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The thing that bugs me about people calling videogame writing bad is that implies that television and movie writing are much much better.
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Dec 11, 2019 17:33
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Rutibex posted:"health points" as a concept don't make any sense. get kicked in the head 9 times? your are fine and able to perform 100%. get kicked in the head 10 times? dead instantly! I liked the original Deus Ex having a kind of mech game health setup where your arms or legs could get taken out with penalties depending on if it was one or both limbs. I think it was just a binary 0 health or not thing per limb though.
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Dec 11, 2019 17:34
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JollyBoyJohn posted:The thing that bugs me about people calling videogame writing bad is that implies that television and movie writing are much much better. I read the books  And play games.
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Dec 11, 2019 17:35
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JollyBoyJohn posted:The thing that bugs me about people calling videogame writing bad is that implies that television and movie writing are much much better. 95% of everything is crap. it doesn't matter the genre or medium
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Dec 11, 2019 17:36
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Rutibex posted:95% of everything is crap. it doesn't matter the genre or medium I'd prefer to say 95% of stuff is mediocre and there are a lot of people are happy with mediocre
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Dec 11, 2019 17:40
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Remember when all nerds were "all FPSs suck!" and turns out they never played the good ones lmao oh wait that's still happening my bad.
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Dec 11, 2019 17:41
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Jerry Cotton posted:Remember when all nerds were "all FPSs suck!" and turns out they never played the good ones lmao oh wait that's still happening my bad. People didn't play bulletstorm?
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Dec 11, 2019 17:41
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The ending of Bioshock: Infite was pretty cool, in that very moment. Sad they hosed it up with the DLCs, though.
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Dec 11, 2019 17:42
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One day i will play the BioShock dlcs just to see how bad they are. One day but not today
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Dec 11, 2019 17:43
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JollyBoyJohn posted:The thing that bugs me about people calling videogame writing bad is that implies that television and movie writing are much much better. Breaking bad was brilliant writing! *Watches episode where two planes helplessly slam into each other because an air traffic controller is sad. This coincidentally showers destroyed teddy bears or whatever on the bad man drug dealer who made the traffic controller sad*
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Dec 11, 2019 17:44
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Serephina posted:There's a lot to criticize Bio:Inf about, but the VIP escort mechanics is one of the few things it did unambiguously well and other games would do well to imitate. I 100% agree with this. Some of the most pathetic implementation of escorting I've ever seen was in The Last of Us and Uncharted 4. The devs clearly couldn't get your AI partner to behave during stealth sections so with a few exceptions they just turn invisible to enemies. I was shocked at how amateurish it was in TLoU and laughed my rear end off when the exact same thing happened in U4. Here's a screenshot of me trying to ambush a dude who's checking out a corpse but loving Sam just strolls right past him. 
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Dec 11, 2019 18:48
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Bioshock infinite did a lot of things well but the things it did poorly are critical things like "gameplay" that overshadow everything else
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Dec 11, 2019 19:14
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Let's be honest, Colombia was a dumb idea. Even hearing the first initial description of Rapture in Bioshock made it sound like a wonderful setting. A city under the sea seemed somewhat plausible but mysterious. City in the sky? Boring and stupid.
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Dec 11, 2019 19:22
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Let's be honest, Colombia was a dumb idea. Even hearing the first initial description of Rapture in Bioshock made it sound like a wonderful setting. A city under the sea seemed somewhat plausible but mysterious. City in the sky? Boring and stupid. Lol i love your user name there's happy hardcore in my head now
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Dec 11, 2019 19:31
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Give me another city under water But in SPACE
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Dec 11, 2019 19:32
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Fartbox posted:Give me another city under water Get this, a city that under space. You have to take a space submarine to get there. Into subspace.
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Dec 11, 2019 19:35
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Fartbox posted:Give me another city under water Welcome to Fedoralia, the AOC utopia built under the surface of a gas giant. Here, you may choose between a complimentary hat or a vape pen. "He always chooses the vape pen!"
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Dec 11, 2019 19:39
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Jerry Cotton posted:In Bioshit Unfunite the player character is the death-prone idiot being escorted. A game from an escortee person's point of view might be interesting. Doom, but this time doomguy has gout, gets stuck in doorways, considers the demons his friends and shrieks a real annoying line every time he takes damage.
