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Daztek posted:What a twist. I guess as long as Squadron 42 isn't released, there isn't a reason to sue them lol Lol this has me curious, what could have been found on discovery that would want crater to dismiss the case monetarily and have CIG spooked enough that they wouldn’t want it to be dismissed
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Lol this has me curious, what could have been found on discovery that would want crater to dismiss the case monetarily and have CIG spooked enough that they wouldn’t want it to be dismissed Squadron 42 doesn't actually exist? 
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Daztek posted:Squadron 42 doesn't actually exist? 
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Mu77ley posted:Phoenix Point is actually extremely good. It's a worse version of the xcom remake missing quite a few promised features and the devs are complete assholes who broke Kickstarter promises then told their backers to deal with it. But at least they did deliver a game so I don't think Phoenix Point deserves to be called a failure.
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Cripes, that court doc was actually a good read. But holy hell, if it doesn't get dismissed, the new court date just got pushed out 4 more months into October.
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Kikas posted:Well then they will loving never get sued lol  Add this to the pile of reasons why SQ53 won't see the light of day. I mean, what do citizens want to do about it? "Listen Chris, we don't buy new ships if you don't get your act together"? Yeah, sure. In reality, they will buy more, that's how insane this whole thing became.
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Saw this on the games subreddit, when I saw there was a thread about the lawsuit I went to the comments expecting the Citizen Defense Brigade and sure enough there they were.
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Your guess of "2-3 years" is... interesting, when there is a public roadmap available.
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Inacio posted:Saw this on the games subreddit, when I saw there was a thread about the lawsuit I went to the comments expecting the Citizen Defense Brigade and sure enough there they were. This is also one of the reasons this whole projects deserves to die rather sooner than later. I mean, sure, other games also have annoying fanboys, but Citizens see the development of their "dream" in danger if too much bad press leads to the dry up of money. So they feel it's their holy duty to defend SC, lie about it and lure other people in to do "their" part. It's disgusting and needs to stop.
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Inacio posted:Saw this on the games subreddit, when I saw there was a thread about the lawsuit I went to the comments expecting the Citizen Defense Brigade and sure enough there they were.  lol
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Xarbala posted:Even Crytek knows there ain't no blood in this stone pack it in goonfailures 
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To me, this confirms why Skadden bowed out. I suspect that they had gotten CIG to settle out of court. Crytek said no we want to ruin them. Skadden saw something like this as likely and pushed back. Crytek wanted blood. Skadden said gently caress off we only want cases we can win. Crytek gets a new firm that's willing to squeeze the stone for them. Oops that new firm runs into something that might keep them from winning. Here we are
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Love these guys. I think they would argue against something they actually hold true if it was posted by a goon/skeptic/refundian.
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Daztek posted:Squadron 42 doesn't actually exist? An actual lawyer(tm) on Twitter was speculating that the lawsuit hinges on Squadron 42 being released, and discovery has turned up evidence from CIG indicating Squadron 42 isn't going to be released for "years", if ever. But this is good for Star Citizen I'm sure.
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Tippis posted:For some reason, this comparison (and notably the logical extension where those companies actually manage to turn a net profit as opposed to CI¬G's desperate need for ever greater whales and investors and other non-backing sources) reminded me of this old gem from Conspiracy of Fools: That Enron quote is great. I believe the issue was compunded with the fact that the E in EBITDA was inflated thanks to the "mark to market" make believe accountancy of the time.
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Daztek posted:What a twist. I guess as long as Squadron 42 isn't released, there isn't a reason to sue them lol This would explain the complete lack of news about SQ42 progress. CIG now wants the current suit to continue, loving  at everything!
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Der Shovel posted:An actual lawyer(tm) on Twitter was speculating that the lawsuit hinges on Squadron 42 being released, and discovery has turned up evidence from CIG indicating Squadron 42 isn't going to be released for "years", if ever. That was my read as well.
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Wouldn't that be good for CIG though? Why would they fight to keep the case going? Or is their issue just the "without prejudice" part when they want it gone forever
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Sankis posted:Wouldn't that be good for CIG though? Why would they fight to keep the case going? Or is their issue just the "without prejudice" part when they want it gone forever Because something about the way the case is currently articulated will cause them to win as long as SQ42 doesn't come out. This is loving hilarious - SQ42 isn't just delayed because CIG can't make it, it's also intentionally delayed due to the nuts and bolts of the current lawsuit. Crytek: You can't make two games! CIG: Joke's on you! We're only making one! Cytek: Nooooooo! (loses lawsuit) CIG: Yay! (Makes second game.) Notice how NOTHING of SQ42 was showed this year?
