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bewbies posted:Last year a fellow wrote a really incredible cookbook that anyone with even a passing interest in culinary history should buy, right now. Hell yes. Ordered.
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Is there an equivalent of Wages of Destruction for Japan?
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Gonna toot me own horn a bit here: https://twitter.com/Lord_Denton/status/1166942350708547584
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JcDent posted:Gonna toot me own horn a bit here:  The French Puma Orchidée (Orchid) Battlefield Observation helicopter comes from the acronym "Observatoire Radar Cohérent Héliporté d’Investigation" Nope, me neither.
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Aug 29, 2019 12:57
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Le dongdar.
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CoffeeBooze posted:I started down the rabbit hole of BBQ a few years ago and its taken me all over the place, even going so far as to start hunting so I can bring in my own meat. For some reason I never gave the history of BBQ much thought. Im really looking forward to reading this. Thanks! Michael Twitty is awesome and food history in general is crazy interesting. I'm actually doing an oral history project this semester about how BBQ restaurants in Virginia, and how we ended up with a whole mishmash of styles here. I have some guesses that it has to do with the post-WW2 economic boom and people moving up from the deep south, but we'll see.
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Oh I bet you could do a great ethnography on regional US BBQ variations and socioeconomic conditions that created them. Especially since pretty much every major ethnic or cultural group in the US has some tradition of outdoor grilling.
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zoux posted:Oh I bet you could do a great ethnography on regional US BBQ variations and socioeconomic conditions that created them. Especially since pretty much every major ethnic or cultural group in the US has some tradition of outdoor grilling. 
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HEY GUNS posted:i love the past I can believe it. The war was so horrible in eastern Europe I'd have been surprised if there was not a bunch of low-medium intensity conflicts. Stuff I'm reading right now: Rockets and People, Vol. 1. A free ebook translated by NASA, it's the first of a four-volume memoir of a engineer, Boris Chertok, who was a key Soviet rocket engineer. It's the 1930s right now and the great purges are devastating whole branches of scientific endeavor.
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Arquinsiel posted:Yeah... pretty much.. but not us Go get a cheeky nandos about it
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zoux posted:Go get a cheeky nandos about it
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Sadly that bastard sun until recently* makes a poor show. Which is a shame because goddamn I want BBQ even more now. This thread gave me the 3AM munchies last night. *due to the wonders of climate change!
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Phanatic posted:Is there an equivalent of Wages of Destruction for Japan? I don't know about the economy at large, but Anthony Tully of Shattered Sword fame wrote an excellent synopsis on his website (which has tons of great information) on just how hosed Japan was in an industrial war: http://www.combinedfleet.com/economic.htm
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Grumio posted:I don't know about the economy at large, but Anthony Tully of Shattered Sword fame wrote an excellent synopsis on his website (which has tons of great information) on just how hosed Japan was in an industrial war: Looking at the section on carriers is even funnier when you realize even with relative carrier parity as a result of the Japanese sinking every carrier at midway and never losing any of their own after the battle or during the entire war they still have around 50% fewer carrier planes available than the Americans due to carrier size and other variables. Even with every advantage it isn't a mountain to climb so much as reaching the moon. zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Arquinsiel posted:That's also not us, but I may as well really. Our heritage is burgers burned into hockey pucks and sausages blackened on the outside yet somehow still raw on the inside. While being rained on.
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feedmegin posted:Our heritage is burgers burned into hockey pucks and sausages blackened on the outside yet somehow still raw on the inside. While being rained on. This reminds me of the great Wolfgang the Bratty Man of the Cold War.
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feedmegin posted:Our heritage is burgers burned into hockey pucks and sausages blackened on the outside yet somehow still raw on the inside. While being rained on. If you include getting attacked by black flies and mosquitoes it would the true story of my people.
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feedmegin posted:Our heritage is burgers burned into hockey pucks and sausages blackened on the outside yet somehow still raw on the inside. While being rained on. Simply place the pot of water upon the grill, once it reaches 100 C drop the sausages in
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Who wants to watch a bunch of dads try to break obsolete military equipment? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBxdTkddHaE
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chitoryu12 posted:This reminds me of the great Wolfgang the Bratty Man of the Cold War. Time to repost the canonical Wolfgang story, from ARRSE. Includes mild punctuation/typo-fixing. (I like to imagine the three main British characters as George, Baldrick, and Blackadder.) quote:As a brand new Troop Commander [Royal Corps of Transport] on my first exercise [on Soltau]. On the first night move into a harbour area, everything seemed to be going swimmingly. Good light discipline, no bumps. Total silence, less the roar of the Drops. Marvellous.
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Siivola posted:Who wants to watch a bunch of dads try to break obsolete military equipment? This is cool, but the made-for-television expositionary conversations at the beginning are driving me nuts. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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How did militaries before things like photographs and dog tags go about catching deserters? Like if I'm a frenchman from Picardy in 1793 and successfully ditch my uniform for some dutch peasant clothes at the siege of Maastricht, am I just hoping I don't run into anyone who'd recognize me? Are non-local francophone men just assumed to be deserters until proven otherwise? Do I get to try my hand at a dutch shibboleth? How many rando francophone men get taken for deserters and how many deserters get home?
