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Rusty posted:If they are the bad paddles that come with the GTI, the plastic ones, than I think just about everyone who cares replaces them. It was the first thing I did, and I am not hard on the car, it's just $20 to make it look and work 100 times better. I guess this is a good reminder to replace the stock ones if I ever try and sell it. sorry about your manlet hands stock ones are just fine
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BraveUlysses posted:sorry about your manlet hands The primary complaint I've read is that the Golf R paddles are too small. I am considering checking out the three owner Golf R and getting it independently inspected prior to purchase. I am also eyeing up a 2015 Golf R in NJ with a lemon title that had 45k miles, the carfax reports indicate that just about every drat part was replaced within the first 20k miles, including the engine, wiring harnesses, shocks, sensors, and then it has had only routine maintenance since then. Two owners, $21k. Seems like low risk, high reward.
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Nov 4, 2019 18:12
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wow you have a vastly different definition of "low risk high reward" than i do
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SchrodingersCat posted:The primary complaint I've read is that the Golf R paddles are too small. lol
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Nov 4, 2019 18:39
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:wow you have a vastly different definition of "low risk high reward" than i do I checked the maintenance record on carfax, within the first 20k miles they replaced the engine wiring harness, camshaft sensor, long-block(!!), Brake rotors, wheel bearings, struts, shocks. All within the first 18 months/20k miles. To be frank, that looks to me like someone who wanted to get their car labeled a lemon so they could get out of it. In the 25k miles since then, only routine maintenance, and an o2 sensor. Listed for 21k and I could likely get it for 19.5.
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Nov 4, 2019 18:43
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BraveUlysses posted:sorry about your manlet hands
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SchrodingersCat posted:The primary complaint I've read is that the Golf R paddles are too small. You’re legitimately out of your mind if you’re even considering buying this car Like this is 11/10 level dumb
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Nov 4, 2019 19:05
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Are you just looking for a daily? Are you absolutely deadset on an R? Planning on modding? Worried about warranty? Buying a VW lemon just seems like a horribly bad idea no matter how you look at it. Just because it looks like it is stock doesn't mean it was modified and beat on at all.
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Nov 4, 2019 19:07
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Etrips posted:Are you just looking for a daily? Are you absolutely deadset on an R? Planning on modding? Worried about warranty? Buying a VW lemon just seems like a horribly bad idea no matter how you look at it. Just because it looks like it is stock doesn't mean it was modified and beat on at all. I am pretty dead set on an R but I am slow playing it a bit. It's going to be a daily, I am likely going to drop an APR stage 1 low-torque on it but I don't track or beat on my cars. All I can find are cars with red flags or poo poo like Carvana where you can't negotiate and get raped on the trade-in.
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Nov 4, 2019 19:13
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For the love of God, don't even consider the lemon law car. It doesn't matter what has been replaced it's still going to be a basket case.
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Nov 4, 2019 19:19
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You never know
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Nov 4, 2019 19:20
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Honestly, you should just get a GTI if these are your only two options for Golfs R There’s way more of them out there for less money and you’re really only missing the AWD which is overrated imvho
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SchrodingersCat posted:I checked the maintenance record on carfax, within the first 20k miles they replaced the engine wiring harness, camshaft sensor, long-block(!!), Brake rotors, wheel bearings, struts, shocks. All within the first 18 months/20k miles. To be frank, that looks to me like someone who wanted to get their car labeled a lemon so they could get out of it. In the 25k miles since then, only routine maintenance, and an o2 sensor. haha god speed you credulous lunatic
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SchrodingersCat posted:I am pretty dead set on an R but I am slow playing it a bit. It's going to be a daily, I am likely going to drop an APR stage 1 low-torque on it but I don't track or beat on my cars. All I can find are cars with red flags or poo poo like Carvana where you can't negotiate and get RIPPED OFF on the trade-in. also: gross
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Nov 4, 2019 22:23
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SchrodingersCat posted:I checked the maintenance record on carfax, within the first 20k miles they replaced the engine wiring harness, camshaft sensor, long-block(!!), Brake rotors, wheel bearings, struts, shocks. All within the first 18 months/20k miles. To be frank, that looks to me like someone who wanted to get their car labeled a lemon so they could get out of it. In the 25k miles since then, only routine maintenance, and an o2 sensor. Oh my god run as fast as you loving can in the opposite direction lol
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Nov 5, 2019 03:05
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Running downhill and getting crushed by the runaway lemon R
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Running downhill and getting crushed by the runaway lemon R There is also one on one of those stupid online dealers for 24k, the carfax lists unspecified "front and roof" damage, which sure as hell sounds like a rollover to me. Seriously, there is nothing available for 2015/2016 models that don't have very bad issues going on unless I want to travel to the other side of the country. I loving hate living in flyover country. I was also looking at the Infiniti Red Sport 400 (q50/q60) and there are more of those weird beasts available within 100 miles than there are Golf Rs. I need the AWD here in Michigan.