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Scruffpuff posted:Notice how NOTHING of SQ42 was showed this year? heh, WRONG, non-believer! they showed a video of some art assets and a t-posing alien! checkmate, fudster!
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Der Shovel posted:An actual lawyer(tm) on Twitter was speculating that the lawsuit hinges on Squadron 42 being released, and discovery has turned up evidence from CIG indicating Squadron 42 isn't going to be released for "years", if ever. Cue in SC/SQ42 remaining in early access, alpha or beta forever. All the while monetizing it? Not that this kind of strategy is new to them though.
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After years of fighting tooth and nail to dismiss they are now fighting to have it thrashed out ?!? You just can't make this poo poo up it's that unbelievable. *Crytek lose on the grounds they are developing no games *Also don't they know CIG dropped the G?
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So that's why SQ54 wasn't mentioned at all during Citconned.  If CI`g release any version including beta/alpha/whatever of SQ54 then they are in the poo poo, but if they don't release anything then they are in the poo poo. Glad to see them finally having to eat that poo poo sandwich, without the bread. Sabreseven fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Jan 3, 2020 |
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How many millions deep are they on SQ42 anyway? I’m gonna guess at least 50(ish) millions. Also weren’t the British tax credits dependent on SQ42?
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Scruffpuff posted:Because something about the way the case is currently articulated will cause them to win as long as SQ42 doesn't come out. This is loving hilarious - SQ42 isn't just delayed because CIG can't make it, it's also intentionally delayed due to the nuts and bolts of the current lawsuit. At the same time though I think that's what he's (the reddit guy) speculating on that crytek will always keep the threat of the lawsuit around and if sq42 was to ever release then the full force of the lawyers would spring into action. So either due to the lawsuit or that cig really hasn't made anything at all, sq42 is likely never to release. But back our kickstarter for Formation 65 of the Galaxy People universe! Now made with no corruption and all money goes to development and not fighting lawsuits.
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This is legit hilarious.
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MedicineHut posted:Cue in SC/SQ42 remaining in early access, alpha or beta forever. All the while monetizing it? Not that this kind of strategy is new to them though. Apparently being released in any shape or form be that alpha, early access or whatever, counts for loving CIG over. They had a license to build and release one game, and I don't think a court's going to be bowled over by arguments of "well it's not RELEASED RELEASED, it's still version 0.99991235156123b not 1.0". So I dunno. I guess we're never seeing Squadron 42 now, and ol' Hairy Roberts has a built in excuse: "if we release it, they shut down the company. So sorry, we did our best and the game was amazing but now we can never show it to you". Or "we have to start all over with a new engine, so development of Squadron 42 starts in 2019, gonna be 6-7 years, pledge now we need your money".
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MarcusSA posted:How many millions deep are they on SQ42 anyway? I’m gonna guess at least 50(ish) millions. It's gotta be wayyyy higher than 50, all that mo-cap, all those studio rentals, the reshoots, business class plane tickets for the team to the Ima-inarium. The tax credits were dependant on SQ54 last time I looked.
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Same for the Calders investment right? All depending on SQ42?
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peter gabriel posted:This is legit hilarious. Forty Seconded.
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This is some legit funny poo poo I tell you what.
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MarcusSA posted:Same for the Calders investment right? They did say it was for "marketing" relating to SQ42. No matter which way it goes now, it's going to bite deeply, might explain why CR was all "This is, well, this is the end" at Citconned.
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Star Citizen is the grift that keeps on giving.
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A strange game. The only winning move is to never answer the call
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SQ2020 engine change and Epic Games release please.
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Epic Games release would be so sweet. Also CIG probably want the lawsuit settled because if the court rules they can release SQ54, it makes them more attractive for investment. "Yeah we're releasing a game but we might get sued as soon as we do" isn't a good investment look. Crytek is probably in the right here at least on the motion though. The court is likely to rule you can't sue someone because they're going to do something and dismiss the case without prejudice, with instructions to refile later. Especially since the court doesn't appear to want to issue and injunction.
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Bofast posted:Are you talking about The Titanic? To be fair Titanic only squatted once and that didn't turn out to well.
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