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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I haven't played since December when a death in the family derailed video gaming time. Does this still suck?

Should I wait until the new NPC updates before jumping back in? There were 9k unread posts in my bookmark for this thread. Surely they can't all be people bitching about Fallout 76.

EDIT: a shameful snipe.

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chaosapiant
Oct 10, 2012

White Line Fever

Speaking of ATOM, how is Underrail as far as throw back RPGs go? I have it in my GOG collection but never got passed the tutorial. Is it like Fallout 1 where there are trap builds and what not? And wasn't an expansion pack released for it?

Krispy Wafer posted:

I haven't played since December when a death in the family derailed video gaming time. Does this still suck?

Just wanted to say condolences.

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

Admiral Joeslop posted:

There are mods.

The rest is correct.

So there are, although I see it's basically limited to graphical, inventory, and audio tweaks. FO4 but worse and with limited modding.

edit: Also the nuclear power plant should have been a legit group event, not a midsized FO4 dungeon with the world's most generous time limit. None of the public events I hosed with at all felt like I needed the extra help. Even the one that I failed out on was because of lag, not because we were in any sense being overwhelmed. Maybe there's some legit poo poo later on but a multiplayer game should have that baked in from the start, not me playing a single player game near other people.

TGLT fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Jun 13, 2019

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider

Southpaugh posted:

I want to apologize to everyone for bringing up ATOM, I didn't know it had such a particularly gross bit of antisemitism in it.

And I'm apologizing in advance to everyone for digging more deeply into it.

So I went to visit the book merchant in the game last night, and not only does it repeatedly have him rubbing his hands together but when you trade with him, he will neevr give you more than a ruble for any item in the game. He's the first cities book merchant, I expect to be able to sell all my recipes and poo poo back to him. His wares are also higher in price and the way the economy works he'll end up with a lot of hard currency in his inventory that you won't be able to access.

IT's tremendously lovely. It's one thing to have a depiction that you can pass off as a tasteless lovely joke and another to apply this stereotype to your character entire interactions with him. I'm think I'm going to write an annoyed review somewhere.

Good idea, don’t be too hard on yourself. I haven’t played the game and didn’t know that detail, but had recommended it based on hearing the gameplay was good. I can at least go ahead and take it off my wishlist now.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Yes, do not be too hard on yourself for the the comment "has anyone played ATOM?".

We forgive you.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

chaosapiant posted:

Just wanted to say condolences.

At least it kept me from playing more Fallout 76.

chaosapiant
Oct 10, 2012

White Line Fever

Krispy Wafer posted:

At least it kept me from playing more Fallout 76.

That's probably unintentionally the sickest burn on F76 that will ever be said. Well done!

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

chaosapiant posted:

Speaking of ATOM, how is Underrail as far as throw back RPGs go? I have it in my GOG collection but never got passed the tutorial. Is it like Fallout 1 where there are trap builds and what not? And wasn't an expansion pack released for it?

I played it about 60% of the way through before losing interest. It's alright, but there are definitely builds that are a lot worse than others. The crafting system is pretty in depth, but due to how expensive it is to skill up in it, it's not something you can afford to dabble in. Either commit to kitting yourself out in custom gear, or just don't bother at all and use what you can find/buy. Similarly, psionics can be very powerful, but require you build for them to get the most effect.

My only real complaint is that the narrative kind of unravels in the midgame (where I lost interest). I can't say if the endgame gets better.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Krispy Wafer posted:

I haven't played since December when a death in the family derailed video gaming time. Does this still suck?

Should I wait until the new NPC updates before jumping back in? There were 9k unread posts in my bookmark for this thread. Surely they can't all be people bitching about Fallout 76.

EDIT: a shameful snipe.

Eh, I have been dicking around with it with a friend this week: it still has some issues like wierd crashes (once or twice now) but it definitely runs better on my PC now compared to the beta, and I actually think the world is a lot more loving interesting to genuinely explore than Fallout 4. I also think the overall plot is much more interesting than Fallout 4 "MY BABY" though, even without human npcs (and that's honestly not a high bar to clear), so....

Overall it has improved somewhat, at least when I played it in the beta, and most of the bad bugs and dumb duping poo poo seem to have been fixed. If you already own it I can't seem the harm in trying it again. Can't see people paying the full price for it yet though.

TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Jun 13, 2019

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Krispy Wafer posted:

There were 9k unread posts in my bookmark for this thread. Surely they can't all be people bitching about Fallout 76.

