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Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
gotta respect that grift

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Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻




What, no 'Roll out, roll out, no Chinese'?

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

TaintedBalance posted:

Does it normally take more than 2 weeks for your membership card to arrive? I'd like to actually be a card carrying socialist if I'm gonna get yelled at so much by my family for being a traitor to my family's military history of being a bunch of socialists since they all joined the US military, literally the largest socialist organization in the US. There really is something special about your grandma yelling at you about how the socialists are gonna take her medicare to make you realize that Fox News truly is brain poison.

cool dance moves
Aug 27, 2018



If you are paid through taxpayer money but do a deliberately lovely job, does that make you an anti-government saboteur 🤔

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

got any sevens posted:

thats a cold take tho
not when your proposed solution to fixing deep-seated racial and economic inequality is "pay me money over this extremely capitalist payment platform." i don't know her, i don't know what she does, i don't owe her a goddamn thing as an individual, so gently caress off. this fixes nothing except the bruises on the egos of malignant narcissists

get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 15:31 on Jun 21, 2019

Koishi Komeiji
Mar 30, 2003



Hey dude, my people were brutally enslaved and raped for hundreds of years and then treated as subhumans to this day by the government but if you could just spot me a few bucks over venmo that should clear things up, oh yeah and happy june teeth or whatever, tia.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


But imagine if we monetized the white guilt

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/adamslily/status/1141759740944535552

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Tulip posted:

But imagine if we monetized the white guilt

White guilt turns into white resentment at the slightest hint of ingratitude. See Donut Twitter.

LordSloth
Mar 7, 2008

Disgruntled (IT) Employee
https://twitter.com/thetomzone/status/1142104682783027200?s=21

can’t get mad at Tuck, folks

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

at this point, if you want to call Red Scare a crypto-fascist podcast, i'm not going to stop you. i personally don't think so but i respect those that do. there's a niche to fill when it comes to leftist cultural criticism but they ain't it

also, the right isn't having any debate on anything and i don't know how she would know that they are

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Angela Nagle is a profoundly stupid person and I hate how she wanders around making proclamations about the left and leftist ideas while clearly not even having a passing familiarity with leftist theory

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

I can't even call her cryptofascist since her platitudes have more in common with the thinking emoji than it does with anyone with stated beliefs, so in brief,

Frog Act posted:

Angela Nagle is a profoundly stupid person and I hate how she wanders around making proclamations about the left and leftist ideas while clearly not even having a passing familiarity with leftist theory

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Angela Nagle is the butterfly meme

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

it's easier and more accurate to call someone stupid most of the time

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
nagle is a grifter just like every other jagoff with a podcast

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



I honestly think Angela nagle has never even read the communist manifesto

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

"The left has no critique of capitalism" is a hell of a take.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
I never trust people with a palindrome name in the first place.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

lmao

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



she claims the left is purging critics of capitalism because they’re more committed to something else but seems to be unable to identify who those purged anti capitalists are or what the “left” is doing instead

I mean it SOUNDS like she’s saying anticapitalist thinkers aren’t fair enough to neo-pseudo-strasserists like Carlson, but the only reason someone would stake that position out is if they themselves were a crypto fascist idiot :thunk:

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

saying that the right is more organized in any way than the left is laughable

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Communications Director for
@KamalaHarris
. Dog mom. From beautiful Austin, TX.

lmao

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i heard here a while ago that kamala harris's communications director, or press secretary, or whatever used to work for hillary clinton. is this that same person?

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Frog Act posted:

Angela Nagle is a profoundly stupid person and I hate how she wanders around making proclamations about the left and leftist ideas while clearly not even having a passing familiarity with leftist theory

yeah her and Anna are really loving dumb. and i gave both of them way more benefit of the doubt than they deserved

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

get that OUT of my face posted:

i heard here a while ago that kamala harris's communications director, or press secretary, or whatever used to work for hillary clinton. is this that same person?

someone in that twit thread said she was the one who came up with "chillin in cedar rapids"
:boom:

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

got any sevens posted:

someone in that twit thread said she was the one who came up with "chillin in cedar rapids"
jeeeeeeeeeeeesus

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
Angela once said Sargon of Applebees was an "ally the left needs", and after that I knew to never take anything she says seriously.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

get that OUT of my face posted:

i heard here a while ago that kamala harris's communications director, or press secretary, or whatever used to work for hillary clinton. is this that same person?

harris has a buncha her old staff yeah

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Venom Snake posted:

Angela once said Sargon of Applebees was an "ally the left needs", and after that I knew to never take anything she says seriously.

I had a professor in a cross listed PHD science and technology course recommmend her to me as the authoritative source on right-wing internet habits and it was very disappointing. she even gave me kill all Borneo’s thinking it would dovetail with my existing interest

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Frog Act posted:

I had a professor in a cross listed PHD science and technology course recommmend her to me as the authoritative source on right-wing internet habits and it was very disappointing. she even gave me kill all Borneo’s thinking it would dovetail with my existing interest
look, if you got a book deal that just involved you going on 4chan for 100 hours and writing about what you saw, you'd be stupid to not take it in an instant

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


How the gently caress did she even get off the ground in the first place? Rich parents, achievements in another field, high profile crimes, why is she any more important than any other moron?

