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Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Quavers posted:

:reddit: Goonie Haters going Reeeeeee is the new fireworks! Bless them and their pledges who got CIG dev's a space door and a barista hihi[/i]

:smuggo:
I thought it's parody, but it seems someone unironically wrote this.

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Sectopod
Aug 24, 2017

kilus aof posted:

It was okay. I was kid when I watched it and wouldn't turn it off, but it definitely wasn't great.

It's an ok Saturday morning cartoon for kids.
Still better than the Wing Commander movie.

Zazz Razzamatazz
Apr 19, 2016

by sebmojo

TheAgent posted:

can you imagine being that into loving WING COMMANDER of all poo poo that you are trying to preserve its history, including the loving lovely rear end gently caress of a movie

I mean goddamn read this. read it and weep for there is no God

I'm mean, wasn't he working for Roberts at the time? If he wanted to know the correct spelling of a kilrathi battleship or the name of some fighter couldn't he have just asked?

(I'm kidding, Croberts doesn't give a poo poo about any of that)

UnknownTarget
Sep 5, 2019


Current Citizen defense: "it's ok because he didn't BUY the boat".

ggangensis
Aug 24, 2018

:10bux:

TheAgent posted:

can you imagine being that into loving WING COMMANDER of all poo poo that you are trying to preserve its history, including the loving lovely rear end gently caress of a movie

I mean goddamn read this. read it and weep for there is no God

Poor Ben, of all things he could have used to flee reality he chose a loving gaming franchise that's dead since the nineties. Why not Star Trek or Star Wars? He could happily discuss how lovely discovery is with his fellow nerds, but no, he chose to become a "Wing Commander Historian"
As we speak of Ben, what is the current narrarive on the citizen front there? Is he still doing remote work for Cig?

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help
Happy Squadron 54 year everyone.

And a happy new space court.

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

kilus aof posted:

It's 2020 where I live and still no Star Citizen.

Dream harder my dude

stingtwo
Nov 16, 2012

ggangensis posted:

I doubt that CIG has the know-how to properly integrate Raytracing into CryEngine 3. But okay, let's assume they give this task to a junior dev that reads up on this stuff and has some more-or-less workable solution ready to go in a year or so:

In true CIG fashion there will probably be one raytracing-enhanced puddle somewhere, where, when you look at it, get single-digit fps with an 2080ti. Citizens will of course be ecstatic, "Wow, look at this puddle! This has never been done before! Here, take my money!" since that`s the cycle of things.
When I said CIG will implement it soon, thats :thejoke:

Company X announces feature Y, CIG makes an announcement that they too will also have feature Y, with no thought process on weather it's feasible or doable. Talk about it for 10 months of the year in videos and twitter, then either release sub-par poo poo or it never went beyond the video discussions, either reason is due to incompetence of what are basically 1st timers who have less development experience than people who sell asset flips on steam or just Chris having read a new thing and thinking it should be worked on instead.

Look at their pro-generation planets BS they have been spouting for 3 years now, it's not even close to what is considered progen.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

hottubrhymemachine posted:

edit: conspicuous by their absence were the A lister hollywood celebs from squadron 42, i’d have thought their tier 0 mark hamil and gillian anderson would be front and center. instead we got nothing... wonder what’s going on there. i’d love to be a fly on the wall...

Awhile back someone pointed out that we hadn't seen much of Anderson in awhile, and someone speculated that perhaps they had been licensed for a single film or work and that when they posted all those videos on youtube that used the license and they'd have to pay them again to actually use them in the game too, or that they could use them in Star Citizen but not SQ42.

It seems a bit of a stretch but man I really really want that to be true. It would be so amazing if Roberts paid millions to play director and hire famous people to dance around in pajamas for him, only to gently caress up the legalese so he can't even use what he filmed.

(Which, honestly, may even be an intentional plan to have an excuse for why the footage never sees the light of day, because it was baaaad)

Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003

https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/30/21042942/ai-dungeon-nick-walton-openai-gpt2-text-adventure-game-web-version-launch

Quick let's teach it about start citizen before Reddit does!

ggangensis
Aug 24, 2018

:10bux:

stingtwo posted:

When I said CIG will implement it soon, thats :thejoke:

Company X announces feature Y, CIG makes an announcement that they too will also have feature Y, with no thought process on weather it's feasible or doable. Talk about it for 10 months of the year in videos and twitter, then either release sub-par poo poo or it never went beyond the video discussions, either reason is due to incompetence of what are basically 1st timers who have less development experience than people who sell asset flips on steam or just Chris having read a new thing and thinking it should be worked on instead.

Look at their pro-generation planets BS they have been spouting for 3 years now, it's not even close to what is considered progen.

But... but... Chris said once they have their development pipelines in place everything will go at lightning speed! But, yeah, sometimes I think that even the devs of Hentai Sniper or Harem Trigger are more capable than CIG, the comparison to steam asset flips is actually quite on point, only difference is that CIG has really, really expensive assets, the rest is about on par.

ggangensis
Aug 24, 2018

:10bux:

AbstractNapper posted:

Happy Squadron 54 year everyone.

