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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Any hit that penetrates a MBT tends to kill the crew, the soviets figured that upping the chances from 'probably' to 'almost definitely' in return for sitting almost 1 meter lower, having more efficient armor layout, and a bigger gun, all for cheaper was worth it given conscript tank crews were considered fungible and replaceable assets. This isn't true and never really has been. The big tank crew killers have always been shells exploding in the tank and the propellant catching fire and incinerating everything. These days both of the primary methods of attacking armor (kinetic and HEAT) don't tend to blow up inside the tank as much as they punch a hole straight through it to break things - so your ammo explosion concerns are pretty much exclusive to your own ammo getting hit by these things and blowing up. The M1 Abrams and Leopard 2 are only 0.2-0.25 meters taller than the T-72 to the turret roofs - which isn't much of a difference, these are all tank sized tanks. The big dump stats in newer Western tank designs were the length of hull/turret and the weight, not the height. The armor layout was actually a huge problem in the T-64 and T-72 families starting in the 70's due to size and weight limitations. The sides, top, and rear on all of them are very thinly armored because there just wasn't any room to improve upon the original T-64's 60-80mm thick steel plate. Hell, by the 80's there wasn't even enough space to add more protection to the front, either, which is a big deal when NERA and basically every other modern composite scheme needed a ton of space. This is why ERA was suddenly plastered on top of everything (adding a lot of additional weight), Dolly Parton Armor became a thing, and the front hull armor protection stagnated while keeping the huge vulnerable area in front of the driver. The lack of space impacted everything, even stuff like integrated fire control computers, sensors, and optic suites ran into space problems. The bigger gun on the smaller tank also meant less gun depression, bigger shells, and more propellant to cram into the tiny crew space and autoloader bustle sitting under it. This is why basically the entire center-mass area of the tank is effectively an explodey ammunition rack. This wasn't a conscious decision to make the tank burny and explodey in exchange for the size - the tendency for catastrophic explosions and propellant fires (which often led immediately to catastrophic explosions) wasn't expected and created a huge scandal after the first Chechen war. On a side note the autoloader making all this possible also created a physical bottleneck preventing the use of longer kinetic penetrator rounds starting in the late 70's, handing NATO a huge advantage in ammunition. Prices are more complicated and hard to compare due to stuff like subsidies, upgrades, etc. But the top end tanks like the T64B, T-80U, and T-90A weren't/aren't cheap. The Soviets also definitely recognized the advantages of not having a tank go bang - first because they understood that experienced crews are extremely valuable and second because if the tank doesn't go bang or melt itself into slag you can patch it up and send it right back out. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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Why are people driving into it?
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Because adults are just giant children. hth
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Yea I’d do the same.
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Cojawfee posted:Why are people driving into it? Car thirsty.
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Mozi posted:free car wash
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I like the guy trying to parallel park at the bottom and run over the cyclists at the same time.
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Cojawfee posted:Why are people driving into it? If you're thirsty, your car is thirsty.
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I'm more amused by the black car trying to parallel park.
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Pacra posted:I saw there was talk about Russian OSHA....
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Pickled Tink posted:A long time ago I heard about some kind of scam or recycling thing where people would make a single functional car out of two cars that had been in wrecks by cutting off the damaged sections of both and welding them together. This reminds me of that and why it is such a horrible idea. You just described autobotanik https://autobotanik.livejournal.com/ 
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Pickled Tink posted:A long time ago I heard about some kind of scam or recycling thing where people would make a single functional car out of two cars that had been in wrecks by cutting off the damaged sections of both and welding them together. This reminds me of that and why it is such a horrible idea. It's called a 'clip job' and it is (or was) fairly common. Insurance companies loved it because they could salvage a functioning car out of two total losses and recoup some of their money.
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Dec 18, 2019 04:27
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In the UK they're called "Cut & Shut". And yeah, they are absolute death traps.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:In the UK they're called "Cut & Shut". And yeah, they are absolute death traps. Same name in Australia. They are legal here, if they're done right and have a registered automotive engineer sign off on them afterwards. Basically, if they're a new-ish car, they just don't get signed off on, so no one tries to do them legally. I know a dude who used to have a Kingswood that was front half HQ Premier, back half HZ, that was as fine as a 1971 car was ever going to be.
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https://jacobinmag.com/2019/12/sydney-australia-bushfires-air-smoke-dockworkers-walkouts/quote:Following cataclysmic bushfires, Sydney has spent the last fortnight choked by poisonous smoke. While Prime Minister Scott Morrison pretends all is normal, construction and dock workers have refused to put business as usual above their health, and are walking off the job. UwU wats dis?
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Oh and where is Scott Morrison right now? Taking charge of the situation and making sure firefighters and hospitals get the resources they need? Nahh he hosed off to Hawaii on holiday. edit: https://twitter.com/BOM_au/status/1207128438554783746 Memento fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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Memento posted:Oh and where is Scott Morrison right now? Taking charge of the situation and making sure firefighters and hospitals get the resources they need? Totally normal and fine
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zedprime posted:"unexpected low lying flammable vapor cloud." I always wondered what the technical name was for a silent but deadly fart.
