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Konstantin posted:Grainger can charge high prices because they are one of the only companies in their market that will reliably ship what you ordered on time. Other companies are cheaper, but will either have unexpected delays or will ship you the wrong thing. When you work in an industrial environment, delays can cost thousands of dollars, and you do not want to be the one explaining that the line is down because you tried to save a few hundred dollars by using an unproven supplier. I use the MSC Big Book for my needs. I just got 600 8" zip ties and a set of metric and SAE ball end Allen keys for around 40 bucks delivered second day by private courier. Not some poor soul working for Amazon. Just a legit 65 year old dude that delivered my parts. He even found a key that I misplaced and came back because he noticed that I have a Dodge and it was a Dodge key that he saw on the street. Must have fallen out of my jacket. MSC is the best. The Big Book is the most paper that you can get for free. I used to order them to use as a monitor stand. They're always free. They make good ballast too. Grainger is same day though which is handy. I used to order through them too but MSC tends to have better prices.
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sirbeefalot posted:If only they all had an online catalog as well made as McMaster-Carr. If you were locked in an apartment with a credit card, a source of potable water, and a phone that only went to the McMaster app, you could actually live quite comfortably until you died from a vitamin deficiency. (They sell office snacks including energy bars and beef jerky and Gatorade packets. And the energy bars have vitamin c, so no scurvy!)
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Phy posted:If you were locked in an apartment with a credit card, a source of potable water, and a phone that only went to the McMaster app, you could actually live quite comfortably until you died from a vitamin deficiency. (They sell office snacks including energy bars and beef jerky and Gatorade packets. And the energy bars have vitamin c, so no scurvy!) Alternatively, you could just order the tools to get out, but any prison is just in your mind, I suppose.
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Phy posted:If you were locked in an apartment with a credit card, a source of potable water, and a phone that only went to the McMaster app, you could actually live quite comfortably until you died from a vitamin deficiency. (They sell office snacks including energy bars and beef jerky and Gatorade packets. And the energy bars have vitamin c, so no scurvy!)  The other nutritionally‐relevant items are non‐dairy creamer, cocoa, and Gatorade. The Cliff Bars are fortified and key here.  Eat mostly those. Supplement it with some jerky for trace nutrients it might have that a vegetarian diet lacks. I suppose you could eat some almonds to pull your fat:carbohydrates ratio up. A kid ate nothing but potato chips, crisps, and white bread for an entire decade, and his major symptom was losing vision and hearing due to B12 deficiency. You might not live to ninety, but you’ll do better than that kid. Platystemon has a new favorite as of 06:49 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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Sep 11, 2019 06:47
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Chemmy posted:Expensive tools own when you don’t pay for them. whoops, lost my post it was basically me being jealous of people getting fancy multimeters from work in the electronics megathread. Unperson_47 has a new favorite as of 07:02 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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Sep 11, 2019 06:58
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For automotive and household work, any decent digital multimeter will do. Maybe something a tad bit better for electronics. Graphing is a nice feature. OTOH, when we go over 6kv, yeah get a Fluke. Even if one of the cheaper genuine Chinese market ones.
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Sep 11, 2019 07:19
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Unperson_47 posted:whoops, lost my post What thread is this?
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rndmnmbr posted:For automotive and household work, any decent digital multimeter will do. Maybe something a tad bit better for electronics. Graphing is a nice feature. Yeah I know all that stuff is beyond my needs but, drat, oscilloscopes are cool. I also read the fishing megathread which is its own money sink. I use a 10+ year old multimeter that I probably bought for $12 and tie my own flies with hair from dogs and cats, feathers from chickens, and use a $30 Wal-mart fly rod combo but it's still fun to look at the expensive stuff I'd never need. Cojawfee posted:What thread is this? DIY › Release the Magic Blue Smoke, it's the Learning Electronics MEGATHREAD Unperson_47 has a new favorite as of 07:44 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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Sep 11, 2019 07:29
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Best thing I saw in regards to the old Snapon truck coming onto our mine site was the random drug testing truck rolling in behind him and not only catching a few from my crew and calling police, but Mr Snapon got rounded up too.
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Sep 11, 2019 08:29
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Unperson_47 posted:I also read the fishing megathread which is its own money sink. Ahahahahahahaha... *weeps* I have sunk so much money into crankbaits only to watch little kids with their first cheap rod and reel and a box of earthworms outfish me. No, no, I must be firm, committed. Baitfishing is lazy fishing, lure fishing requires discipline and skill and is the One True Way. Else I have wasted thousands for nothing. I must be firm, I must...
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ReidRansom posted:Professional tools are never normally-priced What are you talking about? They threw in a second comma, that’s a screaming deal.
