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I’m not a big gambler but these stories make me sad we don’t get any of the fun games up here in MN. It’s slots, video poker, regular poker, and blackjack pretty much exclusively. I might have see some video roulette machines at Mystic but I haven’t been in a few years. We got horse racing though, which is always a guilty pleasure of mine. For $2 you get real invested in any one horse, and I’ve won a few long shot bets that put a few bucks in my pocket. It’d just be nice to go somewhere close for real roulette or craps, or a sportsbook or something. Only real story I have is going to Wisconsin for a friend’s wedding a few years back and getting hit by a roulette ball walking through the casino the day after. I don’t know what happened exactly but I felt the hit and saw the little white ball thud at my feet. I picked it up and gave it to the sheepish-looking dealer who was walking over and that was it. I didn’t say it was a good story.
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Techno Remix posted:Only real story I have is going to Wisconsin for a friend’s wedding a few years back and getting hit by a roulette ball walking through the casino the day after. I don’t know what happened exactly but I felt the hit and saw the little white ball thud at my feet. I picked it up and gave it to the sheepish-looking dealer who was walking over and that was it. I didn’t say it was a good story. should've stuck around i think that means you own the casino now
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Jan 7, 2020 19:05
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Techno Remix posted:I’m not a big gambler but these stories make me sad we don’t get any of the fun games up here in MN. It’s slots, video poker, regular poker, and blackjack pretty much exclusively. I might have see some video roulette machines at Mystic but I haven’t been in a few years. We got horse racing though, which is always a guilty pleasure of mine. For $2 you get real invested in any one horse, and I’ve won a few long shot bets that put a few bucks in my pocket. It’d just be nice to go somewhere close for real roulette or craps, or a sportsbook or something. Yeah our options are real limited up here. They have some weird style baccarat up at running aces but I think it’s some simplified version. I didn’t get a chance to gently caress around with craps or roulette when I was in Vegas for work. Just spent all my free time at the poker tables but I kinda wish I had just for some dumb fun lol.
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Jan 7, 2020 19:09
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I don’t get the appeal of baccarat, it’s basically just a coin flip but with cards to make it fancier, isn’t it?
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I've never gambled at a casino and unless I go to Vegas, probably never will. Hell, the one here in Madison doesn't even have table games, which is the one thing I might even want to try. At least they're smoke free now, which will be nice if I ever have to go chase down my gambling addicted stepdad ever again. Techno Remix posted:Only real story I have is going to Wisconsin for a friend’s wedding a few years back and getting hit by a roulette ball walking through the casino the day after. I don’t know what happened exactly but I felt the hit and saw the little white ball thud at my feet. I picked it up and gave it to the sheepish-looking dealer who was walking over and that was it. I didn’t say it was a good story. Potowatomi or Ho-Chunk? Infidel Castro fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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Tetramin posted:Yeah our options are real limited up here. They have some weird style baccarat up at running aces but I think it’s some simplified version. I didn’t get a chance to gently caress around with craps or roulette when I was in Vegas for work. Just spent all my free time at the poker tables but I kinda wish I had just for some dumb fun lol. For all my fun of betting on the horses I’ve never actually been up to Running Aces, it’s all been at Canterbury. Canterbury’s poker room is nice. The last time my buddies and I went there we got one of the low stakes tables with a bunch of fat old drunk guys and they were awesome. Then some guy in shades came in and started dropping huge bets every pot to bully people off. Killed the buzz. I did do a couple spins of roulette when I was in Vegas like a decade ago but after a couple spins the dealer swept someone’s winning bet off the table and they had to call a pit boss over so I got bored and wandered off. Much as I want to play craps I’m super intimidated by it and can’t seem to really get my head around it no matter how I try. Infidel Castro posted:
St. Croix Turtle Lake, if I remember right.
