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Has is been mentioned anywhere if ray tracing is going to be in cyberpunk? Probably not, but imagine how good it would look with it.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Has is been mentioned anywhere if ray tracing is going to be in cyberpunk? Probably not, but imagine how good it would look with it. ThatsBait.gif
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Jun 13, 2019 12:55
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Has is been mentioned anywhere if ray tracing is going to be in cyberpunk? Probably not, but imagine how good it would look with it. I'll go out on a limb and say no since it's on the current generation of consoles, but if it's also coming out on PC it's possible that either the devs (unlikely) or modders (very likely) will create some CPU-melting ray tracing updates
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Wicked Them Beats posted:There's a gang called the Brady Bunch. It's what it sounds like it is. Fighting the Seinfeld, Frasier and Home Improvement gangs will be wild.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Has is been mentioned anywhere if ray tracing is going to be in cyberpunk? Probably not, but imagine how good it would look with it. 
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Jun 13, 2019 12:57
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Jun 13, 2019 13:00
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Lol at the thread score going from 4 to 2.
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Jun 13, 2019 13:00
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I mean its probably the most circular discussion happening in this sub ATM it’s not surprising. The idea that a developer has to accumulate an inventory of goodwill to try and explore or express something artistically is BONKERS. Like how sad is it that we have an actual dev from The Witcher 3 and Cyberdong 2069 but they’ve only popped in twice in the last year just to say that they can’t post here because it’s just a dumpster fire of shitslinging and arguments being made in bad faith?
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Jun 13, 2019 13:05
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doingitwrong posted:Yes. Very much so. Here is Gibson in 2001 reflecting on 20 years of mining Japan for ~the future~. And then there is this gem, which is Gibson visiting Singapore in 1993 to interpret it through a cyberpunk author's eyes. DISNEYLAND WITH THE DEATH PENALTY: https://www.wired.com/1993/04/gibson-2/ quote:Was it Laurie Anderson who said that VR would never look real until they learned how to put some dirt in it? Singapore's airport, the Changi Airtropolis, seemed to possess no more resolution than some early VPL world. There was no dirt whatsoever; no muss, no furred fractal edge to things. Outside, the organic, florid as ever in the tropics, had been gardened into brilliant green, and all-too-perfect examples of itself. Only the clouds were feathered with chaos—weird columnar structures towering above the Strait of China. quote:Singapore is a relentlessly G-rated experience, micromanaged by a state that has the look and feel of a very large corporation. If IBM had ever bothered to actually possess a physical country, that country might have had a lot in common with Singapore. There's a certain white-shirted constraint, an absolute humorlessness in the way Singapore Ltd. operates; conformity here is the prime directive, and the fuzzier brands of creativity are in extremely short supply.
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Jun 13, 2019 13:15
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Bust Rodd posted:The idea that a developer has to accumulate an inventory of goodwill to try and explore or express something artistically is BONKERS. They don't have to accumulate an inventory of goodwill to try and explore or express something, but they absolutely need to not have accumulated previous ill will if they want people to give them the benefit of the doubt when they display a borderline offensive take on a topic. CDPR have a track record of lovely takes on trans issues, and it's really bizarre anyone is surprised that trans people aren't exactly immediately sold by the art director trying to brush the issue off as being okay in context. Maybe it will be! I'm not gonna pre-emptively boycott the game based on what I've seen so far. But I'm also not inclined to just take their word on how they've actually got a better and more nuanced portrayal of trans people in the game when they have completely failed to actually show any of that, but instead opted for displaying the fetishy chick-with-a-dick advert center screen in one of their big promo screenshots.
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Jun 13, 2019 13:20
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It's a game where you shoot people with neon guns.
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Jun 13, 2019 13:29
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The_White_Crane posted:I'm not gonna pre-emptively boycott the game based on what I've seen so far. boycott modern warfare 2.jpg
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Jun 13, 2019 13:32
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Voting with your wallet has literally never worked in the history of video games.