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Sep 11, 2019 08:59
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ReidRansom posted:Professional tools are never normally-priced I just noticed the picture isn't the exact same item. This particular wrench is actually 6 feet long :o
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Sep 11, 2019 10:02
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Sometimes the expensive tools are just genuinely the better one. The wire tools networking folks use come to mind; the best way I ever heard it put was that you can just put up for the $75 crimpers right out of the gate or pay $5 to find out why you want the $75 crimpers. Professional, high end tools are probably made of better material and will hold up under a lot more abuse. This of course doesn't matter all that much for household use but good tools that will last a long time no matter how you abuse them don't come cheap.
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Sep 11, 2019 11:41
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Jerry Cotton posted:Windows sucked because it didn't have ATM built in like the OS of champions, OS/2. Yeah this is like ten pages ago, but one of my college roommates was a developer/writer/programmer (I went to an artsy-fartsy school, I don't know the correct terminology) for OS/2, and he said the job was definitely paying the bills, but that they all knew no matter how good it was, it was unlikely to supplant the existing King poo poo operating systems...namely, MSDOS and the remainders. This would have been 1993. Before the big TV marketing push with the nuns and poo poo, I asked him how they plan to sell the OS (he worked for IBM), and he looked at me and said, "BUY OS/2! BUY OS/2! BUY OS/2!" And that became our catch phrase for the next few months. He got a shitload of test hardware and software, so we always had the bleeding-edge technology in our apartment. I was a film/TV major, and I had a really nice home-entertainment setup, with a massive Sony Trinitron that I actually kept in working condition until 2002 or 2003, when it finally died. 5.1 Bose surround sound system, which I bought at Incredible Universe, for the love of God. And my roomie was literally the first person I knew to own a CD-ROM drive. We played Myst.
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Sep 11, 2019 12:31
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ToxicSlurpee posted:but good tools that will last a long time no matter how you abuse them don't come cheap. Very true, but Snap-on is all marketing at this point. That and easy credit to new mechanics who don't know how deep the rabbit hole is gonna go. Proto, Armstrong, and S&K are excellent professional tools at about half the price.
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Sep 11, 2019 12:34
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Professional, high end tools are probably made of better material and will hold up under a lot more abuse. This of course doesn't matter all that much for household use but good tools that will last a long time no matter how you abuse them don't come cheap.
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Sep 11, 2019 14:55
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There's a snap-on truck guy that just moved into my neighborhood. I live in a rural area about 20 minutes outside of the nearest town, so all of the roads coming in or out are really curvy and narrow. It ain't fun whenever I meet this guy going the other direction on the road. Those trucks are freakin' huge!
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Sep 11, 2019 14:56
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Snap on tool trucks are cursed, the only way to lift it is to challenge them to a return, of a broken tool with cheater marks...if you get them to take it back, they vanish forever, if you fail, you become the snap-on driver.
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Sep 11, 2019 15:05
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Grainger will open the store for you if you need something from them when they are closed. It's $75 bucks to do so.
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Sep 11, 2019 15:08
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Lincoln posted:Yeah this is like ten pages ago, but one of my college roommates was a developer/writer/programmer (I went to an artsy-fartsy school, I don't know the correct terminology) for OS/2, and he said the job was definitely paying the bills, but that they all knew no matter how good it was, it was unlikely to supplant the existing King poo poo operating systems...namely, MSDOS and the remainders. This would have been 1993. OS/2 was big with places that had Big Iron because a) their computer was IBM anyway b) they literally didn't give a poo poo what their microcomputers cost or ran as long as they had a terminal emulator to use the computer for actual work, a word processor of some sort for the typists, and maybe a video game for the higher-ups; so they probably went with what they knew - IBM c) it actually did networking well and was stable compared to The Single Other Alternative d) Mac? No thanks I'm not hungry. e: I mean it was big in certain circles because that's what IBM microcomputers shipped with at the time, unless otherwise specified.
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Mr-Spain posted:Grainger will open the store for you if you need something from them when they are closed. It's $75 bucks to do so. At my job we have to reduce the number of orders because purchasing says processing a PO costs $500, so we have a 90 day consolidation period and then a 30 day internet bid process where because you ordered stuff by its grainger number, always ends up being grainger, and so in a mere 120 days plus shipping you get your wrenches shipped to Houston, and then the next time you're there you can pick it up, unless you tried to rush the order, in which case it will end up where you WERE and it will reach rotterdam or norfolk or wherever just as you pull into houston
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shovelbum posted:At my job we have to reduce the number of orders because purchasing says processing a PO costs $500, so we have a 90 day consolidation period and then a 30 day internet bid process where because you ordered stuff by its grainger number, always ends up being grainger, and so in a mere 120 days plus shipping you get your wrenches shipped to Houston, and then the next time you're there you can pick it up, unless you tried to rush the order, in which case it will end up where you WERE and it will reach rotterdam or norfolk or wherever just as you pull into houston Free market efficiency
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Humphreys posted:Best thing I saw in regards to the old Snapon truck coming onto our mine site was the random drug testing truck rolling in behind him and not only catching a few from my crew and calling police, but Mr Snapon got rounded up too. How? Why would the snapon guy be drug tested by a truck at a mine site? Did snapon and the mine go halfsies on testing?