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last time I was at Potowatomi I was with my brother who never really gambled in a casino and wanted me to show him the ropes, so to speak we sit at a 4-card poker table and the dealer is trying to explain the rules but he's not really getting it. 3rd hand he looks down and is like..."hmm, I think this is good?" and the dealer picks up his hand and goes, "oh, Christ...". turns out he had four 10s which wound up paying him like $700-800. other people at the table (who apparently had not had quite as good luck) were visibly irritated as the dealer kept piling chips in front of him. sort of a reverse of that story, I was at ultimate hold 'em once a while ago and the cocktail waitress hadn't come around in a long time so I was like...screw it, I'm just gonna hop over to the bar quick. which of course means missing a hand. anyway I come back and see the lady next to me get quads, three sevens on the board + one in her hand. what sucks about this is that she got the hand that I would have gotten. since there were trips on the board everyone got paid too. I missed out on it just so I could grab a beer. felt much worse than just dropping $200+ straight up honestly.
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Techno Remix posted:For all my fun of betting on the horses I’ve never actually been up to Running Aces, it’s all been at Canterbury. Canterbury’s poker room is nice. The last time my buddies and I went there we got one of the low stakes tables with a bunch of fat old drunk guys and they were awesome. Then some guy in shades came in and started dropping huge bets every pot to bully people off. Killed the buzz. Yeah Canterbury is nice too. Honestly they are like exactly the same but aces has better food. I’ve tried to wrap my head around betting the horsies but that kind of gambling just makes no sense to me and I haven’t cared to learn lmao. It was fun to put $10 on a pretty much random horse and hoot and holler during the race to collect my $15 payout lol.
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The Dregs posted:This thread inspired me to go looking for more weird degenerate gambler stuff. r/gambling provides some gems. I did that to a slot machine once. Story: I was getting murdered on the tables, down to my last bet at blackjack. I get AA vs dealer 6 up card. I have to go to the ATM to get money out to split the aces, they won't table mark me because the floor man is an rear end in a top hat, get a 9 and a 7 for 20 and 18. Dealer's down card is a 7, she pulls an 8 to make 21. I got up, walked off and put my hand through the screen on a slot machine on my way out to valet. I was bleeding everywhere, the valet asked if he wanted me to call security so they could get me cleaned up, to which I politely declined. Got in my car and left, the next day I got a call from the casino that I needed to pay for the damage or I would be 86'ed from all their properties. I didn't pay for 3 years...It cost me an extra $8k on top of what I lost that night. Oh and I had to pick glass shards out of my hand for like 3 days. Good times. On the flip side, I'm still up a lot of money lifetime gaming.
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Heated gamer moment
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Jan 11, 2020 20:41
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when I was 14 or something there was a casino event in the online rpg Gemstone 3 and I bet a bunch of gold, I lost it so I bet the rest of my gold trying to get it back and lost that too, it was a really good life lesson
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Jan 11, 2020 20:56
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Flavahbeast posted:when I was 14 or something there was a casino event in the online rpg Gemstone 3 and I bet a bunch of gold, I lost it so I bet the rest of my gold trying to get it back and lost that too, it was a really good life lesson Shoulda chased your losses, OP. That’s the key degenerate strategy
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Jan 11, 2020 22:46
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Flavahbeast posted:when I was 14 or something there was a casino event in the online rpg Gemstone 3 and I bet a bunch of gold, I lost it so I bet the rest of my gold trying to get it back and lost that too, it was a really good life lesson I still get emails for that game. I went back a few years ago, it was a wasteland.
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Jan 12, 2020 00:27
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I saw a tiny Asian grandmother wearing an oversized confederate flag jacket in Pennsylvania
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Would you want to move to Las Vegas? A friend who grew up there reported not much to do and the schools weren’t great. Plus their dad had a severe gambling addiction, so also a negative. Lots of stuff to do, inexpensive but still lots of nice/new areas, who gives a poo poo about schools, and I'm not a gambling addict so it seems like a win-win, and I grew up in the south so I have no problem with heat and if it has no humidity, then great
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Flavahbeast posted:when I was 14 or something there was a casino event in the online rpg Gemstone 3 and I bet a bunch of gold, I lost it so I bet the rest of my gold trying to get it back and lost that too, it was a really good life lesson I'd gamble on the wheel on the barge to Theren in Dragonrealms, another old MUD, but I never had enough platinum for big losses.
