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Bust Rodd posted:laser gun that makes you poo poo your pants can't say anyone else is doing this
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Aug 4, 2019 12:29
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The "edge-y" thing about Transmetropolitan turned out to be how depressingly predictive it was about modern politics.
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Aug 4, 2019 14:27
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It’s been years since I read Transmetropolitan but I remember how every street corner had what are basically livestreamers begging for shares on it on another bang on prediction. Zwabu posted:I thought this was one of the best things I've seen yet streaming, possibly the best in terms of a streaming service series. I can only hope that they maintain the quality. The cast is top notch but especially the guy playing Homelander, and Karl Urban. Not spoiling much to say that the twist at the end of season 1 has set the show on a completely different path from the comics since it didn’t happen there.
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Aug 4, 2019 15:01
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If Homelander ran as president in the current Chud support our troops political climate he would win a landslide victory.
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Aug 4, 2019 15:18
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"vote for me or I'll laser all you motherfuckers" is one helluva campaign slogan.
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Aug 4, 2019 15:38
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Alan Smithee posted:everyone keeps praising Transmetropolitan It's not really edgelord so much as freshman-who-just-discovered-Hunter_S_Thompson, but it's a worthy read
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Aug 4, 2019 15:39
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jfood posted:"vote for me or I'll laser all you motherfuckers" is one helluva campaign slogan.
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Aug 4, 2019 15:44
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The only thing I'm still not sure was better than the comics was changing Hughie from a wee scottish laddie. Although, I think cockney english guy is the absolute limit of understanding for US audiences.
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Aug 4, 2019 15:50
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etalian posted:If Homelander ran as president in the current Chud support our troops political climate he would win a landslide victory. Homelander actually asks the question in the show, but the only puzzling thing is why The Seven are puppet stooges for a megacorp instead of running things themselves, although the show does seem to be moving in that direction. One of the issues seems to be that aside from Homelander, (and maybe Starlight although I don't have a good feel for her powers yet), the powers of the rest of the Seven aren't that strong or conducive to seizing control over the world as gods. The setup in The Boys reminds me very much of the Roger Zelazny book Lord of Light in which a group of scientist/space colonists, who have become effectively immortal through the development of technology to transfer their souls to new bodies, but also have developed special powers, initially through technological means but which become part of their being that inhabits the new bodies. This group decides at some point to adopt the identities of the Hindu pantheon of gods and rule over the planet they're on as gods. Since enough time has passed through many reincarnations that the original human identities of the gods are no longer known to the public (although they are known by the gods among each other), they are simply known by their god identities. One of the original group of gods who doesn't like the way they rule over the lesser mortals sets up a rebellion against the rest and that's the main plot of the book. The position of the Seven, especially if they were to ultimately seize power themselves which it looks like Homelander is moving towards, is like that.
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Aug 4, 2019 16:10
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Chris Pine should be a little worried. Starr could be slotted into pretty much any role of his, including Kirk. It’s funny, you see Pine and Fassbender and I see Jason Bateman and Bradley Cooper, but I can see Pine and Fassbender too.
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Aug 4, 2019 16:18
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Zwabu posted:Homelander actually asks the question in the show, but the only puzzling thing is why The Seven are puppet stooges for a megacorp instead of running things themselves, although the show does seem to be moving in that direction. They would need an administration apparatus though, no one or seven humans could do everything. Homelander seemed genuinely afraid of defying Mister Edgar. Didn't they mention something about level (floor) 83? Perhaps they are betentacled monsters from beyond spacetime  wearing human suits who are doing an experiment. Who knows. It would be a bit off theme to go that way though.e: Or more likely they absolutely have a method of killing him, but he such a fantastic money maker they would do a cost/benefit analysis on whether to use it on him. So he would have to do more than just killing executives and being a general dick to trigger the fail safe. Stillwell knew she was worth less to the company than Homelander and knew what a physco man child he was and it terrified her. Collateral fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Aug 4, 2019 |
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Aug 4, 2019 16:33
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Jedit posted:He's not strait-laced at all; he's as much a hedonist as any of them. The majority of their concern seems to be money. We see what happens when a cape loses their status (Popclaw/Deep/Mesmer) and it's pretty firmly in the 'Washed up D-lister' category. They're basically highly paid celebrities (actors, athletes, entertainers) managing their PR constantly. And it's not hard to believe Voight would have a bunch of skeletons stashed away to ruin them if they step out of line.
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Aug 4, 2019 16:42
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I don’t understand how come any super hero seems washed up. Can’t Mesmer just go to like any casino on Earth and mindread the goddam dealer? You’re telling me in the mega-corporate hellscape of the boys nobody thought up a Mega-Weight division of UFC or Foxy Boxing for people like Popclaw? Hell, I’d rather go out guns blazing in a bank robbery than just be a normal rear end dude with super powers struggling to make ends meet.