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FrangibleCover posted:
French love their backronyms. Case in point, when MN rebuilt their Rubis SSNs they named the upgrade Amethyste - Amelioration tactique hydrodynamique silence transmission ecoute.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:How did militaries before things like photographs and dog tags go about catching deserters? Like if I'm a frenchman from Picardy in 1793 and successfully ditch my uniform for some dutch peasant clothes at the siege of Maastricht, am I just hoping I don't run into anyone who'd recognize me? Are non-local francophone men just assumed to be deserters until proven otherwise? Do I get to try my hand at a dutch shibboleth? How many rando francophone men get taken for deserters and how many deserters get home? in the 18th century you pay civilians to turn them in. ilya berkovich has a graph arguing that the more you pay civilians to bring in deserters, the fewer people will attempt to desert because of the perception of deterrence. after years of soldiering they have different body language, apparently you can tell
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Before photographs, descriptions of people would include a ton of detail on their appearance, gait, clothing (most people had little clothing to change into), accent and languages spoken, etc. As much as everyone could remember. If you had an ambiguous situation, you'd use eyewitnesses to an incident and people who knew the person to corroborate their identity.
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An olde bounty hunting story could be sweet as hell
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By the way, do we have WWII stories of liberated locals helping out the Allies or whatever? Like, a US unit liberates Pomme-dy-Terre and some old shepherd comes "oui oui, amis Americaines, ze Boche, zey have a posission in ze hill, but me, I know some path secraite, follow moi" or something.Trin Tragula posted:Time to repost the canonical Wolfgang story, from ARRSE. Includes mild punctuation/typo-fixing. (I like to imagine the three main British characters as George, Baldrick, and Blackadder.) I'm so loving glad to find out that he's real and not just some copypasta. FrangibleCover posted:
Everyone just focused on the CEASAR part and nobody saw the inherent humour in the French naming their future Euro artillery piece just "truck with a gun." Like, compare it to Eurofighter Typhoon, for example.
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guys, it's because orchid is greek for balls
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just found out that hitting people with rifles is called butt-stroking
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JcDent posted:By the way, do we have WWII stories of liberated locals helping out the Allies or whatever? Like, a US unit liberates Pomme-dy-Terre and some old shepherd comes "oui oui, amis Americaines, ze Boche, zey have a posission in ze hill, but me, I know some path secraite, follow moi" or something. I worked with an ancient bartender 20 years ago. He was a French Algerian Jew and took to the hills when France was invaded. He fought as a partisan until Operation Torch. Hitched a ride to England and joined the Free French and got trained as a tank driver. Lost 3 of 4 from his platoon in an ambush during the push to Paris. Entered Paris triumphantly in the armor column, got super drunk, pretty sure he hosed and blacked out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9o_Gras_Group
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Veritek83 posted:Michael Twitty is awesome and food history in general is crazy interesting. I'm actually doing an oral history project this semester about how BBQ restaurants in Virginia, and how we ended up with a whole mishmash of styles here. I have some guesses that it has to do with the post-WW2 economic boom and people moving up from the deep south, but we'll see. Some of my favorite episodes of the History of the World In 100 Objects podcast were the food related stuff. MacGregor describing how hunter gatherers coming together for a meal around the Jomon pot might have been an important part of forming and reinforcing cohesive communities was really interesting. Eating and it’s communal aspects are such an integral part of our lives that we kind of take them for granted. They’re also a huge part of our history. Hell, don’t the Vindolanda tablets or some other ancient letters home from a solider include bitching about the food?
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CoffeeBooze posted:Hell, don’t the Vindolanda tablets or some other ancient letters home from a solider include bitching about the food? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/science/send-more-wine-pottery-archaeology.html
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If I rummaged around enough I might be able to turn up a letter from a friend serving in Afghanistan who asked me to help him smuggle in booze by mailing him Listerine bottles that had been filled with whiskey. It’s kind of remarkable how consistent soldiers are across history.
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My grandpa was a generic dude in 1939 and a bleeding-heart nazi in 1946, apparently. Some soldiers aren't always the same.
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CoffeeBooze posted:Hell, don’t the Vindolanda tablets or some other ancient letters home from a solider include bitching about the food? I mean, they were stationed in Britain, and the North at that. Probably they were sick of chips with gravy.
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feedmegin posted:I mean, they were stationed in Britain, and the North at that. Probably they were sick of chips with gravy. This was before the Columbian Exchange so they didn't even have any chips yet. Just gravy.
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Pastinak make good chips. E. I just realised that they are called parsnip in English... Molentik fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Aug 30, 2019 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:My grandpa was a generic dude in 1939 and a bleeding-heart nazi in 1946, apparently. Some soldiers aren't always the same. Because mine never talked about the war, for some years I thought he was a collaborator. Took me a while to learn that's the normal thing.
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