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JaySB posted:On the flip side, I'm still up a lot of money lifetime gaming. I'm not aiming this at you specifically, but it seems that every person who gambles claims they are ahead overall. Even if they are down to their last dollar, there was a big win X years ago which apparently puts them ahead overall. Why do they think this? Are they aware that it probably isn't true, are they lying to themselves, or do they think they've got a running total of won/lost that updates with every bet?
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I know for a fact I am up lifetime because I keep spreadsheets of everything I gamble on for my taxes. There are a lot of people who claim to be up lifetime and very few are but they are out there. Jaysb is one of those who actually is up lifetime like me. I’m up lifetime because of my pool playing. It got me everything I have from my first company which I sold for a huge profit and now I own a second company. It all started with my gambling winnings. I’ll let Jay decide if he wants to talk about his lifetime winnings. People also only remember the good times when gambling and tend to block out the bad. Except for their lovely bad beat stories no one wants to hear. jase1 fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Jan 12, 2020 |
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Jan 12, 2020 15:08
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jase1 posted:I know for a fact I am up lifetime because I keep spreadsheets of everything I gamble on for my taxes. I suppose I should have excluded games of skill from that question! I was referring more to people gambling against a casino or at a bookies, which is why it isn't aimed at anyone in particular in this thread.
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Doug Sisk posted:I suppose I should have excluded games of skill from that question! I was referring more to people gambling against a casino or at a bookies, which is why it isn't aimed at anyone in particular in this thread. Hell, I would be surprised if even 50% of amateur players bother to track their profits and losses in anything but the most loosest of terms. But many those same people will have no trouble trying to convince you that they consistently are making 10 BB's an hour, or point you to their Herndon mob entry where they have recorded 1 or 2 cash's for a couple grand as evidence of their tournament prowess.
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Oswald Kesselpot posted:Poker is a skill game, and there are a ton of players that claim positive win rates in cash games (or ROI for tournaments) that are either blatantly lying about it, “forgetting” their losing days/months, or not calculating correctly. Pool is way more of a skill game than poker and not really comparable.
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jase1 posted:
Maybe this is true in your experience, but as an ex-casino dealer, in my experience people love to whinge at you about how much they are down today, how much they lost yesterday, and how much the Casino has taken from them over a lifetime. And it was the same for all the games I dealt, (Blackjack, Roulette and Baccarat). They then love to blame all this on you, personally. Even as you point at the exit, and tell them that they can, (and should), go home at any time.
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Earth Table posted:I'd also like to talk about slot theming. I'm not a big gambler, but I visited a casino with my wife on our anniversary for fun in Annapolis. They had two machines I tried just because they looked neat. The first was a machine based on the 60s Batman show, and I have no idea what the gently caress it was supposed to do. I put in a buck, some clips played, and that was it. Then there was an Iron Man 2 machine that looked sort of like a skee ball set up. You put in money, pushed buttons when they lit up, and things happened on a screen. I put in a buck, things lit up, and they played a clip from the film of the Vanko drones blowing things up, and I somehow won 80 bucks. The strange thing about this machine was that once it got started, it ran by itself for like 3-4 minutes while I just had to watch, and it just magically did the right things that kept it going and won me money.
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Honky Dong Country posted:I also once saw a guy win like $180k in 3-card poker. Security swooped in like hawks, all play stopped at that table, and dude couldn't leave until tax paperwork showed up right there at the table for him to fill out. A friend of mine hit the progressive jackpot at a Casino on Fremont Street in Vegas and received the same treatment. All play stopped for about 5 minutes while a bunch of dudes came out of nowhere and checked everything out and generally intimidated everybody. Only difference is, being Fremont Street, the jackpot was about $2800. I like casinos. I don't bet more I can afford to lose and if I ever get up more than about $100 I walk away. My only thing is I have to understand the game, or I can't enjoy it. Some of my friends are content to just throw money down and let the dealer take care of everything. You might as well play slots if you're going to do that.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Pool is way more of a skill game than poker and not really comparable.
