Nalin posted:

It's like overheating your mech in MechWarrior, except it lasts longer and your shields go away and then you have to do the cockpit startup sequence all over again. Imagine overheating in MechWarrior during a fight and suddenly losing all your armor. You die instantly.

G0RF posted:

YOUTUBE: Twerk calls 2019 “A Step in the Right Direction” for Star Citizen.

Come on, man. Get serious.

Bofast posted:

I think Planescape Torment or some similar game had rat enemies that got smarter and more dangerous (to the point of casting spells?) the more there were in the same small area. I guess Citizens become dumber and/or more crazy the more of them there are in the same online forum?
Edit: old backers who woke up and left not included, of course

enlightened citizen posted:

"with SOCS in game alongside that sexy Planet Tech v4 that the detractors have finally lost one of their final legs left to stand on"

Scruffpuff posted:

That's part of the great Star Citizen Illusion, and the presumption of success that surrounds this project like a miasma of poo poo.

Real games, ones that have gameplay, don't generally bother with lore until they know the game works. Think the original Warcraft. "But why is this happening? gently caress it, toss something together." Over time once you know you can make a game, you can think of the lore earlier on and weave it in

If you're a company that makes RPGs primarily lore might be really early on, or done in tandem with game dev.

But for CIG having truckloads of "lore" is a way of proving that, like the other game development companies, of course a game will come out. Otherwise why go through all the trouble? Same can be said for literally everything surrounding this dumpster fire, from the cinematics to the mystery "LTI" cribbed from other games but which has no definition, "mining" which implies the existence of a nonexistent crafting and economy system, and pretty much every loving ship JPEG they've shat out for the better part of a decade.

And the morons still paying Chris take all this poo poo at face value, as if he can make it all happen, despite literal decades of accumulated contrary evidence.

peter gabriel posted:

A very deep authoritative voice can be compelling though, this is why chris sounds like pingu, because he gets everything wrong

UnknownTarget posted:

No it should be fine. Games use several tricks to approximate day traced lighting, which Cryengine is doubtlessly using. One of the major ones is baked lighting and another one is a reflection probe. Baked lighting literally "bakes" Ray traced lighting into light maps (textures) which are then used to make areas darker or lighter. It costs nothing to render and as long as none of the lights move it looks just as good as Ray traced lighting. Reflection probes basically capture the scene from a general area in a 360 map and apply it to the object as color, creating "reflections" and tinting dynamic objects so they match the scene.

After that I think it's down to just having really efficient real time lighting calculations for dynamic lights.

The reason why laymen don't see the benefit to ray tracing in real time applications is because the industry had gotten so good at taking it that doing it for real isn't that noticeably different. However all the stuff I described requires work and render time, to bake out the lighting. With real time ray tracing it's a lot easier: just plop down the lights and they'll "just work".

So short answer: Star Citizen will probably look the same, real time ray tracing or not.

ggangensis posted:

I doubt that CIG has the know-how to properly integrate Raytracing into CryEngine 3. But okay, let's assume they give this task to a junior dev that reads up on this stuff and has some more-or-less workable solution ready to go in a year or so:

In true CIG fashion there will probably be one raytracing-enhanced puddle somewhere, where, when you look at it, get single-digit fps with an 2080ti. Citizens will of course be ecstatic, "Wow, look at this puddle! This has never been done before! Here, take my money!" since that`s the cycle of things.

precision posted:

Okay but does Star Citizen have tressFX????

Beet Wagon posted:

"You don't know how much he gets paid, maybe he can afford the mansion"

YEAH DUDE THAT'S THE PROBLEM

Rugganovich posted:

As an original backer who hasn't left, in my defense, I think I'm still in shock.

jarlywarly posted:

The rumour with Warcraft is that it was going to be a Warhammer fantasy licenced game and Games Workshop pulled out so they redid the lore aspects.

Horizon Burning posted:

not a rumor, blizzard admitted in an interview a few years back that they were trying for it. you can even recolor some of the units (wolves to boars, for example) to see just how much they based on it

posted:

Each patch me and one of my friends play for a few days pretty heavily. If there aren't that many bugs, we invite our friends that are on the fence about the game. Without fail the bugs are magnified. After doing this a few times I think it is because of two things

-Adding more players to a group increases the odds that someone finds a bug but more importantly

-Adding more players to a ship or general area increases the odds of a bug.

This last time we struggled through a 10 hr session of crashes and bugs and deaths etc. Finally, for the last couple hours, we had been separated enough that we needed to take 3 separate ships and rally up somewhere. We figured we would do separate delivery missions and share them among each other to profit. It was the most bug free experience our 4 person group had ever had.

That being said, for the time being, when we play in big groups it'll be spread out over several ships instead of everyone in one.

posted:

I just bought my first starter package a few hours ago and came to reddit to see what other new players have been experiencing.

I was hoping that it was just really bad luck on my part, but my experience sounds very similar to OP's. I spent around 7 hours trying to do one mission and never even finished getting to the rendezvous. Well, technically I did make it once, but the server booted me the instant I got there.

I died to an elevator twice. I'm pretty sure this is because the particular hangar elevators I had to take were on a rail path straight through other building geometries.

I got stuck on a tram that decided to stop working.

