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With this kind of criticism there is always a struggle to integrate "[director] failed to make a good movie because they are poopy" and "[director] did everything that is bad about the movie on purpose because they are evil". I think in Lucas' case the former view has clearly won, just because people for a while were in love with the mental image of Lucas as this awkward bumbling fool who couldn't direct a horse to water without his wife. It's kind of difficult to claim he loves fascism whem he has Fascist Satan as a bad guy. On the other hand, Star Wars' legacy includes millions of children wearing Sturmtruppen t-shirts.
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# ? May 23, 2019 06:19 |
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Snowman_McK posted:There's something about Zack Snyder that just blinds people. I mean, i get disliking someone's films, but people go out of their way to misread films, statements, scenes...even individual lines of dialogue. It's become a performative thing to prove that you hate Snyder more than anyone else. It's just bizarre. I just had a reminder on my facebook feed of people saying Sucker Punch's action scenes were so badly shot they gave people motion sickness. Whatever you feel about Sucker Punch...that's just not true. It's performative culture war bullshit. Some people read 300 as stupid and racist, so Zack Snyder became the guy making stupid racist movies. And the more movies he makes, the more evidence you can find that he's stupid and racist.
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# ? May 23, 2019 07:48 |
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To be fair to folks, 'the Fountainhead is only about architects and loving, and also Ayn Rand's work isn't even that political and also she's a good storyteller' is a wildly idiotic take, so I get why people think that could be disingenuous.
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# ? May 23, 2019 12:17 |
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Anyone that says Rand is a good writer should be hit with Atlas shrugged in the ribs.Even our Boi Zack On the other hand if he unleashes some insane Napoleon movie I'll buy like 50 tickets and cry fat tears of joy.
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# ? May 23, 2019 12:48 |
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Dreqqus posted:To be fair to folks, 'the Fountainhead is only about architects and loving, and also Ayn Rand's work isn't even that political and also she's a good storyteller' is a wildly idiotic take, so I get why people think that could be disingenuous. No, what he's saying is that the appeal is the torrid melodrama and not the lame politics, which is absolutely true. Also what he's specifically referring to is his adaptation, not her book. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD fucked around with this message at 14:59 on May 23, 2019 |
# ? May 23, 2019 14:55 |
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The only possible way the Fountainhead will be good is if instead of an architect he's a film director making a blockbuster superhero film and every single time the character says or does anything he turns and stares unblinkingly into the camera Even during the rape scene, which will have the climax of MoS in the background
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# ? May 23, 2019 15:02 |
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Dreqqus posted:To be fair to folks, 'the Fountainhead is only about architects and loving, and also Ayn Rand's work isn't even that political and also she's a good storyteller' is a wildly idiotic take, so I get why people think that could be disingenuous. That’s not what he said, though. He didn’t say The Fountainhead is only about architecture and loving, he said that’s the main appeal of the book to him, and then talked about Rand’s politics saying she “drank her own Kool-aid.” Between that and the “we need a new president so we can stop taking things so seriously” thing, the best criticism you could have of this interview is that he’s honestly not critical enough but he definitely still is, which is what makes these liberal YouTube critics insisting he’s a fascist objectivist jock who loves rape look so off-base. I mean, I like him, but I’m also realistic that he’s a hyper-Christian white dude who got where he is at least in part due to his privilege. The fact that he comes out of all this as a leftist at all says a lot about his character.
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# ? May 23, 2019 15:20 |
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Snowman_McK posted:There's something about Zack Snyder that just blinds people. I mean, i get disliking someone's films, but people go out of their way to misread films, statements, scenes...even individual lines of dialogue. It's become a performative thing to prove that you hate Snyder more than anyone else. It's just bizarre. I just had a reminder on my facebook feed of people saying Sucker Punch's action scenes were so badly shot they gave people motion sickness. Whatever you feel about Sucker Punch...that's just not true. Granted, Mad Max: Fury Road is the rare blockbuster that actually tells the story through the visuals and never insults the viewer's intelligence with lame exposition. Then again, it wasn't wildly successful, and Max Rockatansky doesn't carry the same baggage as Batman.
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# ? May 23, 2019 15:37 |
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Snowman_McK posted:There's something about Zack Snyder that just blinds people. I mean, i get disliking someone's films, but people go out of their way to misread films, statements, scenes...even individual lines of dialogue. It's become a performative thing to prove that you hate Snyder more than anyone else. It's just bizarre. I just had a reminder on my facebook feed of people saying Sucker Punch's action scenes were so badly shot they gave people motion sickness. Whatever you feel about Sucker Punch...that's just not true. It's not specific to Snyder, it's that large swaths of internet culture think that making distinctions between different kinds of badness is somehow apologetics. Liking Rand's politics and ignoring them to focus on the melodrama are both bad things, and so they are identical.
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# ? May 23, 2019 15:45 |
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The obvious criticism is that apolitical stances are defacto reactionary but you can't make that criticism, because guess what else it indicts.