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it worked for artifact, lol
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That's because the most vocal people on the internet do not represent the larger customer base "internet people" are always in too deep
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Jun 13, 2019 13:44
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Bust Rodd posted:I mean its probably the most circular discussion happening in this sub ATM it’s not surprising. TBF Comte can't tell us anything anyways. They usually don't talk about CDPR beyond vague generalities and anything interesting is under fifty layers of embargo. Whatever cool behind the scenes insights you're hoping for aren't on offer regardless. And if the attempt to explore something artistically touches on members of an extremely maligned and exploited group, then people are going to question whether you're doing it right it or if your attempt at art is just one more instance of exploitation, and that's a fair question for discussion. Yeah it's circular and we lack all the info we need but that's also the case if you're debating what your favorite cyberarm implants are. We know virtually nothing about the game at this point.
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Jun 13, 2019 13:49
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Collapsing Farts posted:That's because the most vocal people on the internet do not represent the larger customer base Once you realize this and start applying it to most Twitter/Youtube comments, life because a helluva lot easier to live.
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Jun 13, 2019 13:49
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Has is been mentioned anywhere if ray tracing is going to be in cyberpunk? Probably not, but imagine how good it would look with it.  I’m assuming  But if it’s not specifically this reference it’s kind of an amazing accidental one
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Jun 13, 2019 13:59
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Both quote and screenshot is from https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/cyberpunk-2077-nvidia-partnership-ray-tracing/ by the way - the screenshot that started this 10000 post debate
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Jun 13, 2019 14:02
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Who knew people were so passionate about ray tracing
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Jun 13, 2019 14:04
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Jabor posted:it worked for artifact, lol Didn’t Artifact have a uniquely lovely P2W model, like the game cost money to play but then buying cards also cost money? I’ve been playing Magic my entire life and everyone talks about Artifact like it was DOA. Wicked Them Beats posted:Who knew people were so passionate about ray tracing Ray Tracing is actually the name of the model on the Mix-It-Up poster, we’ve all been had!
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Jun 13, 2019 14:04
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Ugato posted:
um..It was a coincidence. I was wondering why people were getting so mad at my post. I just wanted to know if I should consider saving up for a new monitor/graphics card.
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Jun 13, 2019 14:12
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Ray's got a pretty big schlong
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Jun 13, 2019 14:17
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ufarn posted:So, without getting into spoilers, don't you basically get to pick an idol during character creation where you can choose between three people: Good, Neutral, Evil, with Silverhand being on the Good end of the spectrum? That's how it used to be at least. I thought the three heros were anticorp / neutral / corp like the third guy is a "corporate god" right there on the selection screen. I will be interested to see if your hero pick changes your initial loadout. If you pick "corp god" or "solo of fortune" you maybe won't have the silverhand jacket we've seen so far.
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Jun 13, 2019 14:23
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CharlestonJew posted:Ray's got a pretty big schlong Hell yeah he can still sport wood!
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Jun 13, 2019 14:26
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SniperWoreConverse posted:I thought the three heros were anticorp / neutral / corp I feel like picking a corp hero would have to mandate you start the game dressed in a cheap cybersuit with equally tacky shades.
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Jun 13, 2019 14:27
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SniperWoreConverse posted:I thought the three heros were anticorp / neutral / corp Yeah, but in this setting corporations are 1,000% evil. Just like real life. 
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Jun 13, 2019 14:27
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I could easily see picking corp in character creation edging your rep far enough in the other direction to make early situations like the 45 minute demo play out differently.
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Jun 13, 2019 14:27
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I don't know who this Ray Tracing guy is supposed to be but there's enough celebrity cameos in this game already.
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Jun 13, 2019 14:31
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SniperWoreConverse posted:I thought the three heros were anticorp / neutral / corp I'd actually be really interesting if they cast actors for all three of these people, especially Morgan Blackhand (the Solo of Fortune). I don't think it's ever been stated what he actually looks like, because the dude is just so good at staying untraceable. The closest description to him is Mike Pondsmith commentating that he thinks Morgan would be an older white guy, the kind that can instantly blend in anywhere; even right after garroting some poor bastard in the middle of a street.