And a happy new space court.

Happy new year, is anyone celebrating New Year's Eve on Port Olisar with me?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Pixelate posted:

Vice doing articles for free...

I Sold My ‘Star Citizen’ Fleet To Finance a New Car

e: Oh balls it’s a 2016 necro. Still reads fine today though...



quote:

Up until this point, all ships had lifetime insurance (LTI) which meant free replacements when they were wrecked, instead of whatever insurance costs ended up being in the game. I decided to burn a gift card I'd gotten for my birthday on a second ship, something with a little more luxury value. It was $80 dollars and wasn't sold with a game pre-order, meaning I couldn't just trade in my Space Escort towards it.

I feel like both of these things are majorly insane and not nearly enough gets made out of them.

People spent thousands for LTI and they don't even know what that means. CIG doesn't even know what that means!!

Also, the idea that you can't buy new ships with pre-order ships, its crazy the backers just rolled over and accepted that. Thanks for kickstartering, you dumb fucks!

quote:

The game's official forums were buzzing with people bragging about their last-minute collapses of willpower and the glory of their theoretical space garages. I posted a throwaway joke about buyer's remorse, and within an hour someone had messaged me asking if I wanted to sell it. This came across like a scheme, and I ran through all of the possible ways I could get screwed. The risk of losing a ship that existed only as concept art failed to outweigh the reward of getting more money back than I'd blown on an impulse purchase. I agreed to send the ship once the money was safely in my bank account, and gave the buyer my PayPal details.

One hundred and forty-six dollars soon arrived in my account, far more than we agreed upon, and nearing twice the original price of the ship. This was setting off all kinds of alarms. When I asked, he admitted a mistake converting the money from Euro to USD, but that he was fine with me keeping it since I was doing him a favor. I was told to consider it a tip for cheerful, honest service. The sirens in the back of my skull continued for three days until the transfer officially cleared. I sent the ship and waited for the inevitability of getting what I deserved, an email telling me the money was being revoked from my account, but it never came.

Hahahaha what the fuuuuck, lmao definitely money laundering

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Dec 31, 2019

Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.
So my understanding of that Wing Commander Academy gofundme is that Ben hasn't done anything in 3 years except spend 10,000 dollars on animation cells and sketches.
Like, it doesn't appear that he's scanned any of it?

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Fidelitious posted:

Like, it doesn't appear that he's scanned any of it?

It was never mentioned again.

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer

ggangensis posted:

Happy new year, is anyone celebrating New Year's Eve on Port Olisar with me?

I'll celebrate by being sick in bed, which is quite frankly better than having to play Star Citizen in any capacity

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

2020 is going to be a great year for Star Citizen, once SOCKS v2 comes online, development will really kick into overdrive, and we’ll finally get to see Chris’ transcendent vision of high fidelity bartender physics in all of its glory.

colonelwest fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Dec 31, 2019

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018


:lol:

“Runaway quality of life effect”

How dare a normal gamer who isn’t a tedious game dad permanently entombed in a subterranean sim-pit, demand that the game not be punishingly boring and overflowing with mundane drudgery.

Completing a single mission should be a bewildering 3-4 hour slog complete with long space travel times, 20 minute train rides and fidelitous morning hygiene and dietary routines.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Okay but does Star Citizen have tressFX????

ggangensis
Aug 24, 2018

:10bux:

This is indeed a nice view into the bland and depressive reality of SC in the year of the lord 2020.

quote:

Everything StarMap
Often buggy, can't select certain markers sometimes, can't plot routes, it's outdated and clunky.

One could argue that after 8 years things like the star map should work more or less flawlessly, but no, not even route plotting works. One commando suggests a "quick fix", though:

quote:

A fast patch until a UI overhaul can happen would be a text based nav system, type your destination and confirm.

Which actually doesn't sound too bad, and as long as it is PC only, why not? I mean, yeah, it's CIG we are talking about, but such a thing should not take more than one or two months, depending on whether or not their UI supports text input via keyboard and has an easy to use list widget, so give or take a few weeks.

But Citizens are 100% in on the CIG narrative that every change, no matter how mundane it might be, is a task of biblical proportions:

quote:

I'm not a game developer, but from everything I know there's no such thing as a "fast patch". Even the most mundane things can require Herculean feats to implement. If it was that easy i'm sure they would have done so by now.

And this is exactly the point, these kind of changes should be doable in a small amount of time. This is basically UI-only without intersections with game logic, physics or anything else. But yet, CIG can't, probably because a) no one has thought about it yet or b) there is simply no person (left) with enough knowledge about that starmap-UI-code to make this change in an acceptable timeframe. Another theory is that their architecture is indeed so hosed up that this UI stuff is intertwined with gamelogic and messes in places it shouldn't, so every change is like navigating a minefield.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a pretty small enhancement. In normal games such an addition would be a bullet point in the patch notes and that's it. For CIG it is a big problem, let alone doing actual changes that mess with the physics, netcode and much more. These guys literally came with a knife to a gunfight. Sure, due to unlimited funding they can trial & error their way through whilst burning insane amounts of money, but well...

ggangensis fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Dec 31, 2019

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Star Citizen: I'm not a game developer

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"

:shepspends: posted:

Persistence is coming in a .x patch

Never change you terrible goons. Happy New Year!

