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I did not mean to misquote him by putting”all” I was on my phone. I was simply pointing out that the people he was calling scum were different (except Hal) than the those he wants to dunk
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Mr. Humalong posted:UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH my vote on Jen is 25 hours from my last post. Also you acting like changing opinion on re-read is something suspicious, but wouldn't you also agree that I kind of had no opinion prior to my posts about Jen? I've been coasting because I had been lurking, and if I was on some dribbling meltdown, wouldn't shifting defensive suspicion fit that bill. You're acting like these are new concepts to you, but you're no rookie anymore.
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Jun 12, 2019 21:56
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b-minus1 posted:I did not mean to misquote him by putting”all” I was on my phone. I was simply pointing out that the people he was calling scum were different (except Hal) than the those he wants to dunk my statement wasn't meant to accuse anyone of being scum, since it included literally everyone except 2 players. i said it partly to case siv and pmuch as town, but mostly to explain why i think votes have been stagnant
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Jun 12, 2019 21:58
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:my vote on Jen is 25 hours from my last post. I quoted all of your scum call-outs from day 3 like 10 posts up
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Jun 12, 2019 21:59
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Mr. Humalong posted:I quoted all of your scum call-outs from day 3 like 10 posts up I saw, and my response is, my vote on jen is 25 hours from my last post.
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Jun 12, 2019 22:00
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I saw, and my response is, my vote on jen is 25 hours from my last post. oh word you're right you didn't post at all for 25 hours Mr. Humalong posted:people I wouldn't vote today: Fixed
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Jun 12, 2019 22:03
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Mr. Humalong posted:oh word you're right you didn't post at all for 25 hours much appreciated hombre, I just like the record to stand true. 
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Jun 12, 2019 22:05
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b-minus1 posted:I did not mean to misquote him by putting”all” I was on my phone. I was simply pointing out that the people he was calling scum were different (except Hal) than the those he wants to dunk Okay, fair enough. Do you have a specific reason for thinking tomm's vote on steak was noteworthy, or is that more of a hunch? For now I'm willing to ##unvote Ugh I am also phone posting and bbcode is such a huge pain in the rear end.
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Jun 12, 2019 23:09
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If I were scum I would prioritize killing the more active players in game, unless I thought someone had breadcrumbed a town pr. Based on tommunists posts it looked like he had a scum result on steak. Obviously that wasn’t the case, and anyone else is welcome to speculate about other reasons scum elected to kill tomm
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Jun 12, 2019 23:25
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b-minus1 posted:If I were scum I would prioritize killing the more active players in game, unless I thought someone had breadcrumbed a town pr. Based on tommunists posts it looked like he had a scum result on steak. Obviously that wasn’t the case, and anyone else is welcome to speculate about other reasons scum elected to kill tomm that kind of speculation is probably pointless because it leads into a wine cellar, but if what you're saying is "tommunist thought steak was scum and he's town, and died", that's as good a point as any also on an entirely different note, assuming I do get executed when the bad avatar crew (AA and steak) grab vienna and a few buddies to jump on me, the reason I think gulag is town is because he (and cpig before him) has been in an unconfirmed masonry (at least from my end) with me from d1, and has used it for absolutely nothing beyond jokes no attempted manipulation besides gulag declaring figurative jihad against aa before declaring a mistake, and, like, there's scum laziness and then there's town laziness
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Jun 12, 2019 23:50
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when I die the scumteam will be omg, steak, and poor, sweet hal or vienna, aa, and, still, poor, beloved hal who I'm going to vote for ##vote Hal because I deeply distrust the intent of his leading questions and think he's been dodging commitment to avoid suspicion
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Jun 12, 2019 23:52
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I am going to place my vote on steak, thus killing him.