EDIT: a shameful snipe.

There were a few bright spots where people talked about the old games and one guy even tried to name an effort towards playing Tactics which was kinda cool :unsmith:

Also 76 added some underground lair or something and people were briefly excited about it being a giant dungeon like the one in Skyrim but it turned out to be for a 10 minute quest I guess?

But other than that, yeah, pretty much.

chaosapiant
Oct 10, 2012

White Line Fever

Wolfsheim posted:

There were a few bright spots where people talked about the old games and one guy even tried to name an effort towards playing Tactics which was kinda cool :unsmith:

Also 76 added some underground lair or something and people were briefly excited about it being a giant dungeon like the one in Skyrim but it turned out to be for a 10 minute quest I guess?

But other than that, yeah, pretty much.

Speaking of Tactics, the game definitely feels pretty drat good in real time mode. I've got 6 characters who just sorta duck-walk around the map inch by inch set up to return fire at any moving thing. Enemies are dying in droves. Pretty cool game!

BillyC
Feb 19, 2013

everythin' under heaven is in utter chaos, cloud


Bread Liar
A small recommendation if you're in the mood for a post-apoc sandbox is Kenshi. Requires a specific kind of brainworm to enjoy ill be honest, its not dialogue heavy or plot based, just a big world that hates you to gently caress around in really. The aesthetic is pretty good and worth checking out imo.

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


El_Elegante posted:

Good idea, don’t be too hard on yourself. I haven’t played the game and didn’t know that detail, but had recommended it based on hearing the gameplay was good. I can at least go ahead and take it off my wishlist now.

The reason I'm apologising is because... I'm not gonna stop playing it, it hits a lot of the right notes and generally is bizarre and russian in a way I particularly enjoy. I made pansexual porno movie with a bunch of mutants and there were no real agenda other than doing something funny and weird. It's just a shame that they'd gently caress up their own work by being racists. I'm a fair bit down the main storyline now so I'll just keep going. It's just conflicting - I will write a review highlighting this though.

BillyC posted:

A small recommendation if you're in the mood for a post-apoc sandbox is Kenshi. Requires a specific kind of brainworm to enjoy ill be honest, its not dialogue heavy or plot based, just a big world that hates you to gently caress around in really. The aesthetic is pretty good and worth checking out imo.

Had this on my wishlist for a long time and would fancy dipping my toe.

BillyC
Feb 19, 2013

everythin' under heaven is in utter chaos, cloud


Bread Liar
Its an interesting game, I bought it back in early access and didn't expect it to become what it is but I'm having a ton of fun with it.

Thread here for more discussion:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3862574&pagenumber=92&perpage=40

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Southpaugh posted:

I made pansexual porno movie with a bunch of mutants and there were no real agenda other than doing something funny and weird.

I think I've heard ATOM brought up at least five times on these forums and this is absolute first time anyone has mentioned even the smallest bit about anything you actually do in the game.


That's a couple of copies sold lol!

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Well you can now buy the PS4 copy of the game from GameFly for $10. Still not worth it.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender

Krispy Wafer posted:

I haven't played since December when a death in the family derailed video gaming time. Does this still suck?

Should I wait until the new NPC updates before jumping back in? There were 9k unread posts in my bookmark for this thread. Surely they can't all be people bitching about Fallout 76.

EDIT: a shameful snipe.

It's meh? If your not at the caps cap(25k caps) and don't have the backpack or done the new short short short quests, then there might be stuff for you to do. Might be better to have caps/backpack/more perks upgrade and know what you want to make legendary when they add the legendary system or other stuff.

It's most likely better than replaying fo4 again still and you will know when you are bored enough to stop.

Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Jun 13, 2019

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
Musk/Howard conversation is live if that's your thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeLS5mFvxlw

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

Krispy Wafer posted:

Surely they can't all be people bitching about Fallout 76.

There was some brief discussion of whether Anthem is worse iirc. Or that might have been the Anthem thread, they kind of blur together.

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

Tenzarin posted:

caps cap(25k caps)

is that a loving joke? edit: loving why. At least individual pieces of equipment have a few different values to track. An integer value is the same size either way.

TGLT fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jun 13, 2019

BMan
Oct 31, 2015

KNIIIIIIFE
EEEEEYYYYE
ATTAAAACK


fallout shelter coming to teslas

BMan
Oct 31, 2015

KNIIIIIIFE
EEEEEYYYYE
ATTAAAACK


lol

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender

TGLT posted:

is that a loving joke?