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# ? May 23, 2019 15:50 |
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Guy A. Person posted:Lucas is a very good call although even in his case they seem to think he's just a big lucky idiot instead of an evil fascist. Michael Bay is probably another similar one although, again, there doesn't seem to be a contingent who thinks he is an evil person to my knowledge (although maybe I'm not looking in the right places). Michael Bay is a dick, which does make me question the intent of his movies, even if the result does say something.
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# ? May 23, 2019 15:53 |
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There are a number of filmmakers who, like Michael Bay, have an eye for culturally resonant imagery, resulting in an artistic statement and politics that arises naturally from the material rather than being an expression of an authorial thesis. Jodorowsky personifies this.
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# ? May 23, 2019 17:28 |
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Mechafunkzilla posted:By Cease to Hope's logic, the Mongol Empire was a refugee migration.
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# ? May 23, 2019 17:35 |
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McCloud posted:A woman I follow on Twitter, Donnia Harrington, interviewed Snyder for her MFA thesis. It's an interey read: Thanks for sharing this, I was leery about a nerd-site writer, but she's actually pretty good https://comicbookdebate.com/2019/05/20/the-women-in-zack-snyders-films/
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# ? May 24, 2019 04:10 |
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That article about Snyder's female characters is really good. I would have appreciated some more jabs at Whedon, but I guess that wasn't in the scope of the article. Here's another article that got posted today in relation to how Brightburn treats Snyder's Superman as the definitive modern take on the character. Edit: Ah yeah, head's up, it contains some Brightburn spoilers. Detective No. 27 fucked around with this message at 23:21 on May 24, 2019 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:That article about Snyder's female characters is really good. I would have appreciated some more jabs at Whedon, but I guess that wasn't in the scope of the article. That's a really good article. I haven't seen Brightburn yet, so I didn't read those parts in depth. However, it does a good job of highlighting how much of a gentle soul Zack made Clark. People made a big stink about the destruction his fight with Zod caused, but that was a Superman still figuring out his powers and being forced to deal with someone who is just as strong as him without his compassion. gently caress, I love Man of Steel.
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# ? May 24, 2019 23:01 |
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Bogus Adventure posted:That's a really good article. I haven't seen Brightburn yet, so I didn't read those parts in depth. However, it does a good job of highlighting how much of a gentle soul Zack made Clark. People made a big stink about the destruction his fight with Zod caused, but that was a Superman still figuring out his powers and being forced to deal with someone who is just as strong as him without his compassion. Yeah, it's Ferdinand the bull but with superpowers. It's a really well constructed scene.
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# ? May 25, 2019 08:47 |
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Pirate Jet posted:That’s not what he said, though. He didn’t say The Fountainhead is only about architecture and loving, he said that’s the main appeal of the book to him, and then talked about Rand’s politics saying she “drank her own Kool-aid.” Between that and the “we need a new president so we can stop taking things so seriously” thing, the best criticism you could have of this interview is that he’s honestly not critical enough but he definitely still is, which is what makes these liberal YouTube critics insisting he’s a fascist objectivist jock who loves rape look so off-base. The sense I got from that interview was not so much that he was a leftist, but rather that he's a completely milquetoast Hollywood liberal who just happens to be a really talented filmmaker.
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# ? May 25, 2019 19:45 |
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How have your guys gym days been? Idk, I feel like I’ve been slacking, hopefully getting back on my sertraline regimen will help manage some of the anxiety I’m feeling and get me in the mindset to push more. My brothers gym is having a team-oriented workout competition at the beginning of the month and I’m already signed up, so I need to get my head in the game. I also need to get one of those Snydercut charity shirts to see if I can find any true heads doing it
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# ? May 25, 2019 22:52 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:The sense I got from that interview was not so much that he was a leftist, but rather that he's a completely milquetoast Hollywood liberal who just happens to be a really talented filmmaker. If the last part was what most people took away from that article, we wouldn't need this thread.
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# ? May 25, 2019 22:52 |
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K. Waste posted:How have your guys gym days been? I've recently given up standard deadlifts for sumo deadlifts because I'm built like a T-Rex (Long legs, short arms) and it feels good so far. I wish my gym had a trap bar though. Sorry to hear about your anxiety issues, if you don't know already, consider looking into an anti-inflammatory diet (https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/foods-that-fight-inflammation) Obviously, I'm not saying that this is the only culprit, but it can help. A Kenny Beats workout playlist is mandatory though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSSLqHJzy6Y (Potentially NWS)
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# ? May 26, 2019 00:53 |
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K. Waste posted:How have your guys gym days been?
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# ? May 26, 2019 01:01 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:The sense I got from that interview was not so much that he was a leftist, but rather that he's a completely milquetoast Hollywood liberal who just happens to be a really talented filmmaker. The argument can be made, but a lot of the content of Snyder’s films sit pretty solely in leftist but not liberal territory, without necessarily targeting liberals themselves. He has a common theme of war glory turning out to be bullshit that only leaves broken people behind, and the beginning of Man of Steel has an anti-capitalist streak, where Krypton’s society has been so automated that even birthing is in service of the economy, and that ultimately leads to the planet’s destruction. (Was that a thing in the comics? I thought the original story was just that a meteor was about to hit.) So you could say that Snyder is just a liberal but his movies are leftist, which would make sense. But the real target of my ire here are the YouTube critics who continue to insist that obviously everyone who says good things about Snyder’s movies is a fascist.
