game, too. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Jun 2, 2019 |
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FilthyImp posted:SHAZAMA PAJAMA JAZAMA SHAZAMA PAJAMA!  It's a great movie regardless of it's troubles.
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Oh man, Little Nemo is one of those movies I loved as a kid and then seemed to drop off the face of the Earth once I got older. I don't think anyone I've ever asked has seen it. I named our first dog Nemo, and then had to put up with everyone assuming he was named after Finding Nemo when that movie came out four whole years later 
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By the by, the actual comic strip really is amazing in that Krazy Kat/Calvin and Hobbes way that is endearing and gorgeous and just unique. I snagged a zip file ages ago with I think the complete run and the gag where Nemo falls out at the end is always expected but nevertheless works.
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My sister and I wore out our Little Nemo VHS when we were kids. Loved that movie. That liquid Nightmare scenes were actually pretty scary for children. They did an amazing job of making it look oozy and dark and 'wrong'.
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The Little Nemo NES game stands as some of my favorite and most nostalgic game music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPLxtNeBjRI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX75X2fOwpw I have a stronger connection to this and the Black Cauldron game than I do to their respective movies. I also wore out a Little Nemo VHS but as a kid I treated it like, "They made a cartoon off this game I love!"
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FilthyImp posted:SHAZAMA PAJAMA JAZAMA SHAZAMA PAJAMA! I LOVE Little Nemo. It's one of those "the plot is just an excuse for pretty animation" movies, and that's just fine.
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FilthyImp posted:SHAZAMA PAJAMA JAZAMA SHAZAMA PAJAMA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9-1Ga8f3b4
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Ghost Leviathan posted:And he plays it on a CRT TV. (frequently a different one as his TVs get destroyed pretty regularly. Presumably they're easy to replace) It's not like plenty of kids don't grow up playing older consoles long after the new ones come out simply because their parents didn't buy the new ones or they got hand-me-downs. (and Steven's family aren't in a hurry to adjust to modernity) I mean, that is the same as bart watching fake tom and jerry, everyone in the 1990s still watched tom and jerry. Your parents always make you do the things they liked, so it's not exactly totally alien to see old stuff, but all kids media is always written by adults and always more like childhood 20 years ago than what childhood primarily is at the age the audience is.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I mean, that is the same as bart watching fake tom and jerry, everyone in the 1990s still watched tom and jerry. Your parents always make you do the things they liked, so it's not exactly totally alien to see old stuff, but all kids media is always written by adults and always more like childhood 20 years ago than what childhood primarily is at the age the audience is. The Simpsons is an odd case where they started out being more 60s style (with Marge as an exaggerated 60s housewife) but turned out to settle well into modernity. And also Itchy and Scratchy is specifically presented as a cartoon short within Krusty's live action kids show (much like The Simpsons started out as shorts on The Tracey Ullman Show), just to be even more retro, though if anything Itchy and Scratchy was oddly prescient given Ren and Stimpy just a few years later. (Though it was actually based more specifically on Herman and Katnip, which was basically a more violent and crazy Tom and Jerry, and given just a bit more exaggeration)
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Not as pretty (by far, it's anination is pretty blah most of the time), but I always appreciated the Felix the Cat movie as just this weird thing I stumbled upon in the local video rental place. E:: sad I never got the sequel unmasking the Duke of Nil FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Jun 2, 2019 |
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Old video rental that were part of the gas station/small grocer were great. Elm Chanted Forest, Little Nemo, Wizards (was in kids animated, lol), Felix the Cat, Flight of Dragons, probably some other crap I can't remember we rented every week.
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Yup. Flight of Dragons doing the "Fantasy, but some light science to make it work" along with James Earl Jones and John Ritter was extremely fun. Never could get over the middle school joke inherent in a guy named Peter Dickinson.
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I'm still tickled the theme song was sung by Don McLean
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