Political Cartoons 2020: 2020 Trump Campaign Prepare to Die

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thatbastardken: Apr 23, 2010; A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

Katt posted:

Currently the US has about 400 missile silos and even if they had 15 missiles per silo I doubt they would be getting off too many volleys before the enemy missiles start landing. I can only assume that Russia has a lot fewer silos with even shittier missiles.

I think they would send as many as they possibly could against actual nuclear missiles silo. As well as defense planning related facilities like NORAD. Obviously New York and Washington DC. But after that and the US counter missiles that would undoubtedly hit the Russian missile silos and government facilities. I think the nuking would be over. They wouldn't gradually sweep the entire US with missiles because they would need to get as many hits as they could possibly get on key targets.

yeah ok there are some pretty terrible assumptions here but I'm just going to link the Cold War/Airpower thread so you can do a little light reading on the topic of Armageddon in your own time

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3910801

# ? Jan 21, 2020 21:42

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Crunch Buttsteak: Feb 26, 2007; You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?

Technowolf posted:

I know we had the discussion last thread about the whole "Mad Max future" genre of political cartoons, but even when they don't go "lol Trump will be our mutant dictator forever", I've grown really tired of this whole "the future is cartoonishly bleak" thing.

I mean, it's not like the future isn't bleak, but cartoonists like this have been putting out "Today, it's [bad thing Trump did], in 5 years it will be [exaggerated version of bad thing Trump did], in 10 years it will be [picture of bones with nukes going off in the background]" every week since Trump got elected. Enough lefty cartoonists do this exact format that it has all started to blur together for me. It really comes across as lazy by this point.

# ? Jan 21, 2020 22:39

Trapezium Dave: Oct 22, 2012

Rowe:

David:

Matt David's caricature of Scott Morrison has evolved a few times.

Broelman:

Leak, Son of Leak:

Zanetti:

# ? Jan 21, 2020 23:31

Kobal2: Apr 29, 2019

Katt posted:

Currently the US has about 400 missile silos and even if they had 15 missiles per silo I doubt they would be getting off too many volleys before the enemy missiles start landing. I can only assume that Russia has a lot fewer silos with even shittier missiles.

That's just one part of the triad. Even assuming all the bombers get knocked out before taking off (which I think some are on perpetual circular flight ?) there's still a lot of boom lurking in deep, dark waters - and those won't bother targeting empty silos. That also goes for Russia natch.

Jagged Jim posted:

Oh dear God he gave Xi the Pooh slanty-eyes.

I like that he put Putin on the blue/bad side. 'Cause Trump plays against him you see.

# ? Jan 21, 2020 23:45

InsertPotPun: Apr 16, 2018; Pissy Bitch stan

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

I know we had the discussion last thread about the whole "Mad Max future" genre of political cartoons, but even when they don't go "lol Trump will be our mutant dictator forever", I've grown really tired of this whole "the future is cartoonishly bleak" thing.

I mean, it's not like the future isn't bleak, but cartoonists like this have been putting out "Today, it's [bad thing Trump did], in 5 years it will be [exaggerated version of bad thing Trump did], in 10 years it will be [picture of bones with nukes going off in the background]" every week since Trump got elected. Enough lefty cartoonists do this exact format that it has all started to blur together for me. It really comes across as lazy by this point.

I thought of this the other day and I can't name the last movie i've seen with a hopeful future.

# ? Jan 21, 2020 23:48

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Trapezium Dave posted:

Zanetti:

Every square inch of earth where enormous and catastrophic wildfires laid waste is not permanently barren and salted, therefore climate change is a hoax.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 00:02

Sandpuppy: Jun 16, 2012; Social Abscess
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Pants Donkey posted:

LOL at anime BoJo and lantern-jawed Ted Cruz. Weird that he didn't put McConnell out there as a gold piece, considering all he's doing to thwart the trial.

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Greetings from 1989!

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America and Football,, Apple ~~pie~~ and corn!

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The coronavirus defeated communism!

# ? Jan 22, 2020 00:02

VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

Kaza42 posted:

There are a lot of extremely vulnerable gold pieces in that game, while silver is holding much more secure areas of the board. Only the military-ish top middle section is strongly held by gold. And what few gold pieces are in position in contested areas (rather than hopelessly overextended in silver areas) tend to be pawns threatening nobody.

Tbf it's tough to evaluate the positions when there are obviously unfamiliar movement rules that allow gold to move to midair and blow other pieces off the board

# ? Jan 22, 2020 00:11

Amoeba102: Jan 22, 2010

Jeak turning on the government for their complete fuckupery, but Zanetti is still turning as far as he can away from how poo poo the government is. Better focus on the Greens you hack.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 00:13

Space Cadet Omoly: Jan 15, 2014; ~Groovy~

Trapezium Dave posted:

Zanetti:

Oh gently caress this.