I had to restart after a major blurry graphical glitch that obscured everything.

I experienced 6 full server disconnections and a few instances where menus and doors stopped working for about 10 minutes. I know this isn't client side because it happened to my friends too.

I also died from someone barely bumping into me.

In combination with simply not knowing keys, abilities, and the station layout, it was a good 7 hour experience of pure problems, including about an hour and a half trying to figure out how to sell a tiny little green present I found.

I'm hoping that the server crashing is as rare as you say they are, because it was happening a LOT today. Now I'm just trying to successfully get off this planet and homed on another because a lot of my issues might be associated with the location itself. Not sure it's name, lots of yellow worker themed stuff.

So in all, I don't think he's the unluckiest player. Two friends and I went through the same thing, and I'm not sure someone's issue-free experience really accounts to any relevance on the matter.

Pixelate posted:

Reading all of the 'game melts when I show it to people' posts on the sub, and the noob car crash experiences, it seems like there's a pretty common theme.

Try and play it as an MMO and it goes all triangles...

quote:

Finally got time to check out 3.8, so purged USER, verfied, and go.

First, spawn at Lorville. Everyone standing, framerate atrocious (6700k+1070 SLI, low teens). Sky flickers. Managed to board the train, crash to desktop.

Restart, try to continue, just spinning circle, and nothing happens for 20 minutes. Close, purge USER, verify, try again.

Start at Grim Hex, circle again. Kill game, kill USER, restart, start at Olisar. Framerate again atrocious, everyone standing. managed to select ship, but when walking away from terminal, crash to desktop. Rejoin failed (spinning circle).

Two more tries, using different zoned servers, virtually the same, can't rejoin, crash always before I get to airlock.

Next day, managed to get to the pad at Olisar, but framerate suddenly went down from 40 to 2-3. After minute or two, game crashed, still can't rejoin.

quote:

I call bullshit.

Inacio posted:

going through controversial on reddit and 95% of posts are from people that dare say anything about how poo poo the game is right now. naturally, all the hot posts are either dumb screenshots of an empty planet or happy new year messages

G0RF posted:

YOUTUBE: Twerk calls 2019 “A Step in the Right Direction” for Star Citizen.

Come on, man. Get serious.

Fidelitious posted:

I'm confused and horrified by the people talking about 7 HOUR and 10 HOUR long bug-riddled sessions full of crashes! What's wrong with these people?

I was somewhat recently playing one of the quite old Call of Duty games and my Russian buddy apparently got stuck on a gate somewhere so the game couldn't make him show up and open a critical door to progress.
After checking online that this was a known bug and that the only workaround is restarting the level I promptly quit the game, uninstalled it, and just read what happens in the remainder of the campaign (there were only 1.5 levels left at that point).

I don't have time to waste on game-breaking bugs, but apparently there are people out there with a spare 10 hours to spend on this?

Inacio posted:

Fidelitious posted:

I'm confused and horrified by the people talking about 7 HOUR and 10 HOUR long bug-riddled sessions full of crashes! What's wrong with these people?

I was somewhat recently playing one of the quite old Call of Duty games and my Russian buddy apparently got stuck on a gate somewhere so the game couldn't make him show up and open a critical door to progress.
After checking online that this was a known bug and that the only workaround is restarting the level I promptly quit the game, uninstalled it, and just read what happens in the remainder of the campaign (there were only 1.5 levels left at that point).

I don't have time to waste on game-breaking bugs, but apparently there are people out there with a spare 10 hours to spend on this?

colonelwest posted:

The group that actually plays Star Citizen regularly though, tends to be comparatively realistic about its state and prospects just through shear attrition. They’re usually the ones demanding that CIG actually fix the horrid bugs and jank that has been in the PU for years. But like the rest of the cult, they preface every criticism with a profession of faith in the holy progress and that Chris Roberts will someday deliver them the BDSSE.

Inacio posted:

oh man you should see ingame chat.
people mention bugs and share their frustration and Citizens tell them to gently caress off and such

Fidelitious posted:

I'm confused and horrified by the people talking about 7 HOUR and 10 HOUR long bug-riddled sessions full of crashes! What's wrong with these people?

I was somewhat recently playing one of the quite old Call of Duty games and my Russian buddy apparently got stuck on a gate somewhere so the game couldn't make him show up and open a critical door to progress.
After checking online that this was a known bug and that the only workaround is restarting the level I promptly quit the game, uninstalled it, and just read what happens in the remainder of the campaign (there were only 1.5 levels left at that point).

I don't have time to waste on game-breaking bugs, but apparently there are people out there with a spare 10 hours to spend on this?

Pixelate posted:

I also died from someone barely bumping into me.

Rugganovich posted:

Funny thing about cryengine and raytracing

https://www.cryengine.com/news/view/how-we-made-neon-noir-ray-traced-reflections-in-cryengine-and-more

quote:

From 2015 CRYENGINE has used a form of ray tracing for our in-house GI solution, Total Illumination, used in shipped titles like Kingdom Come: Deliverance and our very own Hunt: Showdown. Until now, one of the limitations of CRYENGINE’s GI solution was the level of detail in real-time reflections.

precision posted:

Star Citizen: I'm not a game developer