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For hundreds of years, people have tried to use alchemy to turn things into gold, spurred on by tales such as King Midas turning everything he touched into the precious metal. In the year 2020, one man continues this noble tradition but with a difference, with a deft grasp on the art of handwavium Christ Robblers has found a way to turn everything he massages, into hot dog poo poo. More legal taxxe; 
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Jan 4, 2020 14:33
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I must admit I enjoy this particular state of quantum development superposition that SQ42 seems to be in. The development is so open that multiple states can coexist at the same time. But looking at them creates interference.
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Jan 4, 2020 14:37
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Star posted:No real thread on the suit, as far as I can see, on the SC Reddit. Seems strange to me, especially in light of these last twists. There was one thread earlier with a moderate number of comments, but it mostly consisted of citizens celebrating that Crytec HAS NO CASE without understanding why.
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Jan 4, 2020 15:01
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 I see goons are still masturbating over useless court docs to ease their depression lol 90daysDoc is the new meme for 2020 lol
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Jan 4, 2020 15:23
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Meridian posted:Which one of you idiots wants to die pointlessly in my Kenshi game? Me me me ooh me ooh me
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Jan 4, 2020 15:43
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Quavers posted:
Well, that betrays a certain misunderstanding of legal pleadings, but then these are people that preordered a videogame nearly a decade ago, so I guess it counts as logic?
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Jan 4, 2020 15:48
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Quavers posted:
There's a cash spaffing joke somewhere in there
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Jan 4, 2020 16:32
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Holy poo poo that leak about them folding sq42 into SC might be 100% real Goddamn
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Jan 4, 2020 16:36
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Quavers posted:
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Jan 4, 2020 16:41
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TheAgent posted:Holy poo poo that leak about them folding sq42 into SC might be 100% real Which kind of brings us back full circle to the original pitch which was you'd start off in the single player game and when you finished it you would enter the multiplayer world.
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Jan 4, 2020 16:42
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Didn't they at one point sell them seperately? Something like 45 bucks for SC, 45 bucks for SQ42, 60 bucks for both? Or did they never went through with this? If they did, isn't that a pretty clear indicator that SQ42 is a standalone product? Another thing that came to my mind yesterday: during CitCon, they said the worked eight months on the battlefield-clone no one asked for, which also didn't appear on any roadmap in the most open development ever, which they say is directly created from their internal kanban system. Isn't that roughly the time since when SQ42 progress basically totally stalled, and also roughly the time when the court case was accepted?  if they stopped work on SQ42, shifted the ressources to create SOMETHING with all the assets while waiting to see what happens on the legal front against CryTek. Pure speculation of course, but to this day I can't fathom how they internally decided to work on that battlefield-clone.
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Jan 4, 2020 16:44
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TheAgent posted:Holy poo poo that leak about them folding sq42 into SC might be 100% real Lol, was that a leak too? I came up with it just theory crafting in this thread.
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Jan 4, 2020 16:45
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Agony Aunt posted:So, all those debates on whether CIG plan to release one or two games and how that go on, are in the end, all worthless, since CIG themselves claim they don't know. Ok, we know CIG will say whatever they need to say to wiggle out of commitments, but this is in a court statement, so its pretty official, even if internally they really have plans, but don't want to admit to that because it would hurt their case. That's why it's IMO a good move for Crytek to put the lawsuit on the shelf until Roberts' bullshit superposition collapses and he is forced to release Squadron 42 in some form. Otherwise at the trial they'd just go "no good gosh we wouldn't release TWO separate games, they're totally the same game your honor" and then two years later just dump Squadron 42 out and get away with it.
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Jan 4, 2020 16:50
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tuo posted:Didn't they at one point sell them seperately? Something like 45 bucks for SC, 45 bucks for SQ42, 60 bucks for both? No, they never sold any games - just pledges to find the most open development of a game or two or none in history.
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Jan 4, 2020 16:58
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tuo posted:Didn't they at one point sell them seperately? Something like 45 bucks for SC, 45 bucks for SQ42, 60 bucks for both? They did, which is pretty damning if they want to say they are selling it as a single game.
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Jan 4, 2020 17:11
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TheAgent posted:Holy poo poo that leak about them folding sq42 into SC might be 100% real Re the $26 millions, wouldnt they then need to convince the UK authorities that the "updated" SC is still majorly developed and staffed in the UK? (costs, resources etc). I mean not sure how the tax man there would check but I suspect CIG would be forced to dislodge some of its US and Ger ressources and move or recreate them in the UK, at the very least.
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Jan 4, 2020 17:15
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Wasn't one of the original promises for SQ42 that it would end with your character being transferred over to SC along with some extras you earned along the way? It'd be easy for CIG to spin the merger: "This is the natural progression of SQ42's development; now you'll get to experience the game's rich and engaging story within SC, allowing for even greater immersion!" ...while simultaneously being able to pretend like there's been a lot of progress on it behind the scenes. I mean, there must be if they're making such drastic changes, right? It's just around the corner! Don't worry about the latest roadmap showing that a bunch of the game's content still doesn't exist...