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jase1 posted:Except for their lovely bad beat stories no one wants to hear. Oh my gently caress, yes. No one wants to hear bad beat stories unless someone somehow loses an eye or throws up blood all over someone. I immediately ignore any story that begins with "the flop came..." If you're going to tell a bad beat limit it to something like "I flopped the nuts, dude went runner runner and I got hosed." The end.
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I Brake For MILFs posted:"I flopped the nuts, dude went runner runner and I got hosed." The end. New thread title right here.
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Oswald Kesselpot posted:Of course they arent comparable, two completely different skill sets, but they are both still skills. Regardless, the point was poker actually involves skill to be profitable vs most table games that are almost completely luck based, and players still lie about win rates. Ok the person you replied to was responding about a comment regarding pool. I didn't realize it needed you to state, in the casino/gambling stories thread, that poker takes more skill than roulette, but thanks.
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I Brake For MILFs posted:Oh my gently caress, yes. No one wants to hear bad beat stories unless someone somehow loses an eye or throws up blood all over someone. Anytime I flop my nuts on the table everyone else gets really mad for some reason.
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I Brake For MILFs posted:If you're going to tell a bad beat limit it to something like "I flopped the nuts, dude went runner runner and I got hosed." The end. Is this a sex thing? It sounds like a sex thing.
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The Lone Badger posted:Is this a sex thing? It sounds like a sex thing. It might as well be. Getting sucked out on is a thing too.
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my story is that I learned how to be a professional poker player from a subforum on this here forum and have been doing it for 12 years and also the forum got shutdown because I guess we can't afford the $30 a month in bandwidth even though it had like several WSOP bracelet winners posting in it along with million dollar cash game winners giving advice for free to people and poo poo lol it's probably too late to bring it back now but I'm still mad it's gone
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Ok the person you replied to was responding about a comment regarding pool. I didn't realize it needed you to state, in the casino/gambling stories thread, that poker takes more skill than roulette, but thanks. Nah man, you got it all wrong ::anxiously puffs cigarette:: roulette is a skill-based game, you just gotta set up a system like I have ::hasn't slept in three days:: my ex wife is gonna feel like an idiot when I buy that Range Rover ::puts final $400 23 red, busts::
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I run overnight security at a tribal casino. The last 7 years of my life has been lost to graveyard shift tweakers and slot lizards (slotstitutes). I work twelve hour shifts though so I'm only on 4 days a week and that's pretty cool. Other than that it's just like...tweakers, drunks, prostitutes, silver miners, players club fraud, dine and dashes, drunks, fights, blood, piss, and poo poo in weird places, drug deals, tribal police, Holly jolly Christmas suicide site checks, and more tweakers. They pay me the princely salary of 35k a year to tell my staff made up of 18-24 year olds to stop loving the cocktail waitresses. Well I guess I do have 3 guards over 25.
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I've been working as a croupier for about three years now at a tribal casino in Michigan. A few months ago we had a woman named Jenny, who is the Midwest version of a high roller regular, come in to play baccarat. She was always dressed nicely and had a mild and sweet personality. Our main floor baccarat tables have a maximum limit of $5k per hand and she was betting the maximum at my table for a good chunk of the day. She bounced around between tables throughout the day, so I didn't see all of her action, but this was all normal and she was acting calm and seemed to be having fun. The shift began to change and the evening floor manager came over to log into the table. He started making small talk and asked Jenny how she's doing. She casually responded "I'm homeless. My husband left me because I bet all of the money. I live here now." The floor manager and I were a bit taken aback by both the statement and her light hearted tone. I asked around and found out that the night before she'd been in playing bacc and her husband had come in to try to drag her out of the building, which want uncommon. She had refused. He left, then came back a bit later and walked up to her (still playing) and silently set his wedding ring, which was broken in two, and a cell phone in front of her on a live game. Then he left. She spent the next five days at the casino. She had a reserved blackjack table in the high limit room and had us open high limit baccarat for her, which has a $10k max bet. The first couple of days she was wearing the same clothes she arrived in, after that she wore a sweatshirt and sweatpants from the casino gift shop. She ended her bender down about $600k. I have a friend in surveillance who said she deviated from her regular play style on blackjack in ways that made them wonder if she was trying to lose, and they were speculating about that before they even knew about the drama with her husband. We haven't seen her back since. I dealt to her on three of the days she was there. It was pretty wild to watch.