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



yeah I’ll admit I respect the grift that produced that book because it was nothing more than a dumb non-digital discourse knower going on a couple 4chan safaris and extrapolating it out into a massive media tour

what bugged me was the way her credibility was taken as a given by that professor, who was very nice but also a caricature of a campus dilettante encouraging people to write semester length essays about the number of microaggressions expressed in a single twitch session or something. everything related to history or sociology, for her, had to be “activist”, and didn’t require reproducibility or consistency because she felt examples of problematic social trends were valuable enough themselves, which I don’t even disagree with, but still has the effect of greatly diminishing the academic legitimacy of her projects. that class was incredibly dire and Nagel for some reason was the perfect fit

we also read a book in that class that correctly pointed out the US Army was the worlds leading polluter and neocolonial entity, with a particularly fascinating focus on how Indian reservations were specifically abused by US military policy in the first half. then the second half was all essentializing activism proceeding from the idea that all native people are inherently spiritual and connected with the earth in a way that made their warfare kind and their conception of ecology naturally harmonious, and it came off racist as hell

I’m rambling a bit here it theres a very specific mileu that uses academic language in combination with spurious claims to sell a gross type of progressivism and Nagel is part of that constellation of disingenuity

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

get that OUT of my face posted:

at this point, if you want to call Red Scare a crypto-fascist podcast, i'm not going to stop you. i personally don't think so but i respect those that do. there's a niche to fill when it comes to leftist cultural criticism but they ain't it

also, the right isn't having any debate on anything and i don't know how she would know that they are

Maybe shes talking about that recent thing with david french and that other dude where the Trumpy cons are openly saying they want heteronormativity actively enforced by govt violence?

Its barely a debate because the David french/rick wilson nevertrumper wing of the R's is probably literally like 3-5% of the party, which was hilarious to see them discover in real time in 2015-2016.

I think they legit thought they were at least a third or so lol.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Frog Act posted:

I had a professor in a cross listed PHD science and technology course recommmend her to me as the authoritative source on right-wing internet habits and it was very disappointing. she even gave me kill all Borneo’s thinking it would dovetail with my existing interest

the thing that kills me about her stuff is that, as an anthropological study? it's not bad! actually going into the way these people talk about themselves is a worthwhile addition to the discussion of what the gently caress is with them.

but pretending that the way a bunch of sexless 4chan dipshits view the world is a basis for wider sociopolitical study ends up with you saying "no, really, if we could only get this particular gamergate personality turned failed british politician onside, all that was broken shall be mended."

woman spent a little too long staring at the abyss

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



I don’t remember the book that well but I do recall generally feeling like it was barely even decent anthropology because she clearly didn’t actually understand the culture of the Chan boards, she just made a halfhearted effort to learn the vernacular and history to make herself seem well versed to lay people

recently in this thread, maybe elsewhere, some posters were talking about reading frenworld posts and being able to parse them without conscious effort because they’re so brain poisoned by this poo poo. I don’t think Nagel could do that

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Tulip posted:

How the gently caress did she even get off the ground in the first place? Rich parents, achievements in another field, high profile crimes, why is she any more important than any other moron?

she was the first academic credentialed person to write a book about 4chan nazis

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



One More Fat Nerd posted:

Maybe shes talking about that recent thing with david french and that other dude where the Trumpy cons are openly saying they want heteronormativity actively enforced by govt violence?

Its barely a debate because the David french/rick wilson nevertrumper wing of the R's is probably literally like 3-5% of the party, which was hilarious to see them discover in real time in 2015-2016.

I think they legit thought they were at least a third or so lol.

imo they didnt really think about how much of the party sincerely shared their beliefs but instead that they would just all fall in line like how they had fallen in line behind romney despite him inventing obamacare, supporting abortion up until like five minutes prior, and generally being culturally indistinguishable from john kerry.

they didnt think about what exactly would be the mechanism that would make them fall in line because to them it was just going to happen because of their Thought Leadership. if they had thought harder about it they would have realized that every article they wrote in their dumb magazines was a waste of time and every moment they werent on fox yelling "a vote for trump is a vote for hillary" was a waste of time

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Shear Modulus posted:

she was the first academic credentialed person to write a book about 4chan nazis

That poo poo doesn't even is worth a book other than the trend regarding mass shootings because other than that those guys became irrelevant as an actual movement.

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get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Plutonis posted:

That poo poo doesn't even is worth a book other than the trend regarding mass shootings because other than that those guys became irrelevant as an actual movement.
there are still some people out there that think 4chan neets were a major reason why trump got elected, that book probably has a lot to do with it

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