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The scenes of them all arguing are so great, and getting John Hurt was an absolute masterstroke. He is very much missed.
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My favorite story from "Day of the Doctor" is Moffat telling the story of how John would continually come up to him for reassurance: "So I am officially the Doctor now? I can call myself the Doctor?" and Moffat telling him that yes, he is The Doctor.
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Aug 13, 2019 18:13
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Babylon 5, as much as I love it, still has a hardon for the Great Man theory of history and military intervention solving problems. It's got a much easier far right read than, say, TNG - although that still happens. True, although sustaining that reading requires ignoring or skipping almost all of Season 5. Then again, I understand a lot of people do that. Doctor Who is sometimes susceptible to the same thing, although some of the time the Great Man is the Doctor. Which brings us right back around to Levine's problem with the current Doctor. Astroman posted:The US equivalent of this is when ex-Presidents pal around after they're out of office. Only with slightly more war crimes involved. Also, my personal headcanon is that Jim Henson's The Storyteller was the War Doctor in disguise all along.
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Aug 13, 2019 18:29
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Davros1 posted:My favorite story from "Day of the Doctor" is Moffat telling the story of how John would continually come up to him for reassurance: "So I am officially the Doctor now? I can call myself the Doctor?" and Moffat telling him that yes, he is The Doctor. He liked the show? I didn't know that.
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Aug 13, 2019 21:46
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Davros1 posted:My favorite story from "Day of the Doctor" is Moffat telling the story of how John would continually come up to him for reassurance: "So I am officially the Doctor now? I can call myself the Doctor?" and Moffat telling him that yes, he is The Doctor. I'm picturing that being said in John Hurt's wonderfully craggy voice and it's a beautiful thing.
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Aug 13, 2019 22:22
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Vinylshadow posted:He is sorely missed I honestly legitimately wish Big Finish had never told us that Hurt had signed on for another series of War Doctor stories. I was happier not knowing
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Aug 13, 2019 23:44
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stratofarius posted:He liked the show? I didn't know that. In the 70s, he and Tom Baker used to go drinking. I'm sure John couldn't name a single serial from the show, but I'm going to guess, that as an actor of his caliber, one who was almost always cast in supporting, character roles, it had to be satisfying to be cast as "the hero" for once, and in British pop culture, be cast as the very hero of heroes.
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Aug 13, 2019 23:44
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Shame about the Capaldi finale, otherwise we would be about due for another multi-doc episode. I hope they get one before the revival actors (and Paul) age too much for it to be convincing.
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Aug 14, 2019 00:28
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Paul McGann would age, but he forgot how.
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Aug 14, 2019 00:39
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Senor Tron posted:Shame about the Capaldi finale, otherwise we would be about due for another multi-doc episode. The Doctor aging when meeting his other self was hand waved away in "Time Crash", so it wouldn't be a problem.
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Aug 14, 2019 00:59
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As the Gemini Man technology becomes more affordable, by the time we hit the 60th we might actually be able to get young versions of every living Doctor played by the actual actors running around.
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Aug 14, 2019 02:59
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Every time we try to make a young Tom, the software rejects it with the error message,"Initial subject must be human."
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Aug 14, 2019 03:57
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Davros1 posted:The Doctor aging when meeting his other self was hand waved away in "Time Crash", so it wouldn't be a problem. That whole thing was very tongue in cheek, would be odd for a full episode.
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Aug 14, 2019 03:59
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Astroman posted:As the Gemini Man technology becomes more affordable, by the time we hit the 60th we might actually be able to get young versions of every living Doctor played by the actual actors running around. This though, with a lookalike in a wig and some deep fakery type action with a bit of budget behind it could end up being feasible. Imagine the insanity if a young(er) Tom Baker suddenly showed up in a story.
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Aug 14, 2019 04:01
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Senor Tron posted:Imagine the insanity if a young(er) Tom Baker suddenly showed up in a story. Whittaker: This technology is amazing, how'd you make this work in realtime? Chibnall (frantically leafing through script): He's not in this story.....  Edit: Also I'll take this excuse to post this image I made ages ago again:  Apparently Eccleston's costume was actually fairly close to what Colin originally envisioned for his Doctor. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Aug 14, 2019 |
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Aug 14, 2019 04:11
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Astroman posted:As the Gemini Man technology becomes more affordable, by the time we hit the 60th we might actually be able to get young versions of every living Doctor played by the actual actors running around. It’s already weird enough seeing legit costumes and props on the show, pouring money into real cg de-aging tech just wouldn’t be Doctor Who. I propose you have the older Doctors wear paper or plastic masks of their 1970s/80s selves, the kind that cut your tongue when you try to talk with them on.
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Aug 14, 2019 07:52
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I think giving Who a real budget and technology is allowed but only provided they also commission a new series of Blake's 7 and take away from their budget every time they spend cash on Doctor Who.
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Aug 14, 2019 08:17
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Narsham posted:True, although sustaining that reading requires ignoring or skipping almost all of Season 5. The Telepath arc has the easy interpretation of "never help refugees they will just become terrorists"
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Aug 14, 2019 12:00
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The Telepath arc has the easy interpretation of "never help refugees they will just become terrorists" Just like those EDIT - I still can't believe that two-parter got made
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Aug 14, 2019 13:58
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Davros1 posted:In the 70s, he and Tom Baker used to go drinking. Well now I know where I would go if I had a TARDIS.
