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mossyfisk posted:Honestly I'd just have Lews on-screen for when he's talking. It gives you more options for performance and lets you do the classic "cut to a bystander's perspective where he's shouting at nothing" trick. Head Six stuff
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I dunno there'd be no ambiguity whether Rand is mad or not if it's more then a voice.
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Mat Cauthon posted:H Jon Benjamin.
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Jan 10, 2020 13:35
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Martin Freeman for Lews Therin.
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Whether it's a disembodied voice or not, I think it can't be anyone Super Famous because I'll just hear Archer screaming or Red from Shawshank Redemption etc. 
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Jan 10, 2020 13:46
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Sab669 posted:
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DarkHorse posted:danger zone A bunch of nobles keeping up fragile smiles as Rand yells this at no one
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Imagine this scene, if you will 5 minutes of Rand talking to no-one, while marshalling his multi-nation forces for an assault on the entrenched army of a Forsaken *looks over at a mustachioed general* "I'm not mad yet" *general, sweating through his powder, nods nervously* Now, think about if any of the suggestions for how to depict Lews Therin improve on that.
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Lews Therin should be there as a cartoony dragon that only Rand can see.
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EvilTaytoMan posted:Lews Therin should be there as a cartoony dragon that only Rand can see. Happy! meets WoT I'm down
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It’s just the dragon from Mulan still voiced by Eddie Murphy.
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Invalid Validation posted:It’s just the dragon from Mulan still voiced by Eddie Murphy. I had the same thought.
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Is there a dragon in the new Mulan, I saw a trailer but wasn't sure there could/will be.
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I'd actually be happy if they don't immediately throw the EotW prologue into ep 1. EotW gets going pretty fast, with a lot of characters to meet immediately in Emond's Field. Having a prologue throwing two insanely important insane characters giving insanely important exposition would make the first episode too dense. I think it'd be better a couple eps in, at a slower point (maybe on the ferry?) when Moiraine or Thom are talking to the boys. Maybe have them give a bit of history about LTT and then Rand gets a flashback/ivision of LTT's last minutes before dragonmount.
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I wouldn't mind horribly if they made the prologue into one of his nightmares
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It would make sense as a nightmare with one of Thom's stories setting up some of the background so it doesn't feel too infodumpy Billy Zane should still be there though
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The Glumslinger posted:I wouldn't mind horribly if they made the prologue into one of his nightmares yeah, you could also not tell the entire story from the prologue and make it shorter and less explained by making it more of a nightmare then give a full version later on with the reveal that it's 100% real
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eke out posted:yeah, you could also not tell the entire story from the prologue and make it shorter and less explained by making it more of a nightmare Yeah. Repeated nightmares about killing himself to make Dragonmount without context, and then when Rand kinda realizes he is the Dragon late in S1 he recalls the madness and the dialogue Ishamael gives. Maybe connect Ishamael to Baalzamon then too. Lots of good ways to do this, better than exposition dumping in the prologue.
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Easy answer. Release the prologue separately on youtube and prime weeks/months before the show comes out to build buzz. There's probably a couple of other scenes you could do that way too. Then you can keep the show focus on the main cast without confusing casual watchers. Especially if they are going to squeeze in some of New Spring. I really want to see the prologue done well as its part of what makes WOT stand out for me. That, how the Aiel are handled, and Mat in general as a character are the most important, since the rest is relatively easy not to flub if they can make the magic and fighting look good on their budget.
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do we even know anything about the people making it? do they have anything worth a poo poo to their name? i think a lot of it will come down to whoever is in charge, and there's a lot of good ways to handle it as long as they're smart about it.
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I think you need to start with the Prologue because without that, being The Dragon Reborn would come across like this cool fantasy chosen one thing, the way it would be in any other story. The prologue sets things up so that you understand that Rand is the reincarnation of the end of the Beast that’s ends the world.
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Johnny Joestar posted:do we even know anything about the people making it? do they have anything worth a poo poo to their name? i think a lot of it will come down to whoever is in charge, and there's a lot of good ways to handle it as long as they're smart about it. the showrunner was on survivor!
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Brolander posted:the showrunner was on survivor! Did they win?
