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Potato Salad posted:In the energy deficit, do you build labs, fortresses, etc as normal? Yeah. It only affects minerals from jobs, army damage, weapon damage, and shield health. Zodium posted:get the omnicodex and see how many you can shove into the l-cluster, show up those fallen jerks. Real talk-- how do you manage that many pops without your brain melting? The micromanagement must be insane!
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scaterry posted:Yeah. It only affects minerals from jobs, army damage, weapon damage, and shield health. Auto pop resettlement mod. If you don't care about cheevos then it is the single most incredible mod for this game. And it's an absolute crime that it isn't baked in to the game by default. You hear me, Darkrenown? 
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 So thats why there isn't anything to my west.
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Jul 16, 2019 00:38
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They really should buff egalitarians, free movement is such a terrible idea in this game, unfortunately.
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Zodium posted:get the omnicodex and see how many you can shove into the l-cluster, show up those fallen jerks. Once in a game I built one of these, maximum habitable space, then stuck a pair of behemoth planetcraft over it and never settled it I was pretending to be the most baffling and annoying precursors for a future race "WHY DID THEY BUILD THIS AND PARK TWO GIANT AUTOMATED MURDER PLANETS OVER IT WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"
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Jul 16, 2019 00:52
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Leal posted:
It's free real estate!
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Jul 16, 2019 00:57
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How screwed would I be if I were to set sectors to auto build? There is so many colonies, I'm a robit, may as well colonize it all. But my god I can't keep track of the current 10 colonies I got, I can't imagine tripling that.
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The sectors seem vaguely alright. My current game I'm in the "basically infinite resources" stage and I just occasionally toss 20,000 of minerals and energy in the bank. My sectors probably aren't doing things remotely efficiently, but I'm producing more science than ever and I have somewhere north of +1000 mineral income and somewhere close to +700energy. Although I still really miss the old sector system. This whole "4 jumps away" bullshit invites too much micro. Actually that reminds me. Can sector governors colonize planets inside their borders?  If I colonize one of the planets on Kruloda and create a sector, will the governor start aggressively expanding? Or do I have to manually colonize all of them?
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Jul 16, 2019 02:11
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Leal posted:How screwed would I be if I were to set sectors to auto build? There is so many colonies, I'm a robit, may as well colonize it all. But my god I can't keep track of the current 10 colonies I got, I can't imagine tripling that. This is why I keep the habitable planet setting to .5 It's way nicer having fewer planets to manage, and it makes habitats waaay useful.
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Accretionist posted:Started a new game What Galaxy settings are you using for this?
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Leal posted:How screwed would I be if I were to set sectors to auto build? There is so many colonies, I'm a robit, may as well colonize it all. But my god I can't keep track of the current 10 colonies I got, I can't imagine tripling that. DoubleNegative posted:Although I still really miss the old sector system. This whole "4 jumps away" bullshit invites too much micro.
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Leal posted:How screwed would I be if I were to set sectors to auto build? There is so many colonies, I'm a robit, may as well colonize it all. But my god I can't keep track of the current 10 colonies I got, I can't imagine tripling that. They are mostly fine. You can do a better job if you micro them, but that's also really annoying and it's worth handing them off to a sector to manage. Set the speciality to whatever you want, load up your stockpile (and make sure to set the auto-transfer up so it doesn't run out), and then ignore them.
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Calling it on my New Age Hippy space otters playthrough. It pretty much went to a stalemate between my empire and the Unbidden to where if it wasn't a matter of resources, I could probably beat out that however long Civ game that one guy had with plinking at each other. All in all, it was a good run. I am a bit fuzzy on Victory conditions since I can't see what lists on the tab. I wish there was something to be able to set Victory conditions to know what to aim for. While I wouldn't mind crazy stuff like 'have a plantoid, mammal, and fungoid species become livestock cheeseburgers', something like conquer X amt of species or set up trade empire of at least X amt members would be nice. With the playthrough I'm considering, I'm thinking of taking advantage of some of the automated colony/sector options. Are they worth using or not? I've been managing everything on my own so far and it gets a bit challenging when you're holding a quarter plus of the galaxy.
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yorkinshire posted:How do you let a.i. assume control? That might be fun for when I'm "done" with a save. tilde to open the console, "observe," unpause. "play 0" pops you back into your own empire for when you want to scrutinize what the AI's done.
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Serephina posted:Was there a system between 1.0 and the current sector system that's different? Cuz the only-4-core-world bullshit then mandatory sectors was... awful beyond words, I cannot fathom anyone preferring it over a kick in the balls. Well the ability to just jam all your sectored worlds into one mega sector was different, and not awful. I wouldn't mind having the ability to do that now, I've definitely wound up with annoying cases where a world was one system too far away or something.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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scaterry posted:Consumer Goods Deficit -- Kinda weak. First of all, consumer goods upkeep is very low compared to energy, not enough to justify a deficit. Second, the research job is phenomenal. It's 50% cheaper than the gestalt for the equivalent, it's twice as good as unemployed pops, and improves with technology. You also get eight for free from the guaranteed relic world. Finally, you need a large amount of unemployed pops. The main strength of utopian abundance is that ignores the job cap, so if you have more pops than jobs, they are still productive. However, its way easier to generate jobs than it is to generate pops. Lifeseeded in particular has the benefit of rare resources on its home world, so upgraded buildings are easy to make. It may not be the strongest but it naturally tended towards making true dystopian hell worlds which I strongly approve of.  Welcome to Hell World population everybody. Should probably make unemployed utopian abundance pop not produce resources if there is no actual abundance. Nuclearmonkee fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Serephina posted:Was there a system between 1.0 and the current sector system that's different? Cuz the only-4-core-world bullshit then mandatory sectors was... awful beyond words, I cannot fathom anyone preferring it over a kick in the balls. The only sector system I have any other experience with was the one that used the Claims interface. You just picked a starting system and hit a bunch of plusses until you made your sector. It could have any number of planets in it and wasn't limited to just four system jumps away. And, most importantly, the AI governor would expand on their own.