"Yes there were devastating wild fires that caused spectacular amounts of damage and were directly brought about by global warming induced by pollution, but have you considered this: plants grow back :smug:

checkmate, I'll see you next year when there are even more forest fires to tell you this same thing again."

# ? Jan 22, 2020 00:28

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Sandpuppy posted:

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I America and Football,, Apple ~~pie~~ and corn!

the most Payne cartoon possible, it's got cars, bumper stickers, a complete lack of awareness for how anyone in america actually behaves because he's never left his house.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 00:30

Jonas Albrecht: Jun 7, 2012

Sandpuppy posted:

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Jfc Horsey, even if you mean this to be pro Sawant it just looks racist as gently caress.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 00:31

Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

Sandpuppy posted:

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The coronavirus defeated communism!

Sure just ignore the guys who were arrested for plotting violence before the rally, and also the fact that marching through the streets brandishing guns is an implicitly violent act meant to inspire terror

Also lol "diverse"

# ? Jan 22, 2020 00:52

Feinne: Oct 9, 2007; When you fall, get right back up again.

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Oh gently caress this.

"Yes there were devastating wild fires that caused spectacular amounts of damage and were directly brought about by global warming induced by pollution, but have you considered this: plants grow back checkmate, I'll see you next year when there are even more forest fires to tell you this same thing again."

And I'm sure a whole bunch of new animals are just going to sproing from the ground after them, it's not like there's a well-known Australian animal whose population has reproductive issues that really doesn't need a bunch of them incinerated and a huge swath of their habitat destroyed right now.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 01:04

Raised By Birds: May 5, 2013

Sandpuppy posted:

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I guess there haven't been any high profile celebrity deaths lately, so Saint Peter's had to take on some extra work.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 01:23

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Well of course the avatar of history is an old white guy. What other kind of person could it have been?

# ? Jan 22, 2020 01:25

Cloud Potato: Jan 9, 2011; "I'm... happy!"

Guardian:

"Nicola Jennings on plans to move the House of Lords north � Peers have openly scoffed at the idea of the House of Lords moving out of Westminster to York or another northern city, after the government confirmed it was looking at relocating the upper chamber"

Telegraph:

HS2 costs could rise to �106bn or more, warns government review

Matt:

Independent:

Prince Harry arrives in Canada to join Meghan and Archie

Times:

BBC faces 'dangerous moment' after Tony Hall's departure

Evening Standard:

Davos 2020: Greta demands climate action but Trump blasts pessimists - as it happened

Mail:
PAUL THOMAS on... Harry and Meghan's future

# ? Jan 22, 2020 01:35

Pants Donkey: Nov 13, 2011

Beeler with this :black101:

cartoon

# ? Jan 22, 2020 01:52

I dont know: Aug 9, 2003; That Guy here...

Jonas Albrecht posted:

even if you mean this to be pro Sawant

Given his previous cartoons featuring her, I can pretty much guarantee it isn't.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 01:56

Apple Pie Hubbub: Feb 14, 2012; Take that, you greedy jerk!

# ? Jan 22, 2020 02:14

F_Shit_Fitzgerald: Feb 2, 2017

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

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The chuds are so mad about that pen thing. I haven't seen such impotent fury since 'OK, Boomer'.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 02:22

Jagged Jim: Sep 26, 2013; I... I can only look though the window...

Sandpuppy posted:

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I America and Football,, Apple ~~pie~~ and corn!

https://twitter.com/letsgomathias/status/1217243463932153857?s=20

The ~~Vikings~~ ~~Packers~~ Chiefs are totally gonna murderlate the San Fransisco CommuPelosis!

# ? Jan 22, 2020 02:35

Grimdude: Sep 25, 2006; It was a shame how he carried on

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

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Is this the first time someone has amended the "do nothing" to include "well, except this one really big thing we don't like"?

# ? Jan 22, 2020 02:41

Cat Mattress: Jul 14, 2012; by Cyrano4747

Pants Donkey posted:

And this...is to chess...even further beyond!

Ah yes the chessmaster move of...having a Senate so shamelessly biased that they�ll cover your rear end for your hilariously incompetent crimes.

Of course Greta Thunberg is right next to Soros.

Also I'm the royal crown on the Eagle representing the USA. I though it was a Republic, Garrison, what happened to that? You'd rather have a monarchy, now? Huh.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 02:52

thatbastardken: Apr 23, 2010; A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

Cloud Potato posted:

Mail:
PAUL THOMAS on... Harry and Meghan's future

ok but is this supposed to be bad somehow? they clearly have a house and land and a business? i'd rather be surrounded by bears than paparazzi.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 02:55

bandaid.friend: Apr 25, 2017; My first car was a stick

Trapezium Dave posted:

Zanetti:

Some areas were burned so badly they aren't seeing new growth as there's nothing left alive. Areas where the trees have burned are more likely to burn again as there'll be more grass and bushes. Vast numbers of animals and insects have died, so ecosystems are vulnerable to collapse. There's toxic material washing into the rivers, triggering mass fish deaths and polluting water sources. The fire season is not over

Pants Donkey posted:

And this...is to chess...even further beyond!