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Jun 13, 2019 00:43
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GulagDolls posted:I am going to place my vote on steak, thus killing him. 👍
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spacing in vienna posted:3 - his case on steak is "I bet scum thought tomm was a cop, since tomm voted for steak." I asked him what about tomm's vote jumped out at him as special -- several people voted steak D2, why would tomm be the one that scum would peg as cop? That wasn't shade; that was a legitimate question, because it's possible b- saw something about the way tomm voted that was different from the other pushes on steak D2. But I wouldn't know because this is yet another question he won't answer. b-minus1 posted:I think scum killed tommunist because they thought he was cop and had a scum result on mr steak. He really only posted reads on AA, who he did not really want to lunch, and Mr steak. Ended day with a vote on mr steak.Will quote relevant posts when I’m on my computer tomorrow
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Jun 13, 2019 00:50
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Mikujin posted:"Hell yeah let's vote anyone whose not me." whats wrong wit hthat
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Jun 13, 2019 00:59
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Mr. Humalong posted:people I wouldn't vote today: I'm going to say it. I read this post and agreed with it.
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Jun 13, 2019 01:00
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Mr. Humalong posted:binus is an extremely stubborn player who routinely refuses to engage with the game beyond quoting effortposts about him and replying with "lol" Mr. Steak posted:the jen vote only got a tiny bit of traction BECAUSE of me lol Hal Incandenza posted:Omg I can’t believe I mixed up the games I was in AGAIN Jen X posted:when I die the scumteam will be omg, steak, and poor, sweet hal GulagDolls posted:I am going to place my vote on steak, thus killing him.
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Jun 13, 2019 01:04
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Ok well now I'm not going to.
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Jun 13, 2019 01:06
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Mikujin posted:Based on anything more than gut feeling/righteous indignation? This vote looks lovely. I mean, there's a reason I asked him why he wasn't voting but instead casting aspersions like a day or two ago (time in this game is very strange) because hesitance to commit to a particular course of action while trying to muddle the waters, and a sense of a vote as something best kept to yourself and not used to apply pressure, is a hallmark of a whole lot of scumplay, especially in cases where the player is semi-lurking and avoiding attention that way if "this is a general trend I'm aware of with scum players, very much including my past self in multiple games, and Hal seems to be falling into this pattern, so logically Hal is more likely to be scum than an analysis made prior would show" is "gut", then, uh, okay?
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Jun 13, 2019 01:09
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GulagDolls posted:Ok well now I'm not going to. I am beginning to wonder at this other level that you are playing mafia at. It does not seem to be a very good level. Perhaps you can find a staircase, and try a different level?
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Jun 13, 2019 01:11
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rephrase your post in the form of words and I may decide to respond.
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Jun 13, 2019 01:16
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if anyone has the power to kill hal by shoving a statue onto him or something, please do so
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Jun 13, 2019 01:17
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GulagDolls posted:if anyone has the power to kill hal by shoving a statue onto him or something, please do so you do it coward bet you won't
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Jun 13, 2019 01:21
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Just to remind everyone where we're currently at: I will  not be available at deadline (I will be able to check-in briefly about an hour prior, however).
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Jun 13, 2019 01:27
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Jen X posted:I mean, there's a reason I asked him why he wasn't voting but instead casting aspersions like a day or two ago (time in this game is very strange) This is a reasonable take on Hal. Was there a reason you cast aspersions on OMG and Mr. Steak, as well? Again, lack of content and context makes it hard to read into anything beyond surface level.
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Jun 13, 2019 01:29
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mikujin, i called jen out on d1 for acting scummy, and in fact i've only ever voted for 3 different people this entire game. i'm not calling my game more than mediocre but i'd like you to stop trying to invalidate me with weak claims like being wishy-washy or jumping on any vote that looks fine
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Jun 13, 2019 01:43
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Mikujin posted:Alright, I somehow totally missed this post: Yeah i never had a chance to do that
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Jun 13, 2019 01:44
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K I'm leaving for a bit but I'll be back in an hour or two max and from then I'll be on for deadline.