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GotLag posted:Totally normal and fire.
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Pickled Tink posted:A long time ago I heard about some kind of scam or recycling thing where people would make a single functional car out of two cars that had been in wrecks by cutting off the damaged sections of both and welding them together. This reminds me of that and why it is such a horrible idea. In Norway it was pretty common to take a perfectly good performance model of a car, slice it in half, and then join the halves up with two halves of a lesser model of the same car and then just buy the missing performance parts. You now had two fast cars for the price of little more than one. Common victims were the Lotus Opel Omega/Vauxhall Carlton and the Ford Sierra Cosworth.
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evobatman posted:In Norway it was pretty common to take a perfectly good performance model of a car, slice it in half, and then join the halves up with two halves of a lesser model of the same car and then just buy the missing performance parts. You now had two fast cars for the price of little more than one. Common victims were the Lotus Opel Omega/Vauxhall Carlton and the Ford Sierra Cosworth. 
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Cable Guy posted:Why... why cut it in half in the first place..? Why not just add the performance parts to the intact lesser model..? Things... get a little crazy over the long winter nights
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evobatman posted:In Norway it was pretty common to take a perfectly good performance model of a car, slice it in half, and then join the halves up with two halves of a lesser model of the same car and then just buy the missing performance parts. You now had two fast cars for the price of little more than one. Common victims were the Lotus Opel Omega/Vauxhall Carlton and the Ford Sierra Cosworth. Is it you guys who buy up all the old muscle cars from the US? Hillary 2020 posted:Things... get a little crazy over the long winter nights My Summer Car is a Scandinavian simulator.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:In the UK they're called "Cut & Shut". And yeah, they are absolute death traps. WOW. Come and take a look at Mr. Richie Rich here, or should I say Mr. "I-only-drive-cars-that-haven't-been-totalled-more-than-once". We get it, you're so posh that even all of your tires come from the same set. Well I'm sorry if your pretentious little rear end gets a rash from being too close to real fuckling trucks but THIS IS OSHA!          
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Guilty of similar on my first car. I didn't know about a little rubber under the brake pedal perishing was cause for brake lights to be on constantly. So I pulled the fuse and then manually turned on my lights on the stalk everytime I thought it might be a cop behind me to make them think I had brake lights. I was a dumb teen.
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Im sorry but was this sugar mill video posted already? It's basically OSHA-land. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3v_j9x4bQQ
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French Canadian posted:Im sorry but was this sugar mill video posted already? wow, can't wait to see the Bollywood version of Modern Times! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n9ESFJTnHs&t=43s
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Humphreys posted:Guilty of similar on my first car. I didn't know about a little rubber under the brake pedal perishing was cause for brake lights to be on constantly. So I pulled the fuse and then manually turned on my lights on the stalk everytime I thought it might be a cop behind me to make them think I had brake lights. I was a dumb teen. Guilloteen.
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Cable Guy posted:Why... why cut it in half in the first place..? Why not just add the performance parts to the intact lesser model..? Loopholes around rules and regulations and VIN shenaningans. It wasn't legal to soup up the lesser model, but "legal" to rebuild two of the performance model. Or something like that. Thankfully it's been like 30 years since this was a thing.
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Humphreys posted:Guilty of similar on my first car. I didn't know about a little rubber under the brake pedal perishing was cause for brake lights to be on constantly. So I pulled the fuse and then manually turned on my lights on the stalk everytime I thought it might be a cop behind me to make them think I had brake lights. I was a dumb teen. Toyota uses (or used to use) a little plastic clip to keep the brake light switch pressed and the light off. This bit of plastic broke on the Corolla I had and I replaced it with a 10mm bolt and nut in the brake pedal arm and adjusted the brake switch position so it turned on the light appropriately
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Vanagoon posted:Toyota uses (or used to use) a little plastic clip to keep the brake light switch pressed and the light off. This bit of plastic broke on the Corolla I had and I replaced it with a 10mm bolt and nut in the brake pedal arm and adjusted the brake switch position so it turned on the light appropriately
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Nocheez posted:Guilloteen. Sounds like a canteen which cuts your head off them you take a drink.
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I created a slow leak somewhere in my 1989 Chevy Celebrity as a teen, by installing my own stereo equipment. It was too much work to track down the issue (which would drain my battery over the course of 6ish hours) so the solution was to install a kill switch. Ended up installing a 12V 300a switch in the engine compartment. Big ol' red *ka-chunk!* style switch just hanging off the negative terminal. Best theft deterrent in the world.
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I had the same problem with my first car, an Acura Legend. The only reason I realized what was going on was when I was finding pieces of white, waxy material on my mat, and learning how the brake petal also operated the lights. The guy at the Acura dealership gave me a new piece for free to put in my brake pedal arm. That's my story, thanks for listening.
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Carth Dookie posted:Is it you guys who buy up all the old muscle cars from the US? No, that'd be all the self employed carpenters in Sweden.
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I also had the little rubber pad on my brake pedal lever fall apart, but I just 3D printed a replacement piece because it's the 21st century
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Yeah just go 3D print something back when you were a teenager you moron. Jesus.
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