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Dec 11, 2019 19:42
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Lodin posted:I 100% agree with this. They do this literally so your AI companions don’t get you killed constantly. Like, it’s blaringly obvious why they did it, and the alternative of letting them get spotted would be such a huge world of pain in the rear end bullshit that no one in their right mind would ever play these games.
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Dec 11, 2019 19:53
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Dewgy posted:They do this literally so your AI companions don’t get you killed constantly. Like, it’s blaringly obvious why they did it, and the alternative of letting them get spotted would be such a huge world of pain in the rear end bullshit that no one in their right mind would ever play these games. You're really good at following conversations!
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Dec 11, 2019 19:58
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Bioshock infinite came out when most games and especially FPS had stories that were so loving bad that I often wanted to outright skip them. I’ll always give it a few points for making me care about what was going on even if it wasn’t perfect. Of course the Last of Us came along just a few months later and met the same criteria while being much better imo.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:04
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Chomp8645 posted:Get this, a city that under space. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIbVYXHnaBU&t=308s
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Dec 11, 2019 20:05
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I played fallout 3 and liked it, missed new Vegas, should I buy 4 at the current pittance price?
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Dec 11, 2019 20:06
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SilvergunSuperman posted:I played fallout 3 and liked it, missed new Vegas, should I buy 4 at the current pittance price? no, buy New Vegas instead
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Dec 11, 2019 20:07
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Chomp8645 posted:You're really good at following conversations! I mean, calling it “pathetic” when the obvious alternative is “unplayable bullshit” is a bit of a change of tone, dontcha think?
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Dec 11, 2019 20:09
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veni veni veni posted:Of course the Last of Us came along just a few months later and met the same criteria while being much better imo. Its interesting to think of them as a direct comparison because looking back I remember Infinite much more fondly than The Last of Us. I enjoyed and finished both which is a rarity in itself but nothing from TLoU really sticks in mind, maybe because I played it on the normal difficulty which I've heard isn't the ideal but it was just a competent game latched on a to a heart tugging storyline. Infinite might be a "worse" game but it had more memorable moments, Columbia even if it was stupid and dumb was memorable, Comstock and Booker and the plot-tie ins are ridiculous but they stood out. I remember setups like the Lutece twins, the battle at Wounded Knee and the old-time versions of Beach Boys, Creedence and Cindy Lauper songs which really helped nail the setting. When people say The Last of Us I just think of pushing crates into water.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:12
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Just saw that Vampire The Masquerade - Coteries of New York has been released on Steam. As Bloodlines is probably my favourite RPG ever I decided to give it a shot. So far it's just a typical chose your own adventure/visual novel, but it seems cool. You get to pick between a Ventrue, Brujah and Toreador fledgling who much like in Bloodlines gets screwed over by the local Prince. This time in New York. This is a cheap game but the visuals are nice and the writings decent so far. The ambient soundtrack is also very much Bloodlines. I'd say this is deffo worth a look if you don't mind the format. Found a trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBKpDSce2I4
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Dec 11, 2019 20:27
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Dewgy posted:I mean, calling it “pathetic” when the obvious alternative is “unplayable bullshit” is a bit of a change of tone, dontcha think? That's not the obvious alternative, which you might have an idea of if you could follow a conversation! You quoted a post that was quoting another post. Did you even read that first one?
