Wrestling Fraudcasts: OJ was a wrestling fan. Please don't ask how I know this stuff.

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lost my old email: Jun 20, 2019

Price Check posted:

Who is going to start the $2 million gofundme for Bryan and Vinny to review TNA?

i think bryan reviewed most of it as it happened and it would be cruel to make him go back

# ? Aug 17, 2019 00:21

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# ? May 30, 2024 23:22

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

how much to make them review just the jeff jarrett matches from TNA

# ? Aug 17, 2019 00:23

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

The 2019 Christmas show should be them drinking while watching Heroes of Wrestling.

# ? Aug 17, 2019 01:18

OctoberCountry: Oct 9, 2012

Garrett/Dave Observer 90210 review :siren:

# ? Aug 17, 2019 01:32

Low Desert Punk: Jul 4, 2012; i have absolutely no fucking money

that story on F4D about Billy Kidman accidentally hanging himself for real and going unconscious is horrifying. He could've died in the ring on live PPV

Low Desert Punk fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Aug 17, 2019

# ? Aug 17, 2019 02:25

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

rovert posted:

Sami Zayn and his wife did Renee Young's podcast today:

I legit had no idea that Sami Zayn was married, which probably isn't that weird a thing to not know but I am surprised that I don't recall it ever coming up before.

# ? Aug 17, 2019 02:44

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

Jerusalem posted:

I legit had no idea that Sami Zayn was married, which probably isn't that weird a thing to not know but I am surprised that I don't recall it ever coming up before.

I was thinking the same thing

# ? Aug 17, 2019 03:06

Incessant Excess: Aug 15, 2005; Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

Jerusalem posted:

I legit had no idea that Sami Zayn was married, which probably isn't that weird a thing to not know but I am surprised that I don't recall it ever coming up before.

Probably cause his on-screen character gives off very strong virgin vibes.

# ? Aug 17, 2019 03:39

Tomahawk: Aug 13, 2003; HE KNOWS

I think it�d be funny if Sami�s wife became an onscreen character and got into the cucking storylines. Such good poo poo

# ? Aug 17, 2019 03:45

Defiance Industries: Jul 22, 2010; A five-star manufacturer

Vince will saddle Sami with both the cuck gimmick and the Red Rooster gimmick. Everyone get ready for his new catchphrase, "cuck-a-doodle-doo"

# ? Aug 17, 2019 03:51

rovert: Jun 10, 2013

The Beverly Hills 90210 talk in WOR today.

# ? Aug 17, 2019 12:37

Incessant Excess: Aug 15, 2005; Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

They really didn't set this up well for people not familiar with the show. Is the reboot a show about the making of a new season of 90210 where the actors play themselves or is just a continuation of the old show set 20 years later?

# ? Aug 17, 2019 13:05

Davros1: Jul 19, 2007; You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible

rovert posted:

https://twitter.com/GoodBrother454/status/1161894623054372864

The AWA had the America's Championship, NWA had the US Title. Wade didn't know poo poo.

# ? Aug 17, 2019 13:43

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

rovert posted:

The Beverly Hills 90210 talk in WOR today.

That was loving incredible. I know nothing about whatever this new show is but it was a joy to listen to :allears:

# ? Aug 17, 2019 14:49

LividLiquid: Apr 13, 2002

So there was a big Dave story and a big Bryan story. One of 'em was NXT on USA. What was the other?

# ? Aug 18, 2019 02:05

STING 64: Oct 20, 2006

Davros1 posted:

The AWA had the America's Championship, NWA had the US Title. Wade didn't know poo poo.

the names would more or less be interchangable back then. it was commonplace for nwa us title matches to be announced as "for the americas belt" "for the heavyweight championship of these united states" etc

# ? Aug 18, 2019 02:06

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

LividLiquid posted:

So there was a big Dave story and a big Bryan story. One of 'em was NXT on USA. What was the other?

Paisley can count to 15 now :siren:

# ? Aug 18, 2019 08:58

Punch McLightning: Sep 19, 2005; you know what that means; Grimey Drawer

gently caress em up, Paisley.

# ? Aug 18, 2019 09:39

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

Finished up that Vince Russo interview with Dave from 99 in the WOL Archive posted a day or so back. One caller just absolutely rakes him over the coals about the Juventeud/Liger booking being racist, it was quite a thing to listen to (also maddening as Russo was going,"What? How is that racist? I don't see how it's racist!" the entire time).

# ? Aug 18, 2019 10:15

UltimoDragonQuest: Oct 5, 2011

Jerusalem posted:

Finished up that Vince Russo interview with Dave from 99 in the WOL Archive posted a day or so back. One caller just absolutely rakes him over the coals about the Juventeud/Liger booking being racist, it was quite a thing to listen to (also maddening as Russo was going,"What? How is that racist? I don't see how it's racist!" the entire time).

