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puve posted:What's the music of the future with energy, viscerality, or rawness with no regard for wide appeal because smooth and polished ear candy isn't any harder to find than an advertisement now uk drill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L3AL5yp-Fc
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To chime in on the idea of 'cyberpunk' music, I have been slowly building a cyberpunk playlist this year based on my idea of it. It's not really synthwave tho. I enjoy the synthwave vibe but to me that isn't cyberpunk idk. Some few artists mentioned earlier in the thread (Lorn etc) are in but I didn't do an album dump if I could avoid it (EPs iffy) It's more bass heavy, dark, glitchy and modern electronic industrial I guess. This is how I feel cyberpunk is, gritty and obnoxious. https://open.spotify.com/user/tapeworm-3/playlist/2IFjYfpTSVzXfSO0eFAwI0?si=bhtm84Y2QjizHeehvvvi0A Best used with shuffle probably. I plan to see how the OST is first but probably switch to my playlist running missions /shrug the_enduser fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Jun 28, 2019 |
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Jun 28, 2019 11:23
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I often wonder if there is a band that can combine the 'in your face' punk rock feel together with synth electronica and such. Kind of like making Sex Pistols work alongside Vangelis...tough ask though it might be, since one's all about being sloppy and raw power feel and the other moreso about precision and atmosphere.
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Jun 28, 2019 13:20
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CrazyLoon posted:I often wonder if there is a band that can combine the 'in your face' punk rock feel together with synth electronica and such. Kind of like making Sex Pistols work alongside Vangelis...tough ask though it might be, since one's all about being sloppy and raw power feel and the other moreso about precision and atmosphere. Ministry?
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Jun 28, 2019 13:44
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One thing to consider, in my opinion, the refusal of heavy metal to go away. It's been around since the 70s and literally will not die and only keeps recruiting new fans. Is it "cyberpunk" music? Probably not, but there is no way there are not metal bands in night city, and since metal constantly is merging with other kinds of music there is no way it would not be a part of the overall landscape. I could totally see a "metalhead" gang that could take it literally with tons of head/face centric mods. With the idea of music as protest you could see stuff like Sepultura being the opener for Samurai. Maybe toss in some electronic stuff a la Ministry or the synths bands like Children of Bodom use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ODNxy3YOPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F_ws83QcSQ
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Jun 28, 2019 14:28
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Old-school fear factory was all about the machine war and probably still fits for cyberpunk. The cp2077 playlist on Spotify I follow is basically a mix of darksynth, metal, industrial and electronic. Aside from some odd individual song picks I think it fits well https://open.spotify.com/user/daxter4101/playlist/6Cas2wjtOVfw3I6xuCmigB?si=zjJ0926lSTKzbx0GRzzI-A
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Jun 28, 2019 14:34
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puve posted:While on the topic of rap I would also say that Gucci Mane is pretty cyberpunk for being like the real life version of Big Boss from Metal Gear Solid Big Boss (ビッグ・ボス Biggu Bosu)
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Jun 28, 2019 14:47
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CrazyLoon posted:I often wonder if there is a band that can combine the 'in your face' punk rock feel together with synth electronica and such. Kind of like making Sex Pistols work alongside Vangelis...tough ask though it might be, since one's all about being sloppy and raw power feel and the other moreso about precision and atmosphere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDkRD5W2n7s
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Jun 28, 2019 14:56
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WoodrowSkillson posted:One thing to consider, in my opinion, the refusal of heavy metal to go away. It's been around since the 70s and literally will not die and only keeps recruiting new fans. Fishstick posted:Old-school fear factory was all about the machine war and probably still fits for cyberpunk. Demanufacture and Remanufacture are basically a custom fit for a cyberpunk game or movie, IMHO. Also we shouldn't forget Front Line Assembly, either, as they've often straddled the line between synth-driven and guitar-driven industrial music. Especially their work with Devin Townsend, who would also fit well in a cyberpunk setting (both his Strapping Young Lad stuff and some of his solo work). And Prong would also fit pretty well in the cyberpunk metal realm, too (especially their album Cleansing).