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Dec 11, 2019 20:28
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Chomp8645 posted:That's not the obvious alternative, which you might have an idea of if you could follow a conversation! Yes? I don’t care about whatever point you think you’re making though.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:29
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Lodin posted:Just saw that Vampire The Masquerade - Coteries of New York has been released on Steam. As Bloodlines is probably my favourite RPG ever I decided to give it a shot. So far it's just a typical chose your own adventure/visual novel, but it seems cool. but does it have numerous broken gameplay options and crash all the time to really give it that bloodlines feel
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Dec 11, 2019 20:34
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site posted:but does it have numerous broken gameplay options and crash all the time to really give it that bloodlines feel Man I only played Bloodlines in 2016 and played through with all the patches, what a cool game. Every character emoted so well, I loved speaking to them. The mood is extremely post-matrix neo techno blood goth w/ extra manson, it's great.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:45
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big nipples big life posted:
If I'm being honest, that's probably the main thing. Also, I'm proud that my dumb statement about gamepads and keyboards was controversial enough to start a pages-long derail, I've done my duty to the thread *salutes enthusiastically* A lot of it also comes down to me liking single players a lot more than multiplayer. Single player shooters are easy enough to beat with a gamepad, even when you up the difficulty. So there's no need to use the less comfortable method. I refuse to play games at a desk, that's way too much like work Malcolm Turnbeug posted:Trying to use a scope in pvp or whatever with a game pad makes me feel like a huge clumsy idiot but if a game has enough emphasis on mobility and positioning over aiming they’re usually more fun with a game pad even if I’d probably be more competitive with a mouse and keyboard. For example Titanfall 2 feels way more fun on a game pad even if you can’t aim for poo poo so I still hook it up for single player This is well said. Some games are a bit harsh in how they do targeting which make gamepads difficult, but they just feel so much better in terms of movement and the unified whole I also have a wheel for racing games, that's one thing the gamepad is poo poo at (although still better than a m/k I would assume) veni veni veni posted:I've been using a mouse regularly for the last few months for the first time in my life, and I'm somewhat converted, but I'll never use a keyboard to play games (unless it's an RTS or something). Just an absolutely awful feeling way to play a video game unless you have stockholm syndrome from using one for years. Mouse and one handed controller is pretty fun for FPS though. I'd still rather play almost any other kind of game with a controller. Mouse and one handed controller you say? That sounds... quite interesting. I hate using keyboards and don't love the mouse since I play on my couch, but a mouse plus half controller sounds interesting. I'm picturing the half controller like one of those switch controllers that can separate, just a stick for movement and a trigger/shoulder button. Is that what you're talking about? e: nevermind it's this right? I want this. I need this. And not in my rear end. Well, maybe in my rear end. But mostly for playing online shooters where everyones a sperglord. e: that's a vr controller? I'd like one that just is wireless USB and works the same as my xbox controller on the pc
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Dec 11, 2019 21:06
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Dewgy posted:Yes? I don’t care about whatever point you think you’re making though. I'm not making a point, you just completely missed theirs because you can't read. If you don't care then we're all done!
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Dec 11, 2019 21:22
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Dewgy posted:They do this literally so your AI companions don’t get you killed constantly. Like, it’s blaringly obvious why they did it, and the alternative of letting them get spotted would be such a huge world of pain in the rear end bullshit that no one in their right mind would ever play these games.  There's a third option
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Dec 11, 2019 21:24
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Play posted:e: that's a vr controller? I'd like one that just is wireless USB and works the same as my xbox controller on the pc its the old ps3 move nav controller that they repurposed for the psvr, at least the one i have does have a usb port at the bottom and its just bluetooth for wireless
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Dec 11, 2019 21:26
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Olaf The Stout posted:Man I only played Bloodlines in 2016 and played through with all the patches, what a cool game. Every character emoted so well, I loved speaking to them. The mood is extremely post-matrix neo techno blood goth w/ extra manson, it's great. Fat Larry is the greatest video game character of all time.
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Dec 11, 2019 21:31
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site posted:but does it have numerous broken gameplay options and crash all the time to really give it that bloodlines feel No, but I did mind control some Anarch gently caress who interrupted my feeding and now I'm gonna watch the Sheriff and Prince question him. This really is well written and VtM as gently caress. Also, they made a joke about Turnp and that always gets a plus from me.
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Dec 11, 2019 21:33
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site posted:its the old ps3 move nav controller that they repurposed for the psvr, at least the one i have does have a usb port at the bottom and its just bluetooth for wireless so if I just got one, hooked it up to the computer, it would start working in games? It's interesting that there aren't controllers specifically made for PC that are half controllers. It's such a good idea because I could have the mouse on a hard mousepad I have to the right then just hold the half controller in my left hand and I think it would be pretty good
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Dec 11, 2019 21:34
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Play posted:so if I just got one, hooked it up to the computer, it would start working in games? It's interesting that there aren't controllers specifically made for PC that are half controllers. It's such a good idea because I could have the mouse on a hard mousepad I have to the right then just hold the half controller in my left hand and I think it would be pretty good I got a Steam controller because I thought it would fill this niche but I have no loving clue what I'm doing with it
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Dec 11, 2019 21:35
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i get the feeling everyone who talks bad about bioshock infinite never found the secret elizabeth-dating minigame where she smooches you and lets you touch one of her boobies which one is determined by which broach you gave her!
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