Bro, it's good writing because the tequila bottle was introduced and paid off later!

# ? Aug 18, 2019 13:54

Gaz-L: Jan 28, 2009

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

Bro, it's good writing because the tequila bottle was introduced and paid off later!

I sweah, it's classic hero's journey, ya nevah heard of Joseph Campbell, bro?

(Let's be honest, Russo watched a 3 minute Robert McKee clip at best)

# ? Aug 18, 2019 14:03

El Gallinero Gros: Mar 17, 2010

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

Bro, it's good writing because the tequila bottle was introduced and paid off later!

Chekhov's hooch?

# ? Aug 18, 2019 14:21

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

Bro, it's good writing because the tequila bottle was introduced and paid off later!

"But why'd you have him introduce a tequila bottle earlier in the first place?"
"I don't understand? Him giving it to me earlier is why it was important later!"
"...but why'd you have him give it to you in the first place?"
"I don't see the problem?"

Also his talk about how the problem with Mexican and Japanese wrestlers is that they lack personality, then commenting about how now he's met them and discovered they have personality so NOW he can use them was soooooo close to him become self-aware it hurts.

# ? Aug 18, 2019 14:32

Punch McLightning: Sep 19, 2005; you know what that means; Grimey Drawer

I'm reading through old WONs and this was in the letters section of the January 8, 1991 issue. I added the paragraph breaks and bolded a line towards the end because holy poo poo.

quote:

KARL GOTCH

I saw the 9/17 issue in which the words of Harry White, some other nameless wonder and Bruno Sammartino were printed. I would have shrugged all this off but being called a liar is a stab at my integrity. I always say that the truth only hurts a fool, but I've found out the world is full of fools and is exemplified by Bruno Sammartino, who still lives on Cloud Nine. He asked Joe Malenko for my telephone number, but never called me. It is obvious from the wordings of the letter that the nameless wonder and Bruno Sammartino are one and the same. I had to laugh when it was said it was a waste of space printing what was called "garbage." As I gather, I've been called an old man, but if I remember correctly, there isn't that much of an age difference between myself and Bruno Sammartino.

To set the record straight, I have only met Sammartino twice. In 1960, I saw him in the ring in Sunnyside Gardens where I was sent by the promoter who first brought me to the United States. I'll never forget it. He was billed as the Italian Strongman. Kola Kwariani, Boris Malenko and I were standing behind the scenes. His opponent put a front facelock on him and he was going to pick him up and throw him off. Lc and behold when he picked him up, he fell flat on his rear end. Malenko and I almost died laughing. Kwariani, on the other hand, seemed to have aged ten years right then and there for he was Sammartino's promoter.

The second time was in 1965 in Toronto's Maple Leaf Gardens which is what I was talking about before took place. It must have really hurt Sammartino, the champ with the sugar-bag hold finish for me to be labeled as the greatest technical wrestler. It was written that I was slow, boring and had no charisma. Amazing. That fits like a round peg in a square hole. A guy who has great technique is always fun to watch and fast because speed comes with science. You have to know what to do, how to do it and when to do it.

About never getting over, well, when you can wrestle, everyone in the business considers you a threat. When I first came to the United States, the old man I worked for had some photos taken with a $1,000 bill on my chest. Well, you can imagine how that worked out. It was considered a challenge and in the long run stifled my career. Ted Beresford, an English promoter who knew me from Europe told me once, "What the hell are you doing in the United States? You're the top man in Europe and made good money." As for Why I journeyed trans-atianticaiiy, I was curious as to what America had to offer. All I heard about morning, noon and night was America, and that's what I wanted to see.

As far as being a bitter old man, I'm a happy old guy doing what I like best: exercising, taking care of my dog and teaching young boys how to wrestle. To quote what Ray Steele told Lou Thesz--"If you like to wrestle, learn how and then learn how to make money with it."

About the public in the Western Hemisphere who didn't come to see me, I was already established as the top man all over Europe. established myself in places where you had to do it with your ability in the ring and without the help of television, which brainwashes you down people's throats. Like I said, I don't want to expose the game and how it is played because if you cut your nose, you cut your face. Everyone knew what kind of talent the New York territory has always been built on. They've never allowed good talent to shine because it would kill their champ. In Japan, you had to do it with ability because they don't get into gimmicks. I got over there like a house on fire. I debuted in 1961 and today they still call me the God of wrestling. The last time I wrestled there, when I was 58 years old, one of Stu Hart's sons came to me after the match and told me he had heard a lot about me, but would never have thought I was that good. I also heard that a lot of weightlifters changed their methods of working out after they saw me perform in that match. How's that for a slow, boring old man?