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:I think you need to start with the Prologue because without that, being The Dragon Reborn would come across like this cool fantasy chosen one thing, the way it would be in any other story. The prologue sets things up so that you understand that Rand is the reincarnation of the end of the Beast that’s ends the world. All the other stuff you talk about, the endless cycles and whatnot, would either be awkward expositioning during that scene or a lady galadriel-esque monologue dumping backstory go the audience immediately thereafter. And if you go the latter route you don't even need the prologue scene to play out, you could describe it roughly and then show it later. The prologue is weird in that it gets more important the further you get into the series, and it's at it's least important as an intro, except to intrigue the reader. And I think the reader is easier to work with than the show watcher as far as that goes.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:I think you need to start with the Prologue because without that, being The Dragon Reborn would come across like this cool fantasy chosen one thing, the way it would be in any other story. The prologue sets things up so that you understand that Rand is the reincarnation of the end of the Beast that’s ends the world. I mean, I think that works fine. You set up this fantasy story with pretty strong LOTR elements, Rand seems like the hero but uh oh looks like he's actually the reincarnation of the dude that pretty much hosed the world over by saving it. If we're getting 10 eps and the last one is the showdown at the Green Man's spot then do the prologue as a cold open to that episode. Really show how things got so messed up and hint at how outmatched the heroes are against the Shadow.
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Vavrek posted:Did they win? Third place after some poor decisions. He worked on My Own Worst Enemy (Christian Slater), Chuck season 3, Hemlock Grove and seasons 1 and 2 of Marvel's Agents of Shield.
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I just have a hard time believing wot can succeed as a show. I've long had a theory that doorstopper fantasy like wot became popular due to the rise of television; if you wanted something long and immersive, something that took a month rather than a few hours, you needed a book, not a TV show or movie. I feel like so much of the value of wot comes from things that will be hard to bring to the screen; the huge depth, the details, the internal monologues, etc. Things like Mat shifting his word choice when speaking in the Old Tongue without realizing it, etc. I am *probably * wrong. But my fear is that if you strip out the text and leave just the story, all you have is a fairly generic fantasy bildungsroman, Hercules or Xena with "trollocs". And if that's all there is, it won't be good. OTOH this would be a great time for "are we the baddies?: fantasy version" to get some traction. If they get that WoT is a post Vietnam narrative and develop it with that consciousness then it has a chance to be genuinely good.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I just have a hard time believing wot can succeed as a show.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I just have a hard time believing wot can succeed as a show. I think that's what Wizard's First Law turned into, although the show was better than the books at that point. I have read ideas from people on how you could do things like Mat changing languages that made sense to me, so people have thought about it and I think it's worth a shot at least. Maybe it'll fall apart but maybe not.
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The Witcher was just Xena with a big budget and a production team that clearly really cared about nailing the tone and while it wasn't revolutionary it was really fun and good. e: also, in re-reading it is insane how many paragraphs upon paragraphs are spent describing cloths, buildings, rooms, and furniture. It's loving nuts. In the show its going to just be...a dress. Or a table. Even if the costumes and props are 100% hand crafted recreations of their book descriptions spare no expense they're still just going to be a minor and unremarkable thing in the show. How are u fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Jan 10, 2020 |
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How are u posted:The Witcher was just Xena with a big budget and a production team that clearly really cared about nailing the tone and while it wasn't revolutionary it was really fun and good. Sounds like you don't have enough of an opinion on flowing lace!
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How are u posted:The Witcher was just Xena with a big budget and a production team that clearly really cared about nailing the tone and while it wasn't revolutionary it was really fun and good. Give me two episodes wholly devoted to Elaida’s figurines and the history of the Amyrlin triptych or give this show an early death.
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i assume they're possibly doing the 'release a full season at once' thing. at this point i just want to know a date. it'd be weird if it became another game of thrones.
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I think Amazon still does New Episodes Weekly, don't they? I know they did with The Grand Tour, anyways.
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I honestly think a weekly release schedule is better for making a big show. If you just dump a whole season at once then people watch it in two days and forget about it until the next season releases. You don't have people speculating on future episodes, and you can barely even discuss the show at all unless you've both already finished it.
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Sab669 posted:I think Amazon still does New Episodes Weekly, don't they? I know they did with The Grand Tour, anyways. Did they do it with The Expanse? I haven't gotten to the new season yet.
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Amazon does full seasons drops for their original content.
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They dumped the new season of The Expanse at once but The Grand Tour is apparently coming out one episode at a time so I don't think they have consistent model for releasing shows.
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How are u posted:The Witcher was just Xena with a big budget and a production team that clearly really cared about nailing the tone and while it wasn't revolutionary it was really fun and good. i always thought of these books as word paintings and so he's forced to describe it all
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