Colonel Cancer posted:

Idk if you think about it this guy is worse than like Osama. Maybe even Hitler.

Jose posted:

Can't corner the dorner

b-minus1 posted:

Next years killdozer day is canceled

Shut up Meg posted:

Oh yes: man was a shithead for sure, but you can't argue he made a hell of a machine.

Does make me think: there have been a few cases of people going postal with armoured machines, including tanks. Are there plans in place to stop them the next time it happens? Do Ponch and Jon have javelin missiles in their motocycle panniers?

fakeaccount posted:

Today is a special day. June 4th 2018 marks the 14th anniversary of the Killdozer's rampage through Granby Colorado.

Sit down kids and let me tell you a tale, about a reasonable man driven to do unreasonable things.

Marvin Heemeyer was a man who owned a muffler shop in Granby Colorado. The city council ordained to approve the construction of a concrete factory in the lot across from Marvin's shop. In the process this blocked the only access road to the muffler shop. Marvin petitioned to stop the construction to no avail. Petitioned to construct a new access road, and even bought the heavy machinery to do so himself. Denied.

The concrete factory went up in disregard to the ramifications on Marvin's business. To add insult to injury, the factory construction disconnected the muffler shop from the city sewage lines. An indifferent city government then chose to fine Marvin for this.

His business and livelihood were in ruin. Rather than lie down and die, Marvin chose to fight back. Over the course of a year and a half Marvin secretly outfitted the bulldozer he bought to save his business with three foot thick steel and concrete armor, camera systems guarded with bulletproof glass.

On June 4th 2004 Marvin Heemeyer lowered the armored shell over top of himself, entombing himself inside the Killdozer to make his last stand.
He burst fourth from the walls of his muffler shop and straight into the concrete factory that ruined his business. Over the course of the next several hours Marvin drove his Killdozer through 13 buildings owned by those officials that had wronged him, including the city council building itself.

Swat teams swarmed the dozer, but it proved immune to small arms fire and even explosives. Another piece of heavy machinery was even brought out to fight the Killdozer, but it too fell to the dozers righteous fury.

In the end, Marvin's Killdozer became trapped in one of the buildings it was built to destroy. Marvin chose to take his life, the only life he took that day.

Today we celebrate Killdozer day and Marvin Heemeyer, the last great American folk hero. A man driven to the brink who chose to fight back against an indifferent system.

From notes left behind after his passing:
"I was always willing to be reasonable until I had to be unreasonable. Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things."

When injustice becomes the law, resistance becomes duty

Shut up Meg posted:

Oh yes: man was a shithead for sure, but you can't argue he made a hell of a machine.

Colonel Cancer posted:

This forums dark libertarian past is showing

Waffle! posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGTF_1J_Rvs

W E L C O M E . B R I G A D O R

sweet thursday posted:

A lot of us were kids with misplaced aggression and a hatred for authority. Now we're tired old men that don't agree with his reasoning but can drink a beer to his methods

MightyJoe36 posted:

Dude in San Diego stole a tank from the Army National Guard. Ended up being shot by a cop who crawled up on the turret and opened up the hatch.

eighty-four merc posted:

one of my favorite details of the killdozer is he plumbed air hoses to nozzles facing the camera lens covers to remove debris that would have blocked them during the rampage.

Senor Dog posted:

I’ll drink a beer to anything

Big Dick Cheney posted:

The dozer overheated because the engine wasn't powerful enough.

quote:

Also he didn't weld himself in

eighty-four merc posted:

so next guy needs to, what, use a bigger dozer, relocate the radiator, probably install additional/upgraded cooling fans, water jets to spray the radiator fins, an intercooler, w/m injection, maybe slot the plating to accomodate the air flow, put a smaller pulley on the water pump, not get high centered in a basement, idk what i'm missing but i'm sure more improvements could get made

Shut up Meg posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvl_7_Up7zU

Poop really plays a central role in this story.

eighty-four merc posted:

one of my favorite details of the killdozer is he plumbed air hoses to nozzles facing the camera lens covers to remove debris that would have blocked them during the rampage. armoring the exhaust stack, welding himself in, rifle ports, etc--dude really took into account a lot of design considerations most crazy people would have overlooked.

i wonder how the radiator blew. unless he really just didn't adequately protect the undercarriage and it got ripped open, which is how it looks and is also how it was reported. a shame really. i hope the next guy relocates the radiator

truly a remarkable achievement in redneck engineering, regardless

Riatsala posted:

I recently had workplace active shooter training lead by a swat officer who responded to Columbine, Aurora, and the Granby Killdozer. He lamented, as all cops do, about the destruction of private property that happened that day.

During the talk he stressed the importance of paying attention to people's behavior and the role that plays in preventing shootings. By way of example, he said that the Granby dude would, for the entire time he was working on the killdozer, respond to "what are you up to today?" with "building my coffin" and no one was ever thought "huh, that's a weird loving thing for a publicly aggrieved person to say" and like... ask him if he's alright.

eighty-four merc posted:

oh i didn't know he lowered the enclosure over himself. that's pretty sick tbh

MightyJoe36 posted:

Dude in San Diego stole a tank from the Army National Guard. Ended up being shot by a cop who crawled up on the turret and opened up the hatch.

Shut up Meg posted:

I know the US military has the 'made by the lowest bidder' mindset, but I am guessing that most tanks can't be defeated by opening a door handle and shooting the driver with a pistol.

Cessna posted:

Hatches are locked from the inside. There's a handle that swings in to close the hatch, and you lock it by swinging a little bar in place to keep it from being pulled open. If you've got a crowbar and a bit of time it would be possible to break it open. (Don't count on doing this in combat; if you get near a tank it will call "scratch my back" over the radio and every other tank nearby will spray it with machinegun fire to keep the enemy away/off of the tank.)


Edit: Video of the stolen tank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmFiZoe-7P4

skooma512 posted:

What about molotovs?

skooma512 posted:

I also remember a scene in I think, Saving Private Ryan, where they opened a German tank's hatch and shot everyone inside, but that was A. a movie B. if it happened they got lucky because someone forgot to lock it I guess.

Cessna posted:

Cessna posted:

Hatches are locked from the inside. There's a handle that swings in to close the hatch, and you lock it by swinging a little bar in place to keep it from being pulled open. If you've got a crowbar and a bit of time it would be possible to break it open.

Cessna posted:

(Don't count on doing this in combat; if you get near a tank it will call "scratch my back" over the radio and every other tank nearby will spray it with machinegun fire to keep the enemy away/off of the tank.)

Cessna posted:

Also, you don't always want your hatches locked - what if you have to get out in a hurry?