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Jan 4, 2020 17:15
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shrach posted:Coutts still have the charge registered but the loan amount was zero at the year end after the Calders money came in. How does that even work? (Is it just lag in the filings? Some caveat beyond the repayment that hasn't been fulfilled?) shrach posted:I've mentioned this several times in the past because it is one of the things I never understood. As part of the UK video game tax credit, Foundry 42 Ltd (as they were originally known) has already received ~$26m in tax credits on the premise that it is wholly responsible for a new separate game called Squadron 42. That tax credit is claiming that they spent $130m on the game Squadron 42 (since 20% tax credit = $26m). All the wording in the current filings make it sounds like they want to be able to pick right up where they left off post SQ42 launch. Makes it sound like they're still thinking of keeping the US-side circus running at minimum.
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Jan 4, 2020 17:38
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I"m beginning to think PC gaming will never be saved.
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Jan 4, 2020 17:42
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Dooguk posted:I"m beginning to think PC gaming will never be saved. There was never anything to save, PC gaming, outside of the AAA, is doing just fine.
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Jan 4, 2020 17:48
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Dooguk posted:I"m beginning to think PC gaming will never be saved.  
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Jan 4, 2020 17:52
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Dooguk posted:I"m beginning to think PC gaming will never be saved. But consoles won't know what hit them. It'll be an invisible commando in his pants
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Jan 4, 2020 17:56
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Bug interlude. This sounds way too ludicrous to be correct.I ran into the most amazing bug in any game I have ever played posted:Not sure when it started, but I noticed when I got into a ship that the UI wouldn't load any targets for me to jump to, and in mobiglass, none of the planets/satellites had names. It made quantum travel near impossible so I was stuck at olisar for the past few days. This reply sounds even more ludicrous and untrue. But also like something CIG would do.
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Jan 4, 2020 18:00
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Tinfoil Papercut posted:I saw a video on youtube which went something like: I saw that video!!!!! It was the greatest thirty minutes of SC play I have ever seen! said no one.
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Jan 4, 2020 18:23
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Pixelate posted:How does that even work? (Is it just lag in the filings? Some caveat beyond the repayment that hasn't been fulfilled?) I assume the loan has always been a flexible one, kind of like an overdraft facility. Since it is still available to them, the charge remains even though the current balance may be zero. Or yeah, no one remembered to file.
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Jan 4, 2020 18:42
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Agony Aunt posted:Wow, this is hot court news. That face when Derek Smart was right...  What should shock folks is just how many CIG employees repeated the lie for Chris over the course of several years. Brian Chambers deserves special commendation for his Best Dramatic Monologue performance on Batgirl all those years back. Rotten Red Rod posted:Lol, was that a leak too? I came up with it just theory crafting in this thread. Alas, Derek has been suggesting this as a fallback strategy for CIG since not after the lawsuit news broke. At this point, I really think Chris is looking for any excuse to avoid having to release Squadron as a game. Not as a stand-alone, not as an SC module. It’s great as a tax fraud device, historic as a Hollywood / Gaming crossover story, and intoxicating as a theoretical for all the Wing Commander nostalgiacs our there. So long as it continues in this abstracted, unrealized form, it’s absolutely perfect. But realizing it as a modern AAA 2020 title is too heavy a lift. He’d rather just give it The Spirits Within treatment so the world can experience his “vision” but he can avoid having his Daikatana moment with the gaming press and public. That escape plan might’ve existed a couple years ago, but now Clive Calder owns a 10% stake in a half a billion dollar gaming company. Seems kinda like he’s obliged to deliver what he pitched at this point.
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Jan 4, 2020 18:54
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G0RF posted:That face when Derek Smart was right... It baffled me when Chris said the switch to Lumberyard has taken them one or two days. This is absolutely impossible, even when they magically sat on the exact same CryEngine revision. Everyone that was involved in a larger software project at one point has to know that even in a best-case scenario there will be merge conflicts, unforeseen difficulties and such. Changing the complete foundation of such an enormous code base, even if identical or at least similar, costs a lot of time and effort. However, my conclusion was wrong. I thought they switched, but it took them months and Chris just lied about the time to not piss of the backers with his wasteful management style. However, the backers believed him, praised him for the fast change and Derek was the only person actually calling him out for this bullshit claim.
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Jan 4, 2020 19:17
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ErrEff posted:Wasn't one of the original promises for SQ42 that it would end with your character being transferred over to SC along with some extras you earned along the way? It'd be easy for CIG to spin the merger: Yeah I've read somewhere that there were to be 2 options for starting Star Citizen - either as an unwashed peasant with little to his name if you jump right in or an esteemed captain if the star fleet if you bother to go through Squadron 42 campaign. The latter was also supposed to get you a ship.
