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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

lmao

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got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

https://mobile.twitter.com/yversary/status/1206711639552253953

inshallah

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

This one seriously pisses me off because it's straight up illiterate and has zero concept of what's going on - finance took over pharma, slashed R&D, and jacked up the prices of drugs already in existence. so you can't even come to this conclusion without living in a loving fantasy land.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

oh word the guy bashing a bunch of random made-up numbers together because arithmetic makes you sound like a science man didn't do his research

A Wizard of Goatse has issued a correction as of 20:55 on Dec 17, 2019

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!
https://twitter.com/leonardpierce/status/1206772985740300288

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

We've got add the deaths caused by Bernie campaigning for Medicare 4 All to the Black Book of Communism

OpenSourceBurger
Sep 25, 2019

as someone who loves Marvel movies, the glut of think pieces and people throwing poo poo fits because some people dislike them is brutally moronic

LGD
Sep 25, 2004


see this is a great hot take, because you just know it was deliberately produced as a hot take, but it skillfully juxtaposes multiple (largely unimportant) things people get passionate about in ways that maximize odiousness, while having just enough of an underlying point (much auteur theory is bullshit) that it makes you want to argue with it

LGD has issued a correction as of 21:48 on Dec 17, 2019

A Big Fuckin Hornet
Nov 1, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Scorsese broke so many nerd brains lmao

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


can not find a :thunk: large enough for this

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1207016278138990592?s=20
not the chapo host but the original question

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Taintrunner posted:



can not find a :thunk: large enough for this

Maybe if we write more stories about how Money Doesn't Buy Happiness, we can convert billionaires to socialism.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014


if you haven't read the whole letter yet, the headline is deeply underselling it

https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/12/sex-workers-while-in-relationship-advice.amp

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Fun Shoe

YaketySass posted:

Maybe if we write more stories about how Money Doesn't Buy Happiness, we can convert billionaires to socialism.

it may not buy happiness but it sure helps put a floor under the negative emotions one might feel while alive

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/rosefasa/status/1207058241177432064

apparently Palestinians aren’t Semitic anymore :shrug:

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Fun Shoe

Taintrunner posted:

https://twitter.com/rosefasa/status/1207058241177432064

apparently Palestinians aren’t Semitic anymore :shrug:

Rose is good. She moved to Iowa to work for Bernie's campaign.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Taintrunner posted:

https://twitter.com/rosefasa/status/1207058241177432064

apparently Palestinians aren’t Semitic anymore :shrug:

She's right and she's even adressing your point in the tweet.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

YaketySass posted:

She's right and she's even adressing your point in the tweet.

I’m Jewish, she’s wrong.

the Palestinian people are Semites and there’s an incredible amount of outspoken and casual bigotry against them. I posted a while back there was some lunatic in my doctors office yelling into his phone about how the IDF should go in and murder all the “terrorists” and put everyone else into re-education camps.

They’re expected to die quietly and any sort of advocating for them is being criminalized both in America and abroad. Erasing that bigotry from the term is abhorrent, and reinforces the ideal that Jews are more important than Palestinians.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Fun Shoe

Taintrunner posted:

I’m Jewish, she’s wrong.

the Palestinian people are Semites and there’s an incredible amount of outspoken and casual bigotry against them. I posted a while back there was some lunatic in my doctors office yelling into his phone about how the IDF should go in and murder all the “terrorists” and put everyone else into re-education camps.

They’re expected to die quietly and any sort of advocating for them is being criminalized both in America and abroad. Erasing that bigotry from the term is abhorrent, and reinforces the ideal that Jews are more important than Palestinians.

go check what she has to say about Palestinians in her feed.

hint: it's not that the IDF should take them all out, or that people should ignore them

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Spergin Morlock posted:

go check what she has to say about Palestinians in her feed.

hint: it's not that the IDF should take them all out, or that people should ignore them

This is about erasing Palestinian people from the term when outspoken bigotry against them is the mainstream acceptable position. Just because she “addressed” the point doesn’t make it correct, nor addresses the inherent contradiction it presents when you say antisemitism only applies to Jews, when the Jewish ethnostate project involves wiping out another group of Semitic people that is wholeheartedly endorsed by governments around the world.

