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No Irish Need Imply posted:How was Velveteen Dream/Orange Cassidy? I thought they changed that match to something less interesting as soon as it started getting people excited?
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No Irish Need Imply posted:How was Velveteen Dream/Orange Cassidy? good, not the best match from either that I've seen, but it was a good ME Ganso Bomb posted:I thought they changed that match to something less interesting as soon as it started getting people excited? nah, I think it originally might have been Orange Cassidy/Adam Cole, and they had to pull Cole out because of Vince wanting him on Raw so he couldn't be on the Evolve tour
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jesus WEP posted:Finlay didn’t get an excursion I don't know if that is why it feels like he is spinning his wheels, but he really has felt like an afterthought for the last year or more.
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jesus WEP posted:Finlay didn’t get an excursion Well up that point he got the full experience I think. Then he replaced Matt Sydal in a match due to weed violations in Japan, and NJPW forgot he hadn't been on an excursion yet.
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:good, not the best match from either that I've seen, but it was a good ME Yeah, they both hit their spots and sent the crowd home happy. Also it was supposed to be Ricochet but he got called up so they decided to just upgrade and give everyone Dream.
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Today I learned that in his 11-year career, Yoshi-Hashi has yet to hold any sort of championship. Not even a tag or 6-man championship. What other wrestlers have gone so long since their debut without holding any gold? Even other career mid-carders, and even many jobbers, I can think of picked up minor titles somewhere along the line before they reached the 10-year mark in their career. So far the only other person I can come up with is Steve Lombardi, who made his debut in 1983 and didn't win a championship anywhere until 1998.
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Takuan posted:Today I learned that in his 11-year career, Yoshi-Hashi has yet to hold any sort of championship. Not even a tag or 6-man championship. What other wrestlers have gone so long since their debut without holding any gold? Hillbilly Jim
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Takuan posted:Today I learned that in his 11-year career, Yoshi-Hashi has yet to hold any sort of championship. Not even a tag or 6-man championship. What other wrestlers have gone so long since their debut without holding any gold? It wasn't that uncommon Japan when titles weren't handed out like candy. Mitso Momota had a middling career and didn't win any titles until 19 years into it. There is also the greatest pro wrestler of all time, Sakuraba who has never held any championship except winning the UFC Japan tournament.
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Can somebody explain the Young Lion system in detail? Like where do they begin, what training do they do, is the excursion mandatory, etc. I forget which one but one of those 3 mentioned in either an interview or on commentary at some point that they had the feeling that the gaijin young boys got a bit of an easier treatment by Nagata and Liger and the other dads doing their training. Also I think all 3 of them were young lions while Suzuki-gun were "banished" to Pro Wrestling NOAH so they were probably thankful for that.
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Can somebody explain the Young Lion system in detail? Like where do they begin, what training do they do, is the excursion mandatory, etc. 1000 pushups, 1000 crunches, 1000 squats before they're allowed to touch the ring every training session is what I've heard a lot. Judging from videos they do a lot of sparring compared to your average wrestling school. I could be very wrong but I think most who enter the NJPW young lion system already have previous wrestling training/experience.
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RE: No title wins. Did Gangrel ever win anything?
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:RE: No title wins. Only our hearts.
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:RE: No title wins. European and Tag champ iirc.
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AkumaHokoru posted:European and Tag champ iirc. Incorrect, he never won a championship in WWE. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangrel_(wrestler)#Championships_and_accomplishments He was, however, a former Hoodslam Golden Gig champ, arguably more valuable than any WWE title, currently.
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He's had a surprising number of tag team titles, considering his partners outside of Edge and Christian are nobody I've ever heard much about.
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Halloween Jack posted:He's had a surprising number of tag team titles, considering his partners outside of Edge and Christian are nobody I've ever heard much about. The Blackhearts were pretty cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ov-IVNxf4s EugeneJ fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jun 20, 2019 |
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Is the American Balloon still alive?
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Who is cooler, T. Hawk or T-Hawk? The latter is wrestling in an indie here in the Philippines (June 30) and I really want to go but it's my brother's birthday......
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Schneider Heim posted:Who is cooler, T. Hawk or T-Hawk? Take your brother to the show as his bday present. Kill two birds with one stone!