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Aug 4, 2019 17:14
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Bust Rodd posted:I don’t understand how come any super hero seems washed up. Can’t Mesmer just go to like any casino on Earth and mindread the goddam dealer? Looks like Mesmer has to touch people to get his mind meld going. So that's an important limitation on what he can get up to, but one that can certainly be worked around. It would probably be helpful for him to disguise himself various ways, change his appearance. He could still make himself incredibly rich and powerful with his ability though, it's probably better than anyone's power aside from Homelander. Unless they are keeping 24/7 surveillance on him just to keep him from using his ability to get anywhere.
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Aug 4, 2019 17:23
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Well, to get a little meta, we were just having the discussion about wanting HJO getting more work because he's a great actor, but not really having any traction in Hollywood thanks to his past/looks. It's not unbelievable that someone with Handclaws past her sexy Britney Spears days might get tossed aside. Or that the Fastguy who's just moderately past Mach1 might find their sports attire contracts are gone and are instead opening the Jersey County Fair because no one wants to give him the time of day. Like if you're used to being a meticulously managed quasi-celeb with all your needs taken care of just being constantly handed money and opportunities, you probably will have a hard time adjusting to regular life. Mesmer could ideally work with Law Enforcement but how do you use that in a court of law?
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Aug 4, 2019 17:30
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Zwabu posted:Looks like Mesmer has to touch people to get his mind meld going. So that's an important limitation on what he can get up to, but one that can certainly be worked around. It's very probable that they are. Every casino in the world likely has his face on the wall for a start. Plus, it looks like his power is nowhere near as accurate as was portrayed in his TV show. When he reads the Female he doesn't get everything, or even everything they need to know.
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Aug 4, 2019 17:34
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Literally exactly the same way it worked in the show. If Mesmer can just touch you and know without question what crimes you’ve committed, he could solve thousands of cases in a manner of months. If they ever suspected he was full of poo poo, they could’ve just given him a polygraph and ask “are you lying about that guy’s criminal record?” but honestly they give supes so much leeway with laws in this universe anyway. I just have a really hard time imagining anyone with a legitimate superpower not finding a way to make money.
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Aug 4, 2019 17:35
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I like the way it's portrayed in things like Scanners, and the Stephen King books Firestarter and The Dead Zone. If you really think about it, it's very likely that people with mind reading abilities (especially if you just received the thoughts passively), would wind up homeless crazy people or losers on the fringe of society, hearing (real) voices in their head that they can't shut out. Except maybe with powerful drugs or suicide.
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Aug 4, 2019 17:40
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Bust Rodd posted:Literally exactly the same way it worked in the show. If Mesmer can just touch you and know without question what crimes you’ve committed, he could solve thousands of cases in a manner of months. I mean with this logic, why not just give the polygraph to the suspected perpetrator in the first place?  (polygraphs are pseudoscience bullshit)
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Aug 4, 2019 17:41
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mesmerizers powers are the sole property of vought industries, llc. any use is forbidden, without prior written consent.
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Aug 4, 2019 17:46
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Vought is showing some major (but realistic) HeadUpTheirAssitis in having a league of past-prime capes scraping by and growing desperate. Like, set them up with a nice 'retirement' salary of 40k or something to keep them honest.
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Aug 4, 2019 17:54
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Yeah, sounds like the basis of a Stab in the Back type of uprising. I don't think there are that many of them though. Why would the US DoD, of all people, not procure a sample of V and manufacture their own line of GI Supes. They wouldn't, but the indiscriminate use of Supers in any military would be insanely demoralising for the line infantrymen, and set up some crazy inter service rivalries.
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Aug 4, 2019 18:03
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Ragin that Hughie isnt Scottish.
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Aug 4, 2019 18:13
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Americans don't like to read subtitles
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Aug 4, 2019 18:15
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FilthyImp posted:. Supes are forbidden to work directly with law enforcement or military in that universe and have no training of any kind, that's also why Homelander and Maeve had no idea how to deal with the plane
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Aug 4, 2019 18:15
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Collateral posted:Yeah, sounds like the basis of a Stab in the Back type of uprising. I don't think there are that many of them though. Yeah, the scene of the Homelander showing up and telling the US Military to go have a smoke gave me this vibe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFuMpYTyRjw
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Aug 4, 2019 18:16
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I dunno how it works in the comics but the show seems to imply Vought is necessary for superheroics because it manages all the messy logistical stuff that never comes up in Marvel/DC. If Homelander knocks down a building or doesn’t read someone their Miranda rights or accidentally breaks someone’s arm then Vought takes care of the liability. That’s why they yelled at Starlight for going off and fighting crime on her own. You just can’t do that stuff in the real world without loving up the case and/or getting sued. My impression was that Homelander was basically brainwashed since birth by that scientist who raised him and he’s slowly coming to the realization that nothing and nobody can stop him from doing whatever he wants.