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scaterry posted:Real talk-- how do you manage that many pops without your brain melting? The micromanagement must be insane! rain man level autism
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Leal posted:How screwed would I be if I were to set sectors to auto build? There is so many colonies, I'm a robit, may as well colonize it all. But my god I can't keep track of the current 10 colonies I got, I can't imagine tripling that. Make sure your economy can take the hit of the AI doing stupid poo poo with all your planets. I generally hit that point at 30-40 planets. 1k+ surplus of energy and minerals is my minimum. If you need food, that doesn't need to be quite as high as the AI loves building farms. Keep in mind that the AI loves upgrading buildings, so your strategic resource surplus will usually turn into a deficit right quick once you turn on automation, forcing you to buy them. It's easily doable, but annoying.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:It may not be the strongest but it naturally tended towards making true dystopian hell worlds which I strongly approve of.
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I would assume due to housing districts giving clerk jobs but them being unneeded and unemployment being more useful.
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OwlFancier posted:I would assume due to housing districts giving clerk jobs but them being unneeded and unemployment being more useful.
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I dislike the +clerks prosperity tree thing for several reasons. 2 clerks per city causes weird game stuff.
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OwlFancier posted:I would assume due to housing districts giving clerk jobs but them being unneeded and unemployment being more useful. So much paperwork is going unfilled. It's a bureaucratic nightmare.
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Splicer posted:I dislike the +clerks prosperity tree thing for several reasons. 2 clerks per city causes weird game stuff.
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Clerks are kind of interesting and I remain unsure how I feel about them, but in one of my current multiplayer games, I'm running full Utopian Abundance and supplying half my Consumer Goods needs through that one Trade policy. I considered swapping away from it to Marketplace of Ideas to finish off my last two Traditions, then realized that I was getting 2000 Consumer Goods from Trade, and only had a surplus of about 200-300.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I like it because more amenities, more trade value, and more jobs without needing a new building. But I know a lot of people hate Clerk jobs because the value they add vs other bottom-tier jobs is pretty lackluster, I guess? e: that was some word salad. I meant that I like that cities give more housing while other districts give more jobs, and having them both give two jobs messes with their dynamic, for me. Splicer fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Perhaps Clerks could reduce housing demand as one of their outputs, like Organic Sanctuaries, to represent space being allocated more efficiently?
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What about clerks slightly increasing admin efficiency?
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Clerks are "okay" if you just need to give a job for somebody to do or if you want to eke out a few amenities without using a building slot. If you are a megacorp with stacked trade bonuses they are even pretty good. Most of the time your limiting factor for productivity is pops though and you don't have a surplus of them in which case it's better to turn the clerks off and just have a couple entertainers instead. Towards the lategame I'll usually re-enable a bunch of clerks once there's a huge number of pops in the mix and planets fill up.Epicurius posted:So much paperwork is going unfilled. It's a bureaucratic nightmare. Hellworld has byzantine bureaucracy for the extra 10% housing reduction so the lack of clerks is made up for with a bureaucracy complex. It's a planet with 100% crime, 100% stability via martial law, no clerks under a bureaucratic state with no consumer goods under egalitarian* utopian abundance. idk how that's even representable besides "wow that place is real hosed up" *if all have nothing then all are equal comrade Nuclearmonkee fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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The main benefit of running a hellworld state is that there is minimal pop management and a small number of planets. Mostly just let people land wherever they do and gently caress off smoking weed and making street art in the dystopia.
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No consumer goods, 100% crime, egalitarian, utopian abundance kinda sounds like some weird kind of anarchism where everyone lives in skyscrapers but they do nothing but run grow ops and shitpost all day, and this state of affairs is maintained by a military dictatorship that works basically like rogue servitors. Doesn't actually sound that bad tbh.
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really queer Christmas posted:What about clerks slightly increasing admin efficiency? that's what alpha mod does. every clerk is +1 efficiency. my capital is basically nothing but commercial zones after i got some other planets up and running.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:It's a planet with 100% crime, 100% stability via martial law, no clerks under a bureaucratic state with no consumer goods under egalitarian* utopian abundance. idk how that's even representable besides "wow that place is real hosed up" Sounds like you've recreated Mega-City One.
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Potato Salad posted:There is a mod where you gather the infinity stones and snap half the galaxy's pops Even without that (hey, it would cut down on lag!) it's hilariously overpowered, one relic (the Reality Stone) lets you turn any planet you own, inhabited or not, to a Gaia world. With no cost. Recastable frequently. Yep.
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Roobanguy posted:that's what alpha mod does. every clerk is +1 efficiency. I really like this. It helps take some pressure off as you're expanding, but you can't really cheese it to permanently stay at the cap unless you build nothing but cities and commercial zones.
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Geshtal posted:Sounds like you've recreated Mega-City One. I'm inspired and am going to make lots of The City worlds, each one with its own Spider Jerusalem writing articles about how terrible I am.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:It may not be the strongest but it naturally tended towards making true dystopian hell worlds which I strongly approve of. This is art. I'm the 100% crime and 100% happiness.
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I think clerks are fine, as has been said they're basically makework for excess pops if you don't want to go social welfare. Maybe if the perk added clerks to all districts...
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NatasDog posted:This is art. I'm the 100% crime and 100% happiness. 15% happiness. 100% stability, though.
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