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FunMerrania posted:1000 pushups, 1000 crunches, 1000 squats before they're allowed to touch the ring every training session is what I've heard a lot. Judging from videos they do a lot of sparring compared to your average wrestling school. I could be very wrong but I think most who enter the NJPW young lion system already have previous wrestling training/experience. They actually to my knowledge haven’t picked up many of the “college pro wrestling club” guys like Tanahashi. (A lot of those guys try out for the dojo and get turned down). Most are 18-20 and former high school athletes (wrestling being a big one, naturally). They then get dedicated to wrestling school and helping on shows practically 24/7, including in many cases living at the dojo. It’s not too dissimilar to a sumo stable — learning from the veterans, but probably less errand-running. When they’re ready, they debut as generic neutral characters - black trunks, simple hair, no real gimmick besides “rookie,” and also a pretty straightforward move set as well. They’ll be tossed in as openers or tag partners in low-card matches on tours. The excursion is generally for two reasons: one, to get them more experience before coming in full-time; and two, to provide a bridge of time between Young Lion in black trunks and formed character ready to return. Imagine if Jay White had gone from YL mode to Knife Pervert in no time? Would’ve been real weird.
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Takaaki Watanabe being completely underwhelming in ROH and then returning to New Japan as EVIL is still one of the most incredible transitions I have ever seen.
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Jerusalem posted:Takaaki Watanabe being completely underwhelming in ROH and then returning to New Japan as EVIL is still one of the most incredible transitions I have ever seen. 
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Schneider Heim posted:Who is cooler, T. Hawk or T-Hawk? T-Hawk the #STRONGHEARTS member is one of the coolest guys in wrestling and knocks it out of the park any time he gets a singles match (or any match really)
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Remember that Okada/Okato guy from TNA?
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Lid posted:Is the American Balloon still alive? Anyone?
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Lid posted:Anyone?
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He lives in Mongolia doing charity work and helping out the local populace.
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Jerusalem posted:Takaaki Watanabe being completely underwhelming in ROH and then returning to New Japan as EVIL is still one of the most incredible transitions I have ever seen. Okato --> Okada is the best.
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Lid posted:Is the American Balloon still alive? He did English commentary for a DDT show last year
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EugeneJ posted:The Blackhearts were pretty cool
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knowing really nothing about him other than spitting on Jim Cornette, why does everyone hate Sami Callihan?
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he is a weird gremlin who is proud of ohio. And he stupidly hurt someone very dangerously and sloppily and then used his massive fuckup to "get heat" on twitter and elsewhere and people don't like to be insulted in real life by some dickwad who thinks he is his wrestling character. there might be more stuff. i do not know
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Cavauro posted:he is a weird gremlin who is proud of ohio. And he stupidly hurt someone very dangerously and sloppily and then used his massive fuckup to "get heat" on twitter and elsewhere and people don't like to be insulted in real life by some dickwad who thinks he is his wrestling character. there might be more stuff. i do not know
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Cavauro posted:he is a weird gremlin who is proud of ohio. And he stupidly hurt someone very dangerously and sloppily and then used his massive fuckup to "get heat" on twitter and elsewhere and people don't like to be insulted in real life by some dickwad who thinks he is his wrestling character. there might be more stuff. i do not know the baseball bat incident and the proceeding fallout really made me go from "eh sami's just one of a million guys with a dumb edgelord gimmick" to "gently caress that guy"
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Cavauro posted:he is a weird gremlin who is proud of ohio. And he stupidly hurt someone very dangerously and sloppily and then used his massive fuckup to "get heat" on twitter and elsewhere and people don't like to be insulted in real life by some dickwad who thinks he is his wrestling character. there might be more stuff. i do not know truly his biggest crime. shiksa posted:the baseball bat incident and the proceeding fallout really made me go from "eh sami's just one of a million guys with a dumb edgelord gimmick" to "gently caress that guy" but yeah, hitting a dude in the head with a bat and then double down makes him a shithead.
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DLC Inc posted:who'd he hit? was that in TNA? Yeah it was Eddie Edwards if I remember right. I only really remember it because I watched the Twitch.tv IMPACT event that was happening at the same Wrestlemania weekend as Matt Riddle's Bloodsport and Joey Janela's Spring Break 2 (so...2018), which had a match between the two building off of the feud that led to the incident and continued beyond.
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Yeah, he broke Edwards orbital socket or something and then when people called him out, instead of going "yeah, I hosed up, it won't happen again", he went "LOL u mad bro?" and made his gimmick that he was an unsafe worker.
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Gaz-L posted:Yeah, he broke Edwards orbital socket or something and then when people called him out, instead of going "yeah, I hosed up, it won't happen again", he went "LOL u mad bro?" and made his gimmick that he was an unsafe worker. Is that not the exact same thing AJ Styles did when he broke the neck of the guy who killed himself this week
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