Teal
Feb 25, 2013

by Nyc_Tattoo

Taintrunner posted:



can not find a :thunk: large enough for this

the rich don't have to be on board, it's more of a pillory

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
yeah buying into lovely propaganda is bad no matter how desperately you try and well actually it.

it doesn’t even serve any real purpose as far as I can tell

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Fun Shoe

Taintrunner posted:

This is about erasing Palestinian people from the term when outspoken bigotry against them is the mainstream acceptable position. Just because she “addressed” the point doesn’t make it correct, nor addresses the inherent contradiction it presents when you say antisemitism only applies to Jews, when the Jewish ethnostate project involves wiping out another group of Semitic people that is wholeheartedly endorsed by governments around the world.

she is explicitly anti-Zionist and has said repeatedly that she does not agree with the way Palestinians are treated by Israel.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Spergin Morlock posted:

she is explicitly anti-Zionist and has said repeatedly that she does not agree with the way Palestinians are treated by Israel.

and? that doesn’t contradict anything I’m talking about here.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Spergin Morlock posted:

she is explicitly anti-Zionist and has said repeatedly that she does not agree with the way Palestinians are treated by Israel.

then she shouldn’t buy into anti Palestine propaganda imo

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

"antisemitism" is understood in the English language to refer to prejudice against Jews specifically, regardless of whether that is a precise translation of the etymology. It refers to a meaningfully distinguishable ideological tendency from bigotries against other people assigned to the same 1800s-assed racial clade, and the usage of a specific term some dead phrenologists came up with to lump a buncha groups with no common identity together is a historical accident not iron law all must follow or be unwoke.

A Wizard of Goatse has issued a correction as of 23:41 on Dec 17, 2019

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
well if the Nazis did who are we to disagree

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
you can be a good person and still have a hot take

https://twitter.com/jjz1600/status/1207025134705500161

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Fun Shoe
i'm not going to keep arguing this point since i generally agree with you. i just wanted to point out that ignoring Palestinians is almost certainly not what she was going for there. :cheers:

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


Taintrunner posted:

you can be a good person and still have a hot take

uninterrupted
Jun 20, 2011

Spergin Morlock posted:

i'm not going to keep arguing this point since i generally agree with you. i just wanted to point out that ignoring Palestinians is almost certainly not what she was going for there. :cheers:

sorry your friend is antisemetic, op

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
It’s only Caucasian if it’s from the Caucasus region of Eurasia.

Otherwise it’s just sparkling whiteness.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Taintrunner posted:



can not find a :thunk: large enough for this

Hmm it seems like there might be some difference here:

Men: ~50% of US population.

Whites: ~62-78% of the US population (depending on if Hispanic whites count)

The Rich: 10% of the population, depending on how you define it? Maybe just 1%?

nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice

Taintrunner posted:

you can be a good person and still have a hot take

https://twitter.com/jjz1600/status/1207025134705500161

That... that's not the origin of the Seminoles?!! :psyduck:

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

Taintrunner posted:

I’m Jewish, she’s wrong.

the Palestinian people are Semites and there’s an incredible amount of outspoken and casual bigotry against them. I posted a while back there was some lunatic in my doctors office yelling into his phone about how the IDF should go in and murder all the “terrorists” and put everyone else into re-education camps.

They’re expected to die quietly and any sort of advocating for them is being criminalized both in America and abroad. Erasing that bigotry from the term is abhorrent, and reinforces the ideal that Jews are more important than Palestinians.

This is about as effective as wearing a swastika t-shirt and insisting no one get mad with you because "it's just a tibetan good luck charm brah"

uninterrupted
Jun 20, 2011

Coohoolin posted:

This is about as effective as wearing a swastika t-shirt and insisting no one get mad with you because "it's just a tibetan good luck charm brah"

no it's like going tibet and telling someone 'actually there was this dick in germany who used the swastika, you gotta tear this temple down'.

you don't get to redefine the culture and background of an already oppressed people because it's moderately more convenient for you.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
do palestinians identify as semites

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

Coohoolin posted:

This is about as effective as wearing a swastika t-shirt and insisting no one get mad with you because "it's just a tibetan good luck charm brah"

The better analogy is someone insisting they can't be homophobic because they're not afraid of gay people, they just think it's a sin. Yeah, the etymology doesn't actual match up with current usage of the word, welcome to the English language. Now stop loving with it to try and score political points.

coathat
May 21, 2007

nikosoft posted:

That... that's not the origin of the Seminoles?!! :psyduck:

The famous cowboys of Florida

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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Patrick Spens posted:

The better analogy is someone insisting they can't be homophobic because they're not afraid of gay people, they just think it's a sin. Yeah, the etymology doesn't actual match up with current usage of the word, welcome to the English language. Now stop loving with it to try and score political points.

This is loving pathetic and disgraceful. Acknowledging that the Palestinian people, a Semitic people, face unique oppression does nothing to take away from the bigotry faced by Jewish people.

Goddamn liberals ITT want to not feel too bad about a genocidal machine that wants to put every last Palestinian in the grave and get a gold star of approval from the rest of the world for it. Fact of the matter is that seeing the Palestinians as human beings, as people like Bernie Sanders and Jeremy Corbyn have, means that they're somehow anti-Semitic, as the massive propaganda machine worldwide has demanded. BDS is being criminalized here and in the UK. There's a massive multi-million dollar propaganda machine to cover for the brutalization, torture, and other crimes against humanity as part of a larger genocidal action to create a racially pure ethnostate over the graves of countless innocent people.

So yes, the term isn't "only" Jews. Sorry if that hurts your feelings, but it's a simple fact.

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