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Jun 28, 2019 15:39
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Oh yeah, Forgotten Weapons did a video on the cyberpunk gun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGKcvM2Hh4g
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Jun 28, 2019 15:46
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chitoryu12 posted:Oh yeah, Forgotten Weapons did a video on the cyberpunk gun. Take plastic covers off and it's a steampunk gun, all clockwork gears
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CrazyLoon posted:I often wonder if there is a band that can combine the 'in your face' punk rock feel together with synth electronica and such. Kind of like making Sex Pistols work alongside Vangelis...tough ask though it might be, since one's all about being sloppy and raw power feel and the other moreso about precision and atmosphere. Mindless Self Indulgence
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Jun 28, 2019 16:05
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The game is said/expected to require around 80GB on the PS4. Australia is gonna have a fun one with that. I wonder if the PC version will have higher resolution assets and a bigger footprint.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:21
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Some of the trailers also looked like they had prerendered cinematics, but maybe that was just for promotional purposes. Could be bullshots I guess.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:33
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ufarn posted:Some of the trailers also looked like they had prerendered cinematics, but maybe that was just for promotional purposes. Could be bullshots I guess. The cinematic teaser trailers were completely pre-rendered, but the gameplay trailer they released alongside the recent cinematic trailer supposedly contains genuine gameplay from the same sequence they played live at E3.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:37
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thewizardofshoe posted:Also can't believe GoST and Perturbator got mentions pages back but no Dan Terminus. Might as well mention Mega Drive if you're going down the road to Dan Terminus place from the GoST and Perturbator town of dark, percussive synth segregated from the German goth power electronics industrial megalopolis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psvkEwBr-fU necrobobsledder fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jun 28, 2019 |
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Jun 28, 2019 18:39
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necrobobsledder posted:GoST and Perturbator are rooted firmly in metal and Dan Terminus is more straightforward synthwave to my ears even though there's a lot shared stylistically. When I saw GoST and Perturbator it was very clear that 70%+ of the crowd was metalheads first. Mega Drive is so good and you can easily pick out any of their tracks because their sound is so distinct, especially on 198XAD. In that same vein, there's stuff like Master Boot Record chitoryu12 posted:Oh yeah, Forgotten Weapons did a video on the cyberpunk gun. Lmao when the back comes off. Goddamn. Fishstick fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Jun 28, 2019 |
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Jun 28, 2019 19:06
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puve posted:edit again: I'm going to make a thread in the music forum asking for cyberpunk music so I don't clutter this one up for people who just want to talk about the game, thank you everybody who gave recommendations and perspective Link!
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Jun 28, 2019 19:18
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Gun Jesus is the only good gun person and everyone should watch his videos
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Jun 28, 2019 19:18
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Gun Jesus is the only good gun person and everyone should watch his videos Karl from his other channel, InRange, is good too. They do a lot of videos on stuff like the Underground Railroad and how the government oppressed Native Americans. Yankee Marshal used to be good, but when Trump got elected he started drifting to the right.
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Jun 28, 2019 19:30
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They're also starting a series on armor piercing ammo vs modern infantry armor plate which should be really cool. The Soviet ww2 api went right through.
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Jun 28, 2019 19:40
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WoodrowSkillson posted:One thing to consider, in my opinion, the refusal of heavy metal to go away. It's been around since the 70s and literally will not die and only keeps recruiting new fans. There are loads of retro 1980s style heavy metal bands around too, it could work really well I think. Just ask some of these bands or these bands for some material
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oddly enough, Johnny Silverhand is the most rockabilly name in this and all universes
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Jun 28, 2019 22:11
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Speaking of dumb/cool future-tech guns that never entered wide-spread production and were covered by Forgotten Weapons, the Pancor Jackhammer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VKGhqIl4Gw "These guns are really well known primarily for video games-" lol
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Jun 28, 2019 22:38
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CrazyLoon posted:I often wonder if there is a band that can combine the 'in your face' punk rock feel together with synth electronica and such. Kind of like making Sex Pistols work alongside Vangelis...tough ask though it might be, since one's all about being sloppy and raw power feel and the other moreso about precision and atmosphere. Yeah that's the kind of stuff I would be interested to see because I like a lot of music from either extreme but know of almost none that falls in between. Of the music I'm familiar with, primarily electronic stuff isn't punk but varying mixtures of metal, industrial and rave music, with the exception of bizarre mostly unlistenable subgenres of hardcore like cybergrind. The stuff I am aware of made by actual bands tend to use synths more like another guitar instead of for texture/atmosphere. If that stuff all seems like late era hardcore it's because I honestly don't know of any acts that have more of a more traditional punk sound that use any kind of keys(besides this band), let alone synthesizers. This is more like what I'm looking for, I'm going to give that comp a listen and see where it leads me. Thanks! Subjunctive posted:Link! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3892823
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Despite the obsession with caseless in a bunch of cyberpunk stuff, I admit I don't remember seeing the G11 ever actually used in fiction outside of videogames and I assume it's mainly because it's a hideous brick.