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I would read a thread about Snap-On Stories.
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Snap-On, apply directly to the forehead
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Unperson_47 posted:I would read a thread about Snap-On Stories. Same, I need to find a girl to try that with. Edit: misread.
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Bobby Digital posted:Same, I need to find a girl to try that with. Find the girl with OEM equipment on board. Also I really want to go blow $300 on some fancy screwdrivers now
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Sep 11, 2019 20:09
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My Lovely Horse posted:Even for occasionally household use I'd argue you should splurge for something good, ever since I got gifted a nice set of screwdrivers/bits as opposed to a cheap one. It's all I ever use anymore. I got a cheap screwdriver and bit set and it's also all I ever use.
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Laserjet 4P posted:So I found this somewhere. Dragging this from years ago to say that I had one that was called the VTech PreComputer 1000. It had some cartridges that you could load programs on, also supported BASIC and had a guide on creating programs with it. It even had some sample programs that you could type in yourself, painfully on the tiny screen. I can still hear the sounds it made in my head.
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Sep 11, 2019 20:39
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You don't need to go crazy on household tools if you don't rely on them for a living, but at least go something decent and not made in China. I love my Weras. Felo is also good.
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ReidRansom posted:You don't need to go crazy on household tools if you don't rely on them for a living, but at least go something decent and not made in China. I love my Weras. Felo is also good. Cheap tools are literally the best because when some other worker steals them it doesn't feel as bad.
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On the other hand, my father bought the cheapest hole punch in the shop once and it shattered the first time he tried to use it. Some tools you can cheap out on and some you can't
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Nocheez posted:Dragging this from years ago to say that I had one that was called the VTech PreComputer 1000. It had some cartridges that you could load programs on, also supported BASIC and had a guide on creating programs with it. It even had some sample programs that you could type in yourself, painfully on the tiny screen. I can still hear the sounds it made in my head. I had a similar little computer like this with cartridges. I loved the hell out of that thing, especially the cartridge that had Biology quiz questions. I remember reading the word "organism" as "orgasm" because I was a kid. And I of course read questions out loud.
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Sep 11, 2019 21:32
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yellowD posted:Also Grainger and other industrial and commercial suppliers have several layers of contracted pricing and discounts.
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GWBBQ posted:20% off and free fastest method shipping on anything, which means next day or two day since I'm less than 50 miles from NYC at work. Need a single screw? next day by FedEx. Need a quarter mile of industrial shelving? better spend some time tomorrow getting ready for 450 forklift pallets that won't get there until the next day because they're getting loaded on the truck in Iowa now that the PO went through. I can't believe how spoiled you guys are, 2 days vs 120 I'm getting screwed
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Unperson_47 posted:I had a similar little computer like this with cartridges. I loved the hell out of that thing, especially the cartridge that had Biology quiz questions. Reminds me of a joke I once heard: Reproduction is when multiple orgasms make more of their kind. If you think about it, that's not exactly untrue
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Cojawfee posted:How? Why would the snapon guy be drug tested by a truck at a mine site? Did snapon and the mine go halfsies on testing? All staff, contractors and guests at the work area were subject to random testing. The Snapon dude was there to spruick off some tools. A lot of sites I went to had a sort of lottery with testing at the gate. He initially got lucky, but the double threat test truck probably got a tipoff about a site/crew and came along to dispense justice.
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Jaguars! posted:On the other hand, my father bought the cheapest hole punch in the shop once and it shattered the first time he tried to use it. Some tools you can cheap out on and some you can't I've got this cast iron hole punch in the office that feels built to industrial standards. Apparently it was made in 1963. Love that thing.
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Humphreys posted:All staff, contractors and guests at the work area were subject to random testing. The Snapon dude was there to spruick off some tools. A lot of sites I went to had a sort of lottery with testing at the gate. He initially got lucky, but the double threat test truck probably got a tipoff about a site/crew and came along to dispense justice. I've worked plenty of places where the entire staff is subject to random testing, yet they either rarely do it, or never test the office drones.
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Unperson_47 posted:I had a similar little computer like this with cartridges. I loved the hell out of that thing, especially the cartridge that had Biology quiz questions. The PreComputer supported cartridges, you probably had the same thing I'm talking about. I remember hauling mine over to my friend's house and playing games and making programs with him. Good times!
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