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SchrodingersCat posted:There is also one on one of those stupid online dealers for 24k, the carfax lists unspecified "front and roof" damage, which sure as hell sounds like a rollover to me. I live in northern Illinois where it also snows a lot. I got a set of winter tires for my GTI and you really don’t need AWD with that. AWD won’t even help you stop the car like tires will and that’s honestly more important than starting from a stop which winter tires are also fantastic at
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Nov 5, 2019 17:17
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i mean if you're a yooper you might want AWD
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SchrodingersCat posted:There is also one on one of those stupid online dealers for 24k, the carfax lists unspecified "front and roof" damage, which sure as hell sounds like a rollover to me. if you think you really need awd to get around in snow and therefore you must buy a 300+ hp car...you're probably going to still have trouble getting around safely
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BraveUlysses posted:if you think you really need awd to get around in snow and therefore you must buy a 300+ hp car...you're probably going to still have trouble getting around safely But I also like going fast.  . You can mitigate high-torque/hp vehicles with good driving habits. My current car is a tuned 2008 535xi and it has no trouble in snow.My car before that was a FWD Grand Prix GXP and that thing sucked in the winter. I am also looking at the possibility of needing to commute like 70+ miles per day in the next year or two and want every advantage I can get. SchrodingersCat fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Nov 5, 2019 |
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Nov 5, 2019 18:01
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I mean I commute 120mi round trip and do fine when it snows with dedicated snow tires in the GTI. Granted, I don't get Michigan type snow.
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Etrips posted:I mean I commute 120mi round trip and do fine when it snows with dedicated snow tires in the GTI. Granted, I don't get Michigan type snow. in semi it snows like 40" a year which is a hilarious joke yet everyone here thinks its the fuckin arctic
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Nov 5, 2019 21:21
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All I know is that everybody in VT drives Subarus, and they are AWD. Purely anecdotal, I realize. But those maple sucking bastards do get a lot of the white stuff.
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goons have this weird "you don't need awd!" thing going on that generally comes from people who just dont need to drive in the snow a whole lot. theres a reason like every single car in rural new england is either a subaru, audi, or AWD SUV. no, your rwd jaguar with snow tires on it is not sufficient for commuting to and from boston through a blizzard dumping three feet of snow in a morning. its the same sort of idiocy that causes recommendations for summer tires to people who live where its in the right operating temperatures for like three months a year.
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Nov 5, 2019 22:08
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I drove through a blizzard in VT last January in my VW Tiguan 4motion on normal/all weather tires with no problems at all. The previous winter I could barely get to work in light snow in a FWD Jetta. I'm sure that snow tires definitely *do* something, but so does AWD.
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Nov 5, 2019 22:30
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I drove my GTI with snow tires into the mountains many, many times over the past 3 years and had zero issues. They even got me out on my last trip last year when the fronts really needed to be replaced.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:goons have this weird "you don't need awd!" thing going on that generally comes from people who just dont need to drive in the snow a whole lot. theres a reason like every single car in rural new england is either a subaru, audi, or AWD SUV. no, your rwd jaguar with snow tires on it is not sufficient for commuting to and from boston through a blizzard dumping three feet of snow in a morning. its the same sort of idiocy that causes recommendations for summer tires to people who live where its in the right operating temperatures for like three months a year. I think this comes from the fact that most people don't need them because they're outside of the specific use cases you describe. I live in Vancouver (BC) and drive up to the mountains or go on winter road trips fairly often and my GTI is fine with just snow tires. I've also had an STI here and while yes it was a lot better in the snow (and a lot more fun) but our highways get enough attention in the winter that it's unnecessary. I also find it kinda fun when you have to rock your way out of getting mildly stuck. Winter is fun and I can't wait for it to snow here.