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Aug 14, 2019 14:48
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The Telepath arc has the easy interpretation of "never help refugees they will just become terrorists" Only for someone willing to ignore actual text, not just subtext. And forget that the Narn refugees were crucial to the survival of the station. It's possible to see Bester as a hero but there's definitely something wrong with you if you do; he just isn't a one-dimensional villain. Doctor Who has multiple episodes that support that same "refugees bad" interpretation, sadly. Levine probably thinks Gatiss was gaslighting when he claimed that the anti-refugee message of The Unquiet Dead was unintended. (Yes, I did do that intentionally.) The new series episodes involving Time War refugees or Crack refugees pretty routinely make the refugees monsters or invaders.
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Aug 14, 2019 17:11
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York_M_Chan posted:Well now I know where I would go if I had a TARDIS. I'm now imagining a row of several TARDIS parked outside a pub At least six of them are identical and it's the Fourth Doctor crossing his own time stream from various points in time Jerusalem posted:Paul McGann would age, but he forgot how. drat you repeated application of amnesia! 
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Aug 14, 2019 17:13
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Narsham posted:The new series episodes involving Time War refugees or Crack refugees pretty routinely make the refugees monsters or invaders. Weirdly the much-maligned (and mostly justly so) Zygon episode is somewhat better in this regard, as the Zygons settled on Earth peacefully as part of a treaty and it's an extremist faction (and not the entire Zygon race, and don't get me started on the science fiction tendency to treat alien species as simple monocultures) that's causing the trouble while most of them would just be happy getting on with their lives. It's still got a lot of awful subtext (such as the extremist faction's main grievance being that they want to still maintain their identity as a non-human species and this is somehow bad) but it's marginally more nuanced than most of the other "welp our planet blew up TIME TO KILL ALL HUMANS" stories the show's done.
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Aug 14, 2019 17:40
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Jerusalem posted:Every time we try to make a young Tom, the software rejects it with the error message,"Initial subject must be human." This is why we had to use the wax statue in Day of the Doctor Reality rejected all their other methods
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Aug 14, 2019 17:41
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docbeard posted:Weirdly the much-maligned (and mostly justly so) Zygon episode is somewhat better in this regard, as the Zygons settled on Earth peacefully as part of a treaty and it's an extremist faction (and not the entire Zygon race, and don't get me started on the science fiction tendency to treat alien species as simple monocultures) that's causing the trouble while most of them would just be happy getting on with their lives. Then again, it's a Peter Harness script.
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Aug 14, 2019 21:29
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Aug 15, 2019 01:20
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I can't even imagine how somebody could do something like that without stopping to think,"What the gently caress is wrong with me?"
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Aug 15, 2019 02:10
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"This'll show them!"
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Aug 15, 2019 03:21
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Aug 15, 2019 03:28
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That hashtag. Doctor whore solution? I mean, I know hoe it’s supposed to be read but put some capital letters in there.
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Aug 15, 2019 07:04
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The Doctor Whore....Solution?
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Aug 15, 2019 08:02
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Edward Mass posted:The Doctor Whore....Solution? This sounds like a counterargument to the Madonna/Whore Complex.
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Aug 15, 2019 08:40
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Edward Mass posted:The Doctor Whore....Solution? Someone's let Bill Baggs have a camera again.
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Aug 15, 2019 10:05
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To be fair, if "Doctor Whore" isn't already the title of a low budget porn knock off from 30 years ago...
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Aug 15, 2019 13:11
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Astroman posted:To be fair, if "Doctor Whore" isn't already the title of a low budget porn knock off from 30 years ago... It’s not low-budget, and it was 10 years ago. Fil5000 posted:Someone's let Bill Baggs have a camera again. I’m glad SOMEONE got my reference.
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Aug 15, 2019 14:59
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Fil5000 posted:Someone's let Bill Baggs have a camera again. He was finally allowed to make a sequel to Zygon: When Being You Just Isn't Enough
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Aug 15, 2019 15:29
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Edward Mass posted:It’s not low-budget, and it was 10 years ago. The Airzone Solution is something of a running gag for me, so I'd be remiss if I didn't spot it. Also it's on Prime Video now.
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Aug 15, 2019 15:35
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So youtube has recommended me a video saying that Chibnall and Whittaker are quitting and the BBC are brining back Tennant and Rose Tyler. I'm not going to watch fascists whine about Doctor Who for 15 minutes, so I'm just going to assume this is a crock of poo poo. Also lol that these people are now nostalgic for the era of Russel 'Gay Welsh Agenda' T Davies. The comments are full of people saying now Boris is PM the BBC won't get away with it's left wing agenda, which given the BBC has spent the last decade plus as a mouthpiece for the conservative party, is extremely crazy.
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Aug 15, 2019 16:19
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Watched the reanimated "The Macra Terror" and enjoyed it immensely I can see why/how he inspired so many of the future actors in their roles as the Doctor
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