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Goodbye Dinah posted:I've been working as a croupier for about three years now at a tribal casino in Michigan. A few months ago we had a woman named Jenny, who is the Midwest version of a high roller regular, come in to play baccarat. She was always dressed nicely and had a mild and sweet personality. Our main floor baccarat tables have a maximum limit of $5k per hand and she was betting the maximum at my table for a good chunk of the day. She bounced around between tables throughout the day, so I didn't see all of her action, but this was all normal and she was acting calm and seemed to be having fun. The shift began to change and the evening floor manager came over to log into the table. He started making small talk and asked Jenny how she's doing. She casually responded "I'm homeless. My husband left me because I bet all of the money. I live here now." The floor manager and I were a bit taken aback by both the statement and her light hearted tone. I asked around and found out that the night before she'd been in playing bacc and her husband had come in to try to drag her out of the building, which want uncommon. She had refused. He left, then came back a bit later and walked up to her (still playing) and silently set his wedding ring, which was broken in two, and a cell phone in front of her on a live game. Then he left. She spent the next five days at the casino. She had a reserved blackjack table in the high limit room and had us open high limit baccarat for her, which has a $10k max bet. The first couple of days she was wearing the same clothes she arrived in, after that she wore a sweatshirt and sweatpants from the casino gift shop. She ended her bender down about $600k. I have a friend in surveillance who said she deviated from her regular play style on blackjack in ways that made them wonder if she was trying to lose, and they were speculating about that before they even knew about the drama with her husband. We haven't seen her back since. I dealt to her on three of the days she was there. It was pretty wild to watch. I know there's nothing you can really do as employees but it feels like on some level there should probably be an ethical obligation to stop someone like this before it goes that far down the rabbit hole.
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Yeesh, that lady most likely offed herself...Doug Sisk posted:Why do they think this? Are they aware that it probably isn't true, are they lying to themselves, or do they think they've got a running total of won/lost that updates with every bet? Probably because they never track their wins or losses. Or that they won big once and then never lost big, just small consistently over time. A lot of people will also just do mental gymnastics to justify whatever is they want to justify. Poker is a weird scene regarding profitability because inflating your perceived profitability can directly lead to people giving you money in -EV situations. (I.E. selling at higher markup for tournaments than one should and getting a bigger freeroll) I play so infrequently that it's pretty easy for me to track my wins/losses over the year.
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ArbitraryC posted:ethical obligation This thread is about casinos.
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ArbitraryC posted:I know there's nothing you can really do as employees but it feels like on some level there should probably be an ethical obligation to stop someone like this before it goes that far down the rabbit hole. As a dealer you're not even really supposed to talk/fraternize with players outside of the expected employee/patron relationship. It has to do with game protection. So, you're put into a position where you have a good idea that a patron is on a downward spiral and things will end badly, but what can you do? You can't pull someone off a table and offer then life advice. A dealer might tell their floor supervisor, but realistically what can the low level manager do? Give the player a pamphlet and tell them to get help? Say you give the player a pamphlet and they freak the gently caress out because you're suggesting they have a problem. Casinos are a hospitality business, it runs on customer service and you just pissed off someone who's betting table max. This reminds me of a player we had at our casino. He was left a pretty big inheritance by his parents at 30 years old and liked to show off his cash. He came in and bet table max, talked poo poo, got drunk and hosed up all the time. We knew this wasn't going to end well, because it isn't sustainable. He had been doing this for about a year and eventually his life got so out of control he hung himself in a public park. My casino is very small and we know everyone that plays, so we did try and talk to the guy and he did try to get help. For whatever reason, it didn't happen.
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Yeah I get that I'm absolutely not saying the employees have any obligation or even plausible methods of dealing with this I think it's sort of just a good example of an inherent flaw in the industry that basically any casual observer wouldn't be surprised if she spent all her money then ate a gun in the parking lot. There's no real tangible solution there its just visibly wrong and ethically irresponsible to still be taking that women's money and a clear indictment of how casinos are ran.
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