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It's not because it's hideous. It's because this is what a usual gun mechanism looks like  And this is what the caseless G11 mechanism looks like  It would have been absolutely impossible to do any field maintenance on that fine clockwork-like contraption. So it never got enough traction to get real world presence to appear in media.
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Just make it good enough so that it doesn't break easy + rotate the older and newer guns for serious workshop maintenance every 10,000 miles. Bing bang bong Lil Sammy noobrunner doesn't care if he ends his tour with the same exact gun he started with and if he does gently caress em anyway. the Corp doesn't give a poo poo why would Uncle Sam either?
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I'm guessing the G11 being nigh-impossible for film armorers to obtain + convert to blank firing also contributed.
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And as the video mentions, heat dissapation is a huge problem with caseless ammo firearms. In a normal gun the ejected brass gets rid of a chunk of the heat produced. With caseless ammo you still have the detonating powder and the heat just goes into the receiver. Pretty much the modern developed versions of the m16 and ak74 are about as good as a military standard issue rifle is gonna get until something really crazy changes like a solution to caseless ammo or literally like directed energy weapons. All the other stuff is just way too expensive for very marginal improvements.
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KazigluBey posted:Speaking of dumb/cool future-tech guns that never entered wide-spread production and were covered by Forgotten Weapons, the Pancor Jackhammer: mmmmm...my fallout nostalgia 
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frajaq posted:bike Oh they named it after Ghost in the Shell
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Somebody Awful posted:I'm guessing the G11 being nigh-impossible for film armorers to obtain + convert to blank firing also contributed. Eh, I doubt it. They could just fabricate one and use FX to cover the shots. A bigger issue might be that it is distinctly an HK product and HK may be sue happy over it. Don't know that for sure but it seems likely
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Arglebargle III posted:Oh they named it after Ghost in the Shell Kusanagi has a lot of Japanese cultural cache outside of GitS, though that's obviously where most non-Japanese people have any experience with it. It's pretty much the Japanese version of Excalibur (which is why Makoto was using it as a psuedonym, it's basically the equivalent of calling yourself 'Jane Excalibur' in the UK, it's a way to say 'this is not my real name, I am a weaponized instrument of the state').
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Jun 29, 2019 02:29
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I had no idea!
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Jun 29, 2019 02:44
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Hey how did they manage the Major's reappearance for the TV show if she flees in an anonymous civilian body after merging with an emergent AI in the end of the movie?
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Jun 29, 2019 02:47
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I pretty much assume that SAC and the movies are separate continuities.
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So Kusanagi was a total replacement cyborg, without even a normal brain, right? Like, she has some organic bits in her brain but it's mostly like the government official in the beginning of the movie, that you can put her on a table and actually pull out the brain and it looks like a piece of computer hardware. What happened to her original body and brain? They mention that if she quits, she has to return her body and brain to the government... where are her original parts? Is it like, she has to get a rental for her ghost?
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WoodrowSkillson posted:And as the video mentions, heat dissapation is a huge problem with caseless ammo firearms. In a normal gun the ejected brass gets rid of a chunk of the heat produced. With caseless ammo you still have the detonating powder and the heat just goes into the receiver. It should be noted the reason why caseless ammo imparts a crap ton of heat to the gun itself is because the casing, instead of being eject it’s designed in such a way to evaporate/disintegrate when the round is fired. Now there was a class of weapons that was mechanical similar to regular guns, fired caseless rounds, and was actually deadlier then most firearms called Gryojet guns, but they had their own slew of problems that made them insane to use. E: gryojets guns are basically bolters from 40k
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