I also heard from a wrestler who grappled with the Italian strongman that when he short arm scissored him, Sammartino couldn't even lift him off the ground. The wrestler told him that "Gotch can do that easily." Sammartino's style did more damage to Osaka than what the atomic bomb did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It took nearly seven years to draw crowds back to that arena. Sammartino was a strongman who wasn't strong, a wrestler that if it took one hold to go around the world, he couldn't get across the street. I found out, not to my surprise, that nobody had anything good to say about Sammartino when I was in New York and he was out of the picture. It sure made me think. I've met several great athletes, but Sammartino was only good for making poo poo out of spaghetti. Talking makes a man answer. The Observer goes on the reputation for telling the truth, so I challenge you to print this. Man enough to sign my name.

Karl Gotch

Odessa, Florida

DM: Just to clear up one point. The name withheld letter about the Gotch interviews was from someone connected with the wrestling business but it was definitely not from Bruno Sammartino.

# ? Aug 19, 2019 01:07

remusclaw: Dec 8, 2009

Karl had a hell of a way with words, that last paragraph is quite the diss track.

# ? Aug 19, 2019 02:10

GoutPatrol: Oct 17, 2009; *Stupid Babby*

remusclaw posted:

Karl had a hell of a way with words, that last paragraph is quite the diss track.

This is something that I wish Dave could pontificate more on, but we all know the answer would be "Gotch thought Bruno was a poo poo wrestler, and said so openly, that's who he was."

# ? Aug 19, 2019 02:28

Lone Goat: Apr 16, 2003; When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.

GoutPatrol posted:

This is something that I wish Dave could pontificate more on, but we all know the answer would be "Gotch thought Bruno was a poo poo wrestler, and said so openly, that's who he was."

is there any more to it than that?

# ? Aug 19, 2019 02:40

Punch McLightning: Sep 19, 2005; you know what that means; Grimey Drawer

Lone Goat posted:

is there any more to it than that?

I sent in a mailbag question about this.

# ? Aug 19, 2019 04:06

MassRafTer: May 26, 2001; BAEST MODE!!!

Lone Goat posted:

is there any more to it than that?

The UWFi had just restarted and calling out all the other champions as fake was part of the style. Doesn't shock me that Karl Gotch was doing the same of legends.

# ? Aug 19, 2019 04:17

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

It boggles my mind that anybody would say Bruno was disliked/unpopular in New York :stare:

# ? Aug 19, 2019 05:33

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7Rnp1Cxip8

# ? Aug 19, 2019 07:56

Punch McLightning: Sep 19, 2005; you know what that means; Grimey Drawer

Granny finding out about Eddie Guerrero�s death and his selling an injury was peak Granny.

# ? Aug 19, 2019 14:43

rovert: Jun 10, 2013

If you want advanced Vince will ruin NXT paranoia Sunday's Wrestling Observer Live will scratch that itch.

Bryan Alvarez rightfully buried the NXT Breakout Tournament Final on today's Bryan and Vinny. ACH and Trevor Lee doing the most boring WWE match possible. Not good. Especially when eventually going against AEW.

# ? Aug 19, 2019 14:52

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

It was really a terrible idea to take 8 indie guys and give them all brand new very generic names and showcase them across 7 largely identical matches against each other

# ? Aug 19, 2019 14:59

Malcolm Excellent: May 20, 2007; Buglord

jesus WEP posted:

It was really a terrible idea to take 8 indie guys and give them all brand new very generic names and showcase them across 7 largely identical matches against each other

This really happened? OOF

# ? Aug 19, 2019 15:22

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

I don�t watch NXT but that�s my understanding of what The Breakout Tournament was

# ? Aug 19, 2019 15:24

Incessant Excess: Aug 15, 2005; Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

That is, in fact, exactly what it was.

# ? Aug 19, 2019 15:25

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

In the long run it�s probably better for the guys because at least the ACH name doesn�t have that WWE stank all over it

# ? Aug 19, 2019 15:25

Gaz-L: Jan 28, 2009

jesus WEP posted:

It was really a terrible idea to take 8 indie guys and give them all brand new very generic names and showcase them across 7 largely identical matches against each other

Gotta teach these play wrasslers how to work, bro.

# ? Aug 19, 2019 15:38

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# ? May 30, 2024 23:22

Low Desert Punk: Jul 4, 2012; i have absolutely no fucking money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D002w_IWUo0

here's the Tatanka/Mountie match B&V were raving about. It really is good

# ? Aug 19, 2019 20:00

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