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Studio posted:Can we all agree that DK64 is better than Tooie dk64 is good as gently caress, on a game level and a speedrun level, so yes
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Jun 3, 2019 00:13
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Johnny Joestar posted:dk64 is good as gently caress, on a game level let's not get too crazy here
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Jun 3, 2019 00:21
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Studio posted:Can we all agree that DK64 is better than Tooie shut the f up they are both bad
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Jun 3, 2019 00:23
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i'd take tooie over dk64 but that almost definitely is because the former was the first rare 3d platformer I played and the latter was the last
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Jun 3, 2019 00:26
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Tooie is emptier than DK64, but you also don't have to go over each area five times or do repetitive minigames before you can get your collectables, so it's a better game. And also Tooie didn't stonewall me with an arcade game as a kid for eight months before I could fight the final boss. < >DK64 is a better speedrun, though.
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Jun 3, 2019 00:37
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absolutely anything posted:let's not get too crazy here it has a lot of collectibles but there's nothing requiring that someone has to collect 100% of it unless they're hbomberguy doing a stream for a trans charity and alexandria ocasio-cortex among other people show up in the discord to talk, but, hey
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Jun 3, 2019 00:37
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Dk64 is fun until youve been grinding for hours and then realize you're only like 15% of the way through the game Banjo 1 you can 100% in like 7 hours going slow. Much more manageable
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Jun 3, 2019 00:40
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absolutely anything posted:nuts and bolts is the best banjo
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Jun 3, 2019 01:36
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absolutely anything posted:banjo 1 is good, tooie is a dumpster fire, nuts and bolts is the best. this is the official ranking
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Jun 3, 2019 01:37
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Tooie is better because it is the point where Rare said "gently caress it!" and created a fully labeled warp menu after iterating on BK's awful matching color pots and DK64's still not great matching number pads. DK64 is probably the best speedgame because the glitching bullshit is incredible. Using grenades to cause slowdown but move faster since the game compensates 
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Jun 3, 2019 01:37
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banjo tooie still ranks as one of the most miserable experiences ive ever had with a videogame, the only good thing about it is the music
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Jun 3, 2019 01:37
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Johnny Joestar posted:alexandria ocasio-cortex That was a RARE games stream not a crash bandicoot stream fyi
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Jun 3, 2019 01:46
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I remember getting Banjo Tooie and being disgusted by the fact that the honeycombs in your healthbar were arranged in a straight line instead of the zig-zag from the original game, it was such a turn-off that I refused to play the game.
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Jun 3, 2019 01:52
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Odd posted:That was a RARE games stream not a crash bandicoot stream fyi gently caress, auto-correct really got me good there
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Jun 3, 2019 01:55
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Rubellavator posted:I remember getting Banjo Tooie and being disgusted by the fact that the honeycombs in your healthbar were arranged in a straight line instead of the zig-zag from the original game, it was such a turn-off that I refused to play the game. now that you mention it that is pretty egregious
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Jun 3, 2019 01:56
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i legit don't remember anything about tooie.
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Jun 3, 2019 01:56
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absolutely anything posted:nuts and bolts is the best banjo it's the best banjo game by default because it is good whereas the n64 games are really, really loving bad
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Jun 3, 2019 02:13
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Groovelord Neato posted:i legit don't remember anything about tooie. Bottles got super murdered, and then his bootcamp brother taught you all your new skills, and sometimes when he was done teaching you he would dive back into his hole but the cover would close so he'd bonk his head on the lid instead of gracefully diving straight back down. DEEP STATE PLOT posted:it's the best banjo game by default because it is good whereas the n64 games are really, really loving bad
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Jun 3, 2019 02:33
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The best Banjo game is playing as Banjo in Diddy Kong Racing
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Jun 3, 2019 03:59
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Captain Invictus posted:Bottles got super murdered, and then his bootcamp brother taught you all your new skills, and sometimes when he was done teaching you he would dive back into his hole but the cover would close so he'd bonk his head on the lid instead of gracefully diving straight back down.