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Jan 4, 2020 19:34
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Kikas posted:Yeah I've read somewhere that there were to be 2 options for starting Star Citizen - either as an unwashed peasant with little to his name if you jump right in or an esteemed captain if the star fleet if you bother to go through Squadron 42 campaign. The latter was also supposed to get you a ship. Or you can buy loads of UEC... Seems that current noobies are discovering the new aUEC cap though: 3.8 LIVE - NO DEFAULT STARTING AUEC quote:With the update to our LIVE alpha servers to patch 3.8, the current default starting aUEC for all players has been set to be a base of zero aUEC, plus any bonus UEC that is attributed directly to your RSI account. This means a player without any bonus starting aUEC, as indicated on their account balance on the website, will need to complete missions to begin earning a balance of money. While this is a big change from previous patches, this is not a bug and is not something that can be addressed by RSI support staff by request through a support ticket. The sub is kind of arguing over whether the lack of starter pack UEC is a bug or not. And sometimes just saying stuff like this:
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Jan 4, 2020 20:00
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Kikas posted:Yeah I've read somewhere that there were to be 2 options for starting Star Citizen - either as an unwashed peasant with little to his name if you jump right in or an esteemed captain if the star fleet if you bother to go through Squadron 42 campaign. The latter was also supposed to get you a ship. I've always wanted to play as an unwashed peasant. Star Peasant sounds awesome. AAAA gaming at its finest. Actually I hope SC goes F2P... hehe
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Jan 4, 2020 20:01
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Friendly reminder CI!G has had not one, but TWO (one not related to SQ42 but in my deepest dreams related to that stupid loving door) lawsuits filed against them and still haven't released SQ42. Store Citizern is really Strike Commander: Electricboogaloo 2, We done Goofed.
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Jan 4, 2020 20:03
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shrach posted:I assume the loan has always been a flexible one, kind of like an overdraft facility. Since it is still available to them, the charge remains even though the current balance may be zero. Or yeah, no one remembered to file. An open credit line would certainly be handy!
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Jan 4, 2020 20:17
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Kosumo posted:I liked how one of the stretch goals was to make their own mo-cap studio but as soon as Chris got the money, he raced off to a top Hollywood level facility to do it in. Pretty sure they did both. They bought many dozens of high end DSLR cameras at one point, then later made a smaller studio for motion capturing tinier animations like things that don't require a full set. When you're Chris Roberts though, you never require just the small affordable thing.
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Jan 4, 2020 20:19
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ggangensis posted:It baffled me when Chris said the switch to Lumberyard has taken them one or two days. This is absolutely impossible, even when they magically sat on the exact same CryEngine revision. Everyone that was involved in a larger software project at one point has to know that even in a best-case scenario there will be merge conflicts, unforeseen difficulties and such. Changing the complete foundation of such an enormous code base, even if identical or at least similar, costs a lot of time and effort. I think even the more fanatic fans understand that there was no physical change of the code at all. They just honest to god think that because CE and LY share most libraries the change only rightfully required a signed agreement.
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Jan 4, 2020 20:32
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G0RF posted:YOUTUBE: Twerk calls 2019 “A Step in the Right Direction” for Star Citizen. Idiot promoting a liar, it’s  The more money they all burn and lose, the more entertaining the aftermath will be after breaking all negative records in the history of game devel.... 😂 Yeah, the final letter of the chairman will be a future Meme forever.The only question will be if the Roberts Clan earned more (number of) millions in Dollars than the game non-development took (number of) years after all is said and (not) done. We already know the answer I guess.
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Jan 4, 2020 20:35
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I just want to take a moment to sit on my smug rear end throne and smile a little smile when I remember that I called this. I called it that all of SQ42 was dead and that it was the lawsuit that killed it. As long as this was being litigated, they would have to be suicidal to continue progress. Sure they might be making assets and things that some random goon on the internet who knows nothing about video game development can name, but production is production no matter what. But there is no way that they make a second game out of it all. Not when the GLA is crystal clear and code can be verified. After all these years it's going to be folded into the PU if ever and now I wonder what that does to all of the people that bought it as a standalone purchase? Goddamn Clownshoes Robberts a on incompetent loving fraud.
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Jan 4, 2020 20:38
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Dogeh posted:
It already is F2P = free to pay  Furthermore: The 60 Dollar for 2 AAAA games basically are a steal and free in that perspective . It is your entry fee so that you can board a capital ship and clean the closet of that Legatus pack commander 
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Jan 4, 2020 20:41
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Pixelate posted:Or you can buy loads of UEC... Peasants. They should use referrals to get starting credits and spend more to ensure they can actually make a decent start after a wipe. Let them eat cake.
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Jan 4, 2020 21:22
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Agony Aunt posted:Peasants. They should use referrals to get starting credits and spend more to ensure they can actually make a decent start after a wipe. Let them eat cake. I think the referral creds aren't turning up either. But I figure it's their problem, so haven't dug any further. They should probably just save up for the money printing ship anyway. Bound to be one of those sold soon.
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PCGamesN: Crytek pretty sure Squadron 42 won’t be coming out this year NEWSWEEK: 'STAR CITIZEN' LAWSUIT UPDATE SUGGESTS 'SQUADRON 42' RELEASE DATE NOT SOON
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