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Jun 13, 2019 01:44
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Mikujin posted:This is a reasonable take on Hal. omg, I voted for before and have seen exactly zero since said vote to change my weakly formed opinion mr steak is flailing at me and aa in a way that looks more like desperate desire for survival rather than genuine interest in finding scum, I think humalong is town for engaging w/the game a ton, my general townread list is close to the same as it was before for the same reasons as then (you, pmush, gulag porcine, binus,) vienna is entirely a gut call, and omg is on aa so he's probably not coaligned with him if one of them is scum (and steak is flailing at aa so they're also probably not coaligned scum) which leaves the 2 hypothetical 3 person teams I posted about could be 4 scum and steak or vienna are also baddies, I'd guess vienna in that case because steak's flailing, while not a town indicator, seems genuinely opportunistic and death bussing a scumbuddy in this way would be a very weird move but I'm looking askance at hal more than anyone, and he doesn't require impromptu scumteam worldbuilding gymnastics to hazily consider evil
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Jun 13, 2019 01:45
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i once again reiterate my demand for the cowards aa and mr steak to change their avatars
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Jun 13, 2019 01:47
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buy me a gift cert, you coward. also explain how i have been flailing? besides putting actual effort into the thread once i'm at risk of dying. I explained clearly why i voted aa out of necessity, and then i switched to you (jen) who i've been voting since d1. did all of you forget that? please check
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Jun 13, 2019 01:50
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Mikujin posted:This is a reasonable take on Hal. The problem with her take is that I had been gone for most of the last day and a half of in-game time and I showed up and made half serious half joke post about how was steak still alive after all the heat in him since D1. It’s not like I made a giant case or had spent many posts recently casting aspersions. I am sure if I showed up and just voted steak after saying nothing for days someone would have called THAT scummy Jen jumped on the first post I made with the most basic scum case of all (said someone was bad and didn’t immediately vote them) and had nothing to follow up with or add to that read. It felt like someone jumping on low hanging fruit. And her further explanation that I was “muddying the waters and committing is kind of empty since steak had plenty of heat and was the main focus so there was no water to muddy and steak didn’t need another vote at that moment to really make him a focus. If I had made a series of posts and then said that about steak and left without voting that would be one thing, but to jump on me for not voting on one of the first (or actually the first) post I made on a game day is just kind of BS
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Jun 13, 2019 01:53
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Mr. Steak posted:buy me a gift cert, you coward. voting aa "out of necessity" is flailing, friendo
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I'm caught up and while I think some of the above cases folks have made have merit, particularly against bminus and hal, i'm still confident AA is scum, and also confident that of the people with heat, AA is the one whose town flip would give us the most info also, and this goes for both AA and Steak, being at -2 or -1 doesn't mean a thing if people are lurking. if anything, it softly supports the hypothesis of them both being scum, since there's fewer available people who will consider cases against them in earnest. i'd be willing to bet, assuming there's 4 scum, there's one scum vote on each of them and the other two are somewhere among the others
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ok jen this is semantics, but what you're calling flailing isn't a scum tell. for one, any unsure town vote towards deadline is essentially "out of necessity" and also trying ti prevent a confirmed townie (oneself) from getting lynched at any cost isnt exactly bad gameplay
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OMGVBFLOL posted:. i'd be willing to bet, assuming there's 4 scum, there's one scum vote on each of them and the other two are somewhere among the others i wrote the above having last looked at the votecount and seeing it at 4 and 4. taking some time to reread some folks
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I'm going to bed now but I will probably be up for a little while longer if we decide someone is a better flip than Steak. I'm heavily leaning Steak, but would be ok with AA or maaaaaaaaybe Hal (distant third option for me).
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Jun 13, 2019 02:03
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Mr. Steak posted:ok jen this is semantics, but what you're calling flailing isn't a scum tell. for one, any unsure town vote towards deadline is essentially "out of necessity" and also trying ti prevent a confirmed townie (oneself) from getting lynched at any cost isnt exactly bad gameplay I was just typing up this post
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it's looking likely that i'm gonna be the "prevent a nolynch" death today. i hope i put in the effort to make my flip worth it for you guys. i think there's a lot of stuff you can read into
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Mr. Steak posted:it's looking likely that i'm gonna be the "prevent a nolynch" death today. i hope i put in the effort to make my flip worth it for you guys. i think there's a lot of stuff you can read into 3 hours is a lot of time. Work your magic steak
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