Yea, if you run a shop and your at the cap you don't get any caps for sales.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Tenzarin posted:

It's meh? If your not at the caps cap(25k caps) and don't have the backpack or done the new short short short quests, then there might be stuff for you to do. Might be better to have caps/backpack/more perks upgrade and know what you want to make legendary when they add the legendary system or other stuff.

It's most likely better than replaying fo4 again still and you will know when you are bored enough to stop.

You could always replay fallout 4 and choose between being a parent who was in the military and uh...being a parent who was a lawyer?

Exciting RPG choices like

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
Too many caps in player inventories probably crashes the server

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
Apparently today's random rear end conference between Todd and Musk was somehow related to the development of Starfield and Todd's recent visit to a SpaceX facility to do some research for it. Haven't been able to watch the video yet (and likely never will since I can only stomach so much smug rear end in a top hat at a time) but a few tidbits of information that did make it out include spaceflight being "dangerous", using H3 as a fuel and Bethesda wanting to take a more hard sci-fi approach to the game. Can't wait to see Gamebryo poo poo itself trying to do calculations on newtonian physics in real time.

These tax write offs are getting more and more elaborate every year.

BMan
Oct 31, 2015

KNIIIIIIFE
EEEEEYYYYE
ATTAAAACK


Psychotic Weasel posted:

Apparently today's random rear end conference between Todd and Musk was somehow related to the development of Starfield and Todd's recent visit to a SpaceX facility to do some research for it. Haven't been able to watch the video yet (and likely never will since I can only stomach so much smug rear end in a top hat at a time) but a few tidbits of information that did make it out include spaceflight being "dangerous", using H3 as a fuel and Bethesda wanting to take a more hard sci-fi approach to the game. Can't wait to see Gamebryo poo poo itself trying to do calculations on newtonian physics in real time.

These tax write offs are getting more and more elaborate every year.

lol. You don't have to go to SpaceX to write hard scifi, todd is just 100% a musk fanboy

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene
no todd's sky

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007
The "talk" is Howard pretending starfield is simply too advanced to really discuss while Elon has autism. It's pretty good

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene
a wonderful starfield easter egg is that the cryptocurrency the player uses in-game will be called "pipcoin"

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

No Todd, sky(rim)!

SwitchbladeKult
Apr 4, 2012



"The warmth of life has entered my tomb!"
Bethesda support just sent me a tracking number on the replacement canvas bag. Time to see how this goes sideways.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



SwitchbladeKult posted:

Bethesda support just sent me a tracking number on the replacement canvas bag. Time to see how this goes sideways.
The package is stuffed with asbestos

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

SwitchbladeKult posted:

Bethesda support just sent me a tracking number on the replacement canvas bag. Time to see how this goes sideways.

please post photos of your new reusable canvas grocery bag with fallout man printed on the side

Moose-Alini
Sep 11, 2001

Not always so

SwitchbladeKult posted:

Bethesda support just sent me a tracking number on the replacement canvas bag. Time to see how this goes sideways.

Oooooh switch. Should stop in the discord sometime, only like three people still use it.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

TGLT posted:

is that a loving joke? edit: loving why. At least individual pieces of equipment have a few different values to track. An integer value is the same size either way.

Is it a hardcap, or do they just ban you if you have over 25K caps (you must have been cheating).

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
Hardcap. People have been looking for trades for 50k caps, I don't know how that works.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


what's even the loving point then

There's no story, no progress, hard limits on what you can earn/create.


Is there a hard cap on how many atoms you can have?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Tenzarin posted:

It's meh? If your not at the caps cap(25k caps) and don't have the backpack or done the new short short short quests, then there might be stuff for you to do. Might be better to have caps/backpack/more perks upgrade and know what you want to make legendary when they add the legendary system or other stuff.

It's most likely better than replaying fo4 again still and you will know when you are bored enough to stop.

Oh god no, I am still a babby in swaddling clothes in ‘76. Like to the point where I’m still having to sneak around to avoid ghouls. For whatever reason I wasn’t leveling up anywhere near as well as I was in other Fallout games even after playing for 2 weeks. I am comically bad at that game. So everything will still be a challenge.

And I can’t stand Fallout 4 anymore because of all the missions. I can’t go five minutes without a Minuteman freaking out about some crisis.

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Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
Makes it easier to buy some weapons on vendors really as there is a ceiling on how much they can bring in.

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