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Aug 4, 2019 18:18
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Zwabu posted:Homelander actually asks the question in the show, but the only puzzling thing is why The Seven are puppet stooges for a megacorp instead of running things themselves, although the show does seem to be moving in that direction. Why would they want to run the world though? Sure in a TV-villain sense power-for-powers-sake it's an okay motivation. But if these were actual real individuals why would they want it. The Seven racket as presented gives fame and fortune and like most real-life celebrities they are comfortable riding that train wherever it goes until the inevitable mid-life crisis. I'm going to go on a limb here and guess that the guy who talks to fish for a living is not interested in the day to day of running political organizations. He wants respect, fame, fortune and meaning, not control of the world. Sure there's ego just like in real-life. But it makes sense that a preening psycopath like Homelander is the only one who really cares. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Aug 4, 2019 |
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Aug 4, 2019 18:23
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Gonzo McFee posted:Ragin that Hughie isnt Scottish. Harder to root for a junkie.
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Aug 4, 2019 18:28
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El Padrino posted:Supes are forbidden to work directly with law enforcement or military in that universe and have no training of any kind In the comics, though, we do find out that Vought tried a slo-roll supe rollout for the military before: a bunch of idiots are embedded with a group in WW2 and, when doing recon, the Flyer gets the bright idea to pop above the treeline and not come down miles away from the squad. He's halfway to getting chewed out by the commanding officer when the enemy drops down on them since the idiot basically gave them a giant red flag to where the troops were, leading to almost all of them getting murked and the plan for supersoliders to be shelved.
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Aug 4, 2019 18:33
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That deleted scene with Homelander makes an incredible amount of sense after you realize his overall arc this season. Wish Amazon would have allowed it.
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Aug 4, 2019 18:38
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What did Homelander whisper to Stillwell in the last episode?
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Aug 4, 2019 19:05
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:That deleted scene with Homelander makes an incredible amount of sense after you realize his overall arc this season. Wish Amazon would have allowed it. Bust Rodd posted:I saw some twitter buzz to the effect of “The Boys is a trash show and not worth watching because of its attempts to make abusers appear sympathetic” and I gotta say as hosed up as it is, watching the Deep’s life spiral into garbage until he himself is being sexually abused by a normal woman is honestly one of the bolder takes on the show
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Aug 4, 2019 19:07
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Panfilo posted:What did Homelander whisper to Stillwell in the last episode? I don't think it was meant to be intelligible?
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Aug 4, 2019 19:11
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I know it's been mentioned but if you dug Anthony Starr as Homelander you owe it to yourself to check out his turn on Banshee. Edit: HD version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UoiqYbXXD8
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Aug 4, 2019 19:13
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Retrowave Joe posted:It’s funny, you see Pine and Fassbender and I see Jason Bateman and Bradley Cooper, but I can see Pine and Fassbender too. I saw a whole lot of Chris Evans and a little bit of Henry Cavill.
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Aug 4, 2019 19:15
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:it was showing us that he's sad, self-hating, and constantly in his own way, and this fits perfectly with a lot of real-life abusers. Panfilo posted:What did Homelander whisper to Stillwell in the last episode?
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Aug 4, 2019 19:15
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FilthyImp posted:Makes more sense, thanks. Not just supes, either! In the comics, Vought is basically the same Vought-Chance aero manefacturer as the historical company that supplied aircraft (the corsair and cutlass) to the US navy in ww2, and also the original supplier of (fictional) m16's to the army in the Vietnam war. The comic-verse corsairs had a fuel tank sitting right behind the cockpit and a non-functioning ejector seat, to predictable results for the pilots. The m16's had magazines basically made from aluminum foil that failed after a few rounds, with equally predictable results for the troops issued with the weapons. They're just an all around great company, just super affordable in terms of procurement
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Aug 4, 2019 19:23
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FilthyImp posted:Yeah, he's a guy that gets poo poo on because he's relegated to being a joke, so he seizes the chance when he's in a situation that gives him power over someone. Rhyno posted:I know it's been mentioned but if you dug Anthony Starr as Homelander you owe it to yourself to check out his turn on Banshee. 
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Bust Rodd posted:Literally exactly the same way it worked in the show. If Mesmer can just touch you and know without question what crimes you’ve committed, he could solve thousands of cases in a manner of months. quote:I just have a really hard time imagining anyone with a legitimate superpower not finding a way to make money. And in the places where it's not useless, it's most likely just o-kay and not actually that big an advantage. A-train could get a job as a courier, for example, but one dude with super-speed is only a little better than a dozen guys with bicycles at delivering packages; it's not going to earn him super-star money.
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