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# ? May 26, 2019 01:05 |
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If you seek his man meat look around you
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# ? May 26, 2019 02:01 |
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KVeezy3 posted:I've recently given up standard deadlifts for sumo deadlifts because I'm built like a T-Rex (Long legs, short arms) and it feels good so far. I wish my gym had a trap bar though. Nice, thanks for the links. Sumo deadlifts or great but I need to get a pair of shin covers. That bar is murder if you roll it into your legs. Halloween Jack posted:Really bad. Spring I have something disrupting my schedule at least once a week, whether it's the graduation ceremony or taking my mother to see Dr. Zhivago. Dr. Zhivago not a bad trade off for a gym day.
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# ? May 26, 2019 15:40 |
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Violator posted:Anything super interesting lately? I keep up with his Vero photo posts but don’t see a lot of his comments. K. Waste posted:Sumo deadlifts or great but I need to get a pair of shin covers. That bar is murder if you roll it into your legs. Mr. Apollo fucked around with this message at 18:28 on May 26, 2019 |
# ? May 26, 2019 18:25 |
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Apparently Cyborg’s dad died in Snyder’s JL.
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# ? May 30, 2019 03:16 |
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It's hard to picture him (or anyone non-superpowered) surviving Steppenwolf in a cut that doesn't associate heroics as a 'saving all the kitties from all the trees' fantasy
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# ? May 31, 2019 21:30 |
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Truely inspirational. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBFjpE1BaXk&t=1101s
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# ? Jun 9, 2019 17:18 |
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I also posted these in the general comic book discussion thread. Snyder posted a couple of shots from his JL today. A young Darkseid using the Anti-Life Equation Victor Stone being projected inside the Motherbox.
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# ? Jun 17, 2019 00:51 |
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https://twitter.com/rehsifyar/status/1140393876907352064?s=19 gently caress, WB did Cyborg so dirty
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# ? Jun 17, 2019 02:07 |
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LesterGroans posted:https://twitter.com/rehsifyar/status/1140393876907352064?s=19 that's such a good shot. especially how it's specifically hiding the cyborg parts of him, which would likely make the moment when reality comes back into focus all the more heartbreaking
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# ? Jun 17, 2019 03:00 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:I also posted these in the general comic book discussion thread. Snyder posted a couple of shots from his JL today. I wish we got this movie
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# ? Jun 17, 2019 06:08 |
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Snyder said in the JL trailer when you hear someone scream "Barry!" that's when Cyborg is projected inside the Motherbox. It happens after the League's first attempt at time travel and the burst of energy from the resulting attempt is what causes Cyborg to be projected into the mother box. Also, someone told Snyder that he should be posting this stuff on Reddit and Twitter to get mainstream media attention and to get people to realize what his vision was. His reply:
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# ? Jun 17, 2019 06:40 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:Snyder said in the JL trailer when you hear someone scream "Barry!" that's when Cyborg is projected inside the Motherbox. It happens after the League's first attempt at time travel and the burst of energy from the resulting attempt is what causes Cyborg to be projected into the mother box.
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# ? Jun 17, 2019 06:53 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:Snyder said in the JL trailer when you hear someone scream "Barry!" that's when Cyborg is projected inside the Motherbox. It happens after the League's first attempt at time travel and the burst of energy from the resulting attempt is what causes Cyborg to be projected into the mother box. We never deserved Zack
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# ? Jun 17, 2019 09:56 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:Snyder said in the JL trailer when you hear someone scream "Barry!" that's when Cyborg is projected inside the Motherbox. It happens after the League's first attempt at time travel and the burst of energy from the resulting attempt is what causes Cyborg to be projected into the mother box. Was there even time travel in the theatrical JL? I don’t remember. Thanks for posting this here.
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# ? Jun 17, 2019 14:42 |
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Violator posted:Was there even time travel in the theatrical JL? I don’t remember.
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Dreqqus posted:To be fair to folks, 'the Fountainhead is only about architects and loving, and also Ayn Rand's work isn't even that political and also she's a good storyteller' is a wildly idiotic take, so I get why people think that could be disingenuous. Calling Ayn Rand apolitical would be bad, but Snyder explicitly calls Rand extremely political: “she’s always said story first, not regarding her politics. But it was easy for her to fall victim to her own popularity, she drank her own Kool-Aid.” In Synder's view, Rand tried to be a truthful artist, merely depicting these outrageous hyper-libertarian caricatures, but ended up gazing into the abyss too long. Basically irony poisoning. His point is that The Fountainhead isn't "hardcore right wing propaganda", supporting the Trump regime or whatever, because it's far more stridently pro-capitalist.
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Yeah, and it's a perfect example of something that satirizes itself in spite of it's authour's intentions. Like 300
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