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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


terminal case of boomerbrains

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boxen
Feb 20, 2011

Powershift posted:

terminal case of boomerbrains

"Maybe I'm wrong about how much this rusty pile is worth. No, it is everyone else that is wrong!"

I mean, selling something on Craigslist is a nightmare, but...don't use Craigslist then? Ebay Motors, online forums, etc.

Although, the sort of guy that'd scrap a $4000 investment out of spite is also probably the sort of guy who would try one thing then get pissy when it doesn't work the way he wants it to.

I'd sort of understand maybe if it was a car he owned for awhile and wanted to get value out of the sentiment he had for it - stupid but understandable - but a flipper buying something to crush it is just :discourse:

I keep seeing articles about how the classic car market is going to crash, don't know how true that is but I wouldn't be surprised to see more poo poo like this.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




boxen posted:


I keep seeing articles about how the classic car market is going to crash, don't know how true that is but I wouldn't be surprised to see more poo poo like this.

I think it will eventually when there's fewer people to buy said cars or gives a poo poo about classic cars. When millennials have no interest or money, it's a matter of time before the bottom will fall out.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Joe Mama posted:

I've seen Maaco paint jobs like this a dozen times. Even if the paint turned out decent there is ALWAYS overspray somewhere where you're just like, "How, why? Was the guy retarded?"

No, just painted too many cars without safety gear. So, actually, yes, sort of.

Applebees Appetizer posted:

1970 Dodge Charger destroyed by man sick of lowballers — he showed them!

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/10/31/man-angry-at-lowballers-destroys-dodge-charger/?yptr=yahoo

I KNOW WHAT I HAVE

Spite car? Spite crush?

Suburban Dad posted:

I think it will eventually when there's fewer people to buy said cars or gives a poo poo about classic cars. When millennials have no interest or money, it's a matter of time before the bottom will fall out.

This. Basically after all the Boomers and some of my (I'm 50) generation die off.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I think the population is rising and there's people in other countries who care about classic american cars so I think some of them will retain their value even as the number of people as a percentage of the population that cares about cars shrinks, because the absolute number will still go up. Also while the bulk of millenials won't be rich people, there's no sign that the world or the country is going to run out of rich people. There might be fewer rich people but they'll be even richer than before so they'll need more things to collect with their bigger piles of cash.

It's not even just the nostalgia factor. There's still people collecting model A fords and old horse drawn buggies even though almost everyone who bought one new is dead by now.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Leperflesh posted:

I think the population is rising and there's people in other countries who care about classic american cars so I think some of them will retain their value even as the number of people as a percentage of the population that cares about cars shrinks, because the absolute number will still go up. Also while the bulk of millenials won't be rich people, there's no sign that the world or the country is going to run out of rich people. There might be fewer rich people but they'll be even richer than before so they'll need more things to collect with their bigger piles of cash.

It's not even just the nostalgia factor. There's still people collecting model A fords and old horse drawn buggies even though almost everyone who bought one new is dead by now.

Yeah, one chinese movie about old american muscle cars and they could completely clean the market out.

China is currently the largest market in the world for red wine, consuming, on average, 1 bottle per year per person.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Leperflesh posted:

I think the population is rising and there's people in other countries who care about classic american cars so I think some of them will retain their value even as the number of people as a percentage of the population that cares about cars shrinks, because the absolute number will still go up. Also while the bulk of millenials won't be rich people, there's no sign that the world or the country is going to run out of rich people. There might be fewer rich people but they'll be even richer than before so they'll need more things to collect with their bigger piles of cash.

It's not even just the nostalgia factor. There's still people collecting model A fords and old horse drawn buggies even though almost everyone who bought one new is dead by now.

Yeah but what is the market going to look like when it "corrects" when nostalgia is dead? Nobody is claiming that classic cars will die, just that the market as it exists now will.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

The market will certainly change, as all markets inevitably do: this is why there is always risk in investing. Well, one of the reasons. I'm just asserting that "millenial Americans don't care about old cars" is not a compelling argument to lead to "and therefore they'll lose their value."

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

KakerMix posted:

Yeah but what is the market going to look like when it "corrects" when nostalgia is dead? Nobody is claiming that classic cars will die, just that the market as it exists now will.

Nostalgia never dies, the target just changes. 30 years from now some millennial will pay $10M for a mint 1st generation iPhone.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Not all collecting is based on nostalgia, and not all nostalgia is based on one's contemporary cultural touchstones from childhood. Those are important factors but not the only one. If they were, then once any particular kind of collectible was 100 years old, it'd stop being valuable, as a rule. And yet, people have collections of medieval armor, stone age arrowheads, and 18th century snuff boxes.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Deteriorata posted:

Nostalgia never dies, the target just changes. 30 years from now some millennial will pay $10M for a mint 1st generation iPhone.

A sealed original iPod sold for a couple grand last year so you're probably right.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
My point was that the muscle car market is already cooling, mostly because the nostalgia has moved on. Now the growing market is 80s and 90s Japanese stuff, because the nostalgia is there.