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

ggangensis posted:

As we speak of Ben, what is the current narrarive on the citizen front there? Is he still doing remote work for Cig?

Yes! At Citcon, they gave out a glossy magazine that was full of lore he had written. What I saw looked very competent, if uninteresting.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



How's Operation Pitchfork going these days?

ggangensis
Aug 24, 2018

:10bux:

AlbieQuirky posted:

Yes! At Citcon, they gave out a glossy magazine that was full of lore he had written. What I saw looked very competent, if uninteresting.

Can't tell if serious or not :raise:

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
Lore of what, of a half assed planetoid, a station and supertech that lets you fall through floors?

marumaru
May 20, 2013



precision posted:

Star Citizen: I'm not a game developer
Star Citizen: I'm not a game developer, but

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016

Please don't buy an idriss to your families. We need moppers and bartenders and bedroom cleaners, let them earn the right to buy it themselves.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

ggangensis posted:

Can't tell if serious or not :raise:

Serious. By “competent” here I mean “grammar and syntax appeared to be correct formal English,” which, compared to most of what happened at Citcon, stood out.

Sillybones
Aug 10, 2013

go away,
spooky skeleton,
go away
The best thing about the long development cycle is you can spawn many children in this time-frame and by the time the game is out they should be flight ready (youngest can operated the easiest roles). You don't even have to pay them any creds to mop your deck.

Dooguk
Oct 11, 2016

Pillbug
Well, planet Earth has completed another lap of the Sun. Happy New year Goons and Commandos everywhere.

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


Sillybones posted:

The best thing about the long development cycle is you can spawn many children in this time-frame and by the time the game is out they should be flight ready (youngest can operated the easiest roles). You don't even have to pay them any creds to mop your deck.

Its kinda true though, some dudes bought starter packs for their kids when the funding started. If they were 10 they'd be adults soon.

marumaru
May 20, 2013



happy new year nonbelievers

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

colonelwest posted:

2020 is going to be a great year for Star Citizen, once SOCKS v2 comes online, development will really kick into overdrive, and we’ll finally get to see Chris’ transcendent vision of high fidelity bartender physics in all of its glory.

I believe it’s pronounced ‘sockocks’.

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

AntherUslessPoster posted:

Lore of what, of a half assed planetoid, a station and supertech that lets you fall through floors?

Well you see all of the 100 star systems that Star Citizen will have someday already have reams of lovely and derivative lore written for them, so that means that they will definitely all be in the game when it launches sometime around the turn of the next century.

colonelwest fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Jan 1, 2020

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

AntherUslessPoster posted:

Lore of what, of a half assed planetoid, a station and supertech that lets you fall through floors?

That's part of the great Star Citizen Illusion, and the presumption of success that surrounds this project like a miasma of poo poo.

Real games, ones that have gameplay, don't generally bother with lore until they know the game works. Think the original Warcraft. "But why is this happening? gently caress it, toss something together." Over time once you know you can make a game, you can think of the lore earlier on and weave it in

If you're a company that makes RPGs primarily lore might be really early on, or done in tandem with game dev.

But for CIG having truckloads of "lore" is a way of proving that, like the other game development companies, of course a game will come out. Otherwise why go through all the trouble? Same can be said for literally everything surrounding this dumpster fire, from the cinematics to the mystery "LTI" cribbed from other games but which has no definition, "mining" which implies the existence of a nonexistent crafting and economy system, and pretty much every loving ship JPEG they've shat out for the better part of a decade.

And the morons still paying Chris take all this poo poo at face value, as if he can make it all happen, despite literal decades of accumulated contrary evidence.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





UnknownTarget posted:

Current Citizen defense: "it's ok because he didn't BUY the boat".

"You don't know how much he gets paid, maybe he can afford the mansion"

YEAH DUDE THAT'S THE PROBLEM

SvenRichter
Apr 5, 2015

Look at my face.
Happy new year, frens. Can't wait to play SC with all of you, once it gets released in 2014.

DigitalPenny
Sep 3, 2018

Beet Wagon posted:

"You don't know how much he gets paid, maybe he can afford the mansion"

YEAH DUDE THAT'S THE PROBLEM

He's always been super successful and rich though.

I mean he could afford a 5 million dollar mansion but needed to beg for 400k to make a space game....

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DigitalPenny
Sep 3, 2018

UnknownTarget posted:

Uhhh what??? Where'd this come from?

Did a bit of digging, it's just speculation from one dude based on the Calder's chaps stepping down from the board of directors..

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