Ah yes the chessmaster move of...having a Senate so shamelessly biased that they�ll cover your rear end for your hilariously incompetent crimes.

Is that supposed to be Boris Johnson in the top left?

# ? Jan 22, 2020 03:00

Kaza42: Oct 3, 2013; Blood and Souls and all that

bandaid.friend posted:

Is that supposed to be Boris Johnson in the top left?

Yeah, you can just make out "Boris" on the base

# ? Jan 22, 2020 03:11

Lareine: Jul 22, 2007; KIIIRRRYYYUUUUU CHAAAANNNNNN

Kaza42 posted:

Yeah, you can just make out "Boris" on the base

Not that you need it. I mean, it looks just like him!

# ? Jan 22, 2020 03:38

rodbeard: Jul 21, 2005

Nuke chat reminded me that after the Soviet Union fell and we got access to a lot of their sealed records it turned out the Soviet Union had a more accurate map of the town I was born in, North Tonawanda NY, than we did. Both sides had enough nukes to start going after small unimportant towns after it got all the big targets just to sow more chaos. It's not like there was anything strategic in Hiroshima.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 03:56

Apple Pie Hubbub: Feb 14, 2012; Take that, you greedy jerk!

# ? Jan 22, 2020 07:05

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

rodbeard posted:

It's not like there was anything strategic in Hiroshima.

The army headquarters in charge of defending southern Kyushu (where the initial Allied invasion of Japan would've taken place if the bombs weren't dropped) was headquartered in Hiroshima along with two other major command staffs. It was also an important port and transport hub.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 07:47

Mordaedil: Oct 25, 2007; Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?; Grimey Drawer

Katt posted:

There's a website where you can simulate dropping a nuke. And I used it to drop the biggest nuke ever made on New York and I was kind of disappointed with the results. It only killed like 5 million people and most of the city turned out alright.

Made nukes seem kind of impotent and I think we scaremongered too hard during the cold war.

Like New York and Washington are probably hosed in WW3 but the mid sized cities are probably just going to see some fireworks in the distance and then continue as normal. Just not have people travel too close to the radioactive ruins for a few years.

Homework assignment; look up what a MIRV is and repeat the process on nukemaps. Realize that all the nukes involved are some variation of that.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 07:49

itskage: Aug 26, 2003

rodbeard posted:

Nuke chat reminded me that after the Soviet Union fell and we got access to a lot of their sealed records it turned out the Soviet Union had a more accurate map of the town I was born in, North Tonawanda NY, than we did. Both sides had enough nukes to start going after small unimportant towns after it got all the big targets just to sow more chaos. It's not like there was anything strategic in Hiroshima.

This is what I wanted to post. There was also a declassified map in here somewhere that showed the targets Russia would strike in a retaliatory attack for mutual assured destruction. There was a 500 nuke scenario and a 2000 nuke scenario. IIRC the 500 was all that was needed to obliterate our cities and infrastructure. The 2000 nuke scenario had them blowing up our silo sites in an attempt to minimize the number of nukes we'd be able to retaliate with.

Pretty interesting to see and pretty bleak.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/56tsgc/nuclear_targets_in_2000_and_500_nuke_scenarios/

itskage fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Jan 22, 2020

# ? Jan 22, 2020 08:53

axolotl farmer: May 17, 2007; Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Pants Donkey posted:

And this...is to chess...even further beyond!

Garrison still has hopes for Qanon (top middle) :laffo:

# ? Jan 22, 2020 08:59

Trapezium Dave: Oct 22, 2012

Rall: Here's Why Democrats Did Their Lame Pro Forma Impeachment of Trump

Ted Rall posted:

Impeachment requires bipartisan consensus built up over a painstaking process to be effective. Why did Democrats rush through a pro forma piece of crap at the beginning of an election year?

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# ? Jan 22, 2020 08:59

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Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

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# ? Jan 22, 2020 09:31

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

Shut the gently caress up, Thumb Relish.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 09:46

fatherboxx: Mar 25, 2013

Katt posted:

There's a website where you can simulate dropping a nuke. And I used it to drop the biggest nuke ever made on New York and I was kind of disappointed with the results. It only killed like 5 million people and most of the city turned out alright.

Made nukes seem kind of impotent and I think we scaremongered too hard during the cold war.

Like New York and Washington are probably hosed in WW3 but the mid sized cities are probably just going to see some fireworks in the distance and then continue as normal. Just not have people travel too close to the radioactive ruins for a few years.

You really need to watch Threads dude

# ? Jan 22, 2020 10:14