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Jun 13, 2019 14:33
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Bust Rodd posted:I mean its probably the most circular discussion happening in this sub ATM it’s not surprising. After they made a lovely joke on Twitter and have shown exactly two trans characters thus far, one of which was a drug dealing ped and the other a pretty poo poo ad, yeah, they need good will if they want to talk about trans issues. Just going "No it's okay, gender discrimination doesn't happen in this world" isn't good enough, because if that were the case, we'd be seeing more characters across the spectrum in the game world and as players in the story. Saying the world is inclusive but doing nothing to show that is lazy and lovely.
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JBP posted:I feel like picking a corp hero would have to mandate you start the game dressed in a cheap cybersuit with equally tacky shades. same, it would have a heavy sony diskman type aesthetic instead of leather with those aircraft / mic style interconnects on the glowing collar. Like if this fuckin thing were clothes. Maybe one of the earlier more audiophile looking versions.   sean10mm posted:Yeah, but in this setting corporations are 1,000% evil.  Orange Crush Rush posted:I'd actually be really interesting if they cast actors for all three of these people, especially Morgan Blackhand (the Solo of Fortune). I don't think it's ever been stated what he actually looks like, because the dude is just so good at staying untraceable. The closest description to him is Mike Pondsmith commentating that he thinks Morgan would be an older white guy, the kind that can instantly blend in anywhere; even right after garroting some poor bastard in the middle of a street. It'd be cool but i'd really be surprised if they did. It'd basically be making 3 main quests, wouldn't it? Seems like having the other guys actually show up would have a shitload of a difference on the story, unless they played it out right.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:um..It was a coincidence. I was wondering why people were getting so mad at my post. I just wanted to know if I should consider saving up for a new monitor/graphics card. They’re specifically working with nvidia on improving ray tracing tech, so yeah probably worth getting a new card for.
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CascadeBeta posted:After they made a lovely joke on Twitter and have shown exactly two trans characters thus far, one of which was a drug dealing ped and the other a pretty poo poo ad, yeah, they need good will if they want to talk about trans issues. Just going "No it's okay, gender discrimination doesn't happen in this world" isn't good enough, because if that were the case, we'd be seeing more characters across the spectrum in the game world and as players in the story. Saying the world is inclusive but doing nothing to show that is lazy and lovely. It's one screenshot and they fired the idiot community guy. The artist explained the ad. I don't know what else you want they're not going to release the game 9 months early to try and justify a tech screenshot of an escalator. E: also everyone should probably strap in, this world is going to be full of discrimination against everything because it's cyberpunk. JBP fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Jun 13, 2019 |
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If I can’t name my genderfluid hacker-mantis Ray Tracing then this game is the pinnacle failure of our society.
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JBP posted:It's one screenshot and they fired the idiot community guy. The artist explained the ad. I don't know what else you want they're not going to release the game 9 months early to try and justify a tech screenshot of an escalator. You can't just gleefully engage in the same behavior you're satirizing and call it a day. That's just bigotry.
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^^ Exactly!JBP posted:It's one screenshot and they fired the idiot community guy. The artist explained the ad. I don't know what else you want they're not going to release the game 9 months early to try and justify a tech screenshot of an escalator. I've said what I want: if the game is truly inclusive becaus their game world doesn't discriminate against trans and nonbinary characters, then there should be characters across the gender spectrum everywhere in the game world and in the preview footage they've shown. But there aren't, it's a lot of telling but not a lot of showing which makes me feel like it's PR spin and not actually genuine. I'd love to be proven wrong, but nothing I've seen so far gives me hope. It's not that we're discriminated against, it's that we're invisible outside of a hypersexualized ad and a drug dealer.
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Pylons posted:You can't just gleefully engage in the same behavior you're satirizing and call it a day. That's just bigotry. Is that what's happening? I don't know if that's what's happening. The artist, as usual these days, has had to come out and defend/explain their work. I'll just take them at their word that it's part of the setting's corporate criticism until I see the game and learn otherwise.
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How do you know who's trans and not, it's not like they wear a little trans-flag on their sleeve to indicate it
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CascadeBeta posted:^^ Exactly! How would you tell who is trans and who isn't in their gameplay demo?
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