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I thought the accepted hierarchy was: FWD w/ all-seasons < AWD w/ all-seasons < FWD w/ snows < AWD w/snows? Not sure how RWD fits in but I've never tried to drive one in the snow. I personally went from a GTI with basically bald, cheap all-seasons to a Quattro Audi w/ new snows and that was obviously a world of difference. I still got by in some seriously rough conditions with the GTI, though. I just drove really, really carefully.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:in semi it snows like 40" a year which is a hilarious joke yet everyone here thinks its the fuckin arctic Actually, average snowfall in Detroit is -only- 33 inches. However, we have had some loving gnarly winters and individual snowstorms the last 10 years, all of which I was driving RWD or FWD across 40+ mile commutes. I once drove a Lincoln Mark VIII from Ypsilanti to Sterling Heights in a blizzard, at 2am, with 4 inches of unplowed snow on the roads on bald all seasons. That was an adventure. I probably spent about a quarter of that trip with my car at a 45 degree angle to the road. I can drive FWD or RWD in winter. But experience had taught me that it's not worth the metaphorical extra inch on my dick to do so. Anyway, I am still looking at Golf Rs. I have moved past the lemon since you guys have convinced me it's probably haunted by the ghost of Hitler. (I should also point out that, yes, FWD with snows are perfectly acceptable in winter but I am also planning on putting snows on whatever I get so that's it's a goddamn tank in the snow). SchrodingersCat fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Nov 5, 2019 |
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betterinsodapop posted:All I know is that everybody in VT drives Subarus, and they are AWD. Purely anecdotal, I realize. But those maple sucking bastards do get a lot of the white stuff. that's where i grew up, town of 600 people, lots of mountains, 3 paved roads, lots of trees. we had a subaru and also a bunch of 2WD stuff. the 2WD stuff is fine unless it's actively dumping. everything had winter tires from like Oct 15 - April 30. moving to the midwest is funny. people here seem to love AWD and hate winter tires. AWD helps you get going and lets you be a little less aggressive with some momentum conservation, but most of michigan is flat as gently caress and it snows about 1/3 as much as where i grew up so i question the usefulness. the reason AWD is useful in rural mountainous areas is because a) getting started is harder and b) snow doesn't get cleared much on back roads. if you live in like Oakland County MI (or like Concord, NH rather than North Conway) you don't need AWD for your daily commute. if you're driving on I-91/I-89 through Vermont, you don't need AWD.
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I just put snows on my wife's '11 A8L, looking forward to seeing how unstoppable that thing is with the suspension aired all the way up. I downsized to 18" alloys so the tire size is a meaty 235/55  .
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Winter tires give around 50% more grip on snow vs an all season. So accelerating in a straight line, awd on all seasons has an edge over 2wd on snow tires. But guess what's better at turning and stopping?
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jamal posted:Winter tires give around 50% more grip on snow vs an all season. So accelerating in a straight line, awd on all seasons has an edge over 2wd on snow tires. But guess what's better at turning and stopping? AWD on snow-tires is the best at all those things.
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willroc7 posted:
It's not bad and it's a ton of fun. We'll see how my M3 does going into the mountains this winter. Not being able to run narrow tires is probably going to be one of the bigger issues that doesn't involve ground clearance.
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betterinsodapop posted:I drove through a blizzard in VT last January in my VW Tiguan 4motion on normal/all weather tires with no problems at all. I went from driving in a blizzard in a GTI with snow tires to driving in light snow in a BMW with AWD and all seasons. The BMW maybe performed better off the line and much worse at stopping and turning. I am looking forward to AWD and snow tires this year, though.
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i will say it may be slightly hypocritical since i bought a Golf Alltrack with snow tires, but that was because you need to get AWD to get the wagon with heated seats and a manual transmission
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i will say it may be slightly hypocritical since i bought a Golf Alltrack with snow tires, but that was because you need to get AWD to get the wagon with heated seats and a manual transmission I used to ski twice a week in Oregon, and the best car I ever had for it was a fwd Celica. I had a Toyota 4wd and an older Subaru, but none handled in the snow like the Celica. Everyone around here also drives Subarus and we get snow in the city maybe once every two to three years
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Does anyone itt have a r8 rws? Or even driven one?
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:that's where i grew up, town of 600 people, lots of mountains, 3 paved roads, lots of trees. we had a subaru and also a bunch of 2WD stuff. the 2WD stuff is fine unless it's actively dumping. everything had winter tires from like Oct 15 - April 30.  I grew up in Massachusetts, def got plenty of snow. Lived 10 years in NYC, where the snow gets cleared and nobody really drives. Now, living in rural Long Island, we get a ton of snow, and not much snow clearing. Going from the Jetta to an AWD Tiguan has been a game changer. I should probably go ahead and get snow tires to have the best possible traction/safety. Question: does AWD help with rain/wet or is that more the realm of traction control and ABS? Also, I love my drat Tiguan. I don't care if it's a grocery hauler. That 2.0T is pretty peppy and fun.
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