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Jun 3, 2019 04:15
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Tooie is better because it is the point where Rare said "gently caress it!" and created a fully labeled warp menu after iterating on BK's awful matching color pots and DK64's still not great matching number pads. Shoutout to the run a year or so ago where they got the whole crowd to go aahhhhhhhh baaannnaannnaaaa for every banana Also I feel like I'm the only one who loves Tooie  Collectathons are my weakness.
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Jun 3, 2019 04:23
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DACK FAYDEN posted:also this is total rng so speedruns lose or gain seconds based on the number of jamjars bonks Yeah it rules
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Jun 3, 2019 04:25
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All collectathons fuckin' suck and the only good thing that came out of them were Trans Rights.
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Jun 3, 2019 04:26
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Feldegast42 posted:Also I feel like I'm the only one who loves Tooie No I love Tooie also. The only Rare like collectathon I don't like is Yooka-Laylee
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Jun 3, 2019 04:40
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Nuts and Bolts is the best Banjo game unless that thing on the gameboy color was good
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Jun 3, 2019 04:57
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Feldegast42 posted:Shoutout to the run a year or so ago where they got the whole crowd to go aahhhhhhhh baaannnaannnaaaa for every banana oh that sounded so wrong as i read it. it's "ohhhhh banana", did you even play the game???? you honeycomb-in-a-line loving bastard
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Jun 3, 2019 05:34
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Banjo-Tooie lined up the health bar, made you turn in hollow honeycombs to an NPC before they did anything, and Banjo doesn't even dance when he gets a Jiggy. Is there no end to this game's sins?! ...And other things that bothered about the game as a kid. Unless they were catering to speedrunners, which I doubt, there was no reason to cut out the dance.
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Jun 3, 2019 05:48
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DACK FAYDEN posted:also this is total rng so speedruns lose or gain seconds based on the number of jamjars bonks speed running is so loving good you guys
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Jun 3, 2019 07:15
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Dias posted:All collectathons fuckin' suck and the only good thing that came out of them were Trans Rights. Excuse me the PS1 Spyro games fuckin' rule  Both as games an as Speedruns.
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Jun 3, 2019 11:58
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the spyro games are great and had just the right amount of collectibles none of this applies to enter the dragonfly, though. don't talk about that one.
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Jun 3, 2019 14:38
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my favorite spyro is the one with bowser and donkey kong
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Jun 3, 2019 15:17
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https://twitter.com/Succinct_Punchy/status/1135428540789342208 i don't NEED a co-op partner to beat a co-op time! nyeh. not that was ever really the question, but still, better performance here. Can't be grouching.
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Jun 3, 2019 16:37
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Punchy in his eternal quest to make people stop having fun in speedrunning. "no you don't need a friend"
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Jun 3, 2019 16:41
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spyro and crash sucked rear end except spyro enter the dragon or w/e and crash bash
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Jun 3, 2019 17:20
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Johnny Joestar posted:the spyro games are great and had just the right amount of collectibles Hey now it's a good speed game just for how broken it is.
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Jun 3, 2019 17:50
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Kikas posted:Excuse me the PS1 Spyro games fuckin' rule the only good collectathons are the ps1 spyro games and the 3d mario games. the rest of the genre is complete gutter trash.
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Jun 3, 2019 18:05
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Electric Phantasm posted:Hey now it's a good speed game just for how broken it is. i actually find it super boring if an any% speedrun is only like 5 minutes because someone can clip right into the final boss fight immediately, but your mileage may vary on that
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Jun 3, 2019 18:21
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heeheex2 posted:spyro and crash sucked rear end except spyro enter the dragon or w/e and crash bash 1/10
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Jun 3, 2019 19:10
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Johnny Joestar posted:i actually find it super boring if an any% speedrun is only like 5 minutes because someone can clip right into the final boss fight immediately, but your mileage may vary on that I think a run like that may be only be good viewing once for the "woah drat" factor and not much else after that. And that's fine, not every run has to be super rewatchable.
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Jun 3, 2019 19:18
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Johnny Joestar posted:i actually find it super boring if an any% speedrun is only like 5 minutes because someone can clip right into the final boss fight immediately, but your mileage may vary on that Super fast speedruns like this are what got me into watching speedruns in the first place. I don't have time to watch a 3+ hour video but I am super interested in spending hours reading the technicalities behind a 5 minute TAS.
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