Technically "classic" cars can already be into the 90s but it seems that when people say "classic" they mean the 60s-70s stuff.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
Yeah I'd love to pick up a nice Integra again some day because that was my first car. Fat chance of that happening though, morons like my younger self ruined them all.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018

dissss posted:

Yeah I'd love to pick up a nice Integra again some day because that was my first car. Fat chance of that happening though, morons like my younger self ruined them all.

Mine (DA B18 coupe) lasted until late last year (it was rear ended). RIP. I miss it.

DiggityDoink
Dec 9, 2007

dissss posted:

Yeah I'd love to pick up a nice Integra again some day because that was my first car. Fat chance of that happening though, morons like my younger self ruined them all.

I want an unmolested CRX but that's like finding a loving unicorn.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Man, that would mean to find two unicorns in the same place and at the same time loving.

That would be rare.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



My friend in youth group had one back in the late '00s, only automatic CRX I know of. Not sure if it was a swap or what.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
There were automatic CRX’s available. Few survived.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
I see clean looking (from the outside) CRXs somewhat regularly. Like maybe a half dozen times a year.

Speaking of clean as gently caress, A week or so ago, I saw the cleanest loving Aerostar I've ever seen. It wasn't cosmetically perfect, but it was cleaner than any one that I ever remember seeing, even when they were still in production. It was so old, it didn't have the third brake light.

Fake edit:
Ok, third brake light was added in 1994, so still old, but not old AF.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Really? I thought 3rd brakelights were something like 86-87?

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
Aerostar wikipedia page:

. As it was becoming a federal requirement, a center brake light was added for 1994

E: I'm in Canada though, maybe it was required before that here? I'd swear my parent's 1990 Topaz had a third light.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


slidebite posted:

Really? I thought 3rd brakelights were something like 86-87?

My ‘87 Corolla has one, and FC RX-7s (‘86-91 in the US) do as well. But I don’t know if that was preemptive or what.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

slidebite posted:

Really? I thought 3rd brakelights were something like 86-87?

quote:

The third brake light law went into effect in 1986 for passenger cars, and light trucks in 1994.

i own every Bionicle
Oct 23, 2005

cstm ttle? kthxbye


https://nh.craigslist.org/ctd/d/south-walpole-2005-porsche-kit-car/7006801660.html

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



The worst thing about these kits is that the stock Fiero actually looked pretty cool. There's one occasionally parked on the street nearby and I'd totally drive it.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
There are three parked in front of a Napa on the edge of town, for sale as a package deal. The owner refuses to split up the lot.

boxen
Feb 20, 2011
Hey, if anyone has about $1500 I have a sorta-reliable Fiero. It's three different colors! Four if you count the black trim.

My Rhythmic Crotch
Jan 13, 2011

What is it about the Fiero that seems to make them spin or dart off in some random direction rather than track where it was pointed?

I've never driven one just seen the old MotorWeek videos of them spinning out a million times.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Rhyno posted:

There are three parked in front of a Napa on the edge of town, for sale as a package deal. The owner refuses to split up the lot.

Heh, always cracks me up seeing them on the sidewalk.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:


Ironically, a nice fiero is almost certainly now worth more than a mediocre boxster.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

KakerMix posted:

My point was that the muscle car market is already cooling, mostly because the nostalgia has moved on. Now the growing market is 80s and 90s Japanese stuff, because the nostalgia is there.

Technically "classic" cars can already be into the 90s but it seems that when people say "classic" they mean the 60s-70s stuff.

I've seen a 93 Supra and a jelly bean Escort with classic tags in recent months.

Edit: ZX2!

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Godholio posted:

I've seen a 93 Supra and a jelly bean Escort with classic tags in recent months.

Edit: ZX2!

My wife's car when we met was a dark forest green ZX2 and BOY did she beat the everliving poo poo out of that poor car. Weirdly enough my neighbor, in his 60s with an exposed metal Beetle and a split window Stingray, just bought one. We went over there and it was just in his backyard, my wife started freaking out getting all excited.

You bet your rear end people are going to be doing the same thing over H2s in another decade.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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What's the best way to automate craigslist searches these days?

Coredump
Dec 1, 2002

Searchtempest.com will let you search all of the Craiglist's in the US. However to automate a craigslist search the closest I've seen for that is smart phone apps that claim they can do it. However they come with gotchas you have to be aware of and they don't often advertise. I bought CplusforCraigslist for my phone and it says "Search alert is an experimental feature. You can have at most 2 alerts (each checked location is counted as one alert)." So you can't search a wide area have it running in the background and once I ran into this I couldn't find a single review that mentioned this limitation.

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen
My A-body white whale:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/420568915518483/


Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Scammers must hate when they are fended off by stern warnings of NO SCAMMERS

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

The one trick scammers don't want you to know!

Once again relatively rare /= valuable.

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen

slidebite posted:

Once again relatively rare /= valuable.

Did you see the Omni GLHS I posted on FB? 31.9K :allears:

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
i think that ciera is worth four grand, fight me

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Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

i think that ciera is worth four grand, fight me

Nah, you can have it

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