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*Sir Christopher Lee dons his leather cape and prepares himself to pretend to fight a tiny green goblin represented by a tennis ball on a stick; he picks up his script for the first time and his eyes are drawn to the name Count Dooku* “I’ve been duped!!”
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2house2fly posted:I didn't enjoy the prequels but it is kind of weird to see the bad faith criticism they get. Like a whole page of posts in this thread alone about how it's bad that the clones in the Clone Wars fought for the Republic. That's something that made you hate these movies?! Are you kidding me? i guess i can see how you'd get the impression, its like the korean war and stuff the part that really confuses me is that anyone thinks stormtroopers are cooler than clones. the guys that are infamous for having bad aim and lose to ewoks are cooler than the guys who gently caress up everyone and win every fight wtf
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Mooey Cow posted:Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing loved hamming it up in goofy movies. It was really only Alec Guinness who thought it was a bit beneath him, so if you're gonna feel sorry for anyone I guess it's him. Imagine being such a stick in the mud. Cushing and Lee had the right idea imo Edit: the droids are the best though^ clones are tryhards while droids build fun spider tanks and matrix-esque insectoid octopus monsters with 50s looking laser beam weapons And their fighter planes walk around. Imagine a f14 jet walking on its wingtips and swiveling it’s cockpit around would be metal as hell. That’s a vulture droid. Wild Horses fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jan 24, 2020 |
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Wild Horses posted:Imagine being such a stick in the mud. 
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Guy A. Person posted:I mean I'm pretty confidant that Christopher Lee knew exactly what he was signing up for when he was asked to play a space dracula and sword fight a muppet. It's really only Star Wars fans that think any part of it has ever been high art, Alec Guinness had been trying to talk children out of being SW fanatics since the late 70s for all the good it did. I doubt Lee was like "if only I had been asked to be in the good childrens space movies I think he was happy to get paid a shitton of money right on the tail of getting paid a shitton of LOTR money. Doesn't mean his character's name wasn't unusually stupid, even by Star Wars standards. cuntman.net posted:i guess i can see how you'd get the impression, its like the korean war and stuff I can't speak for everyone here, but I don't think the stormtroopers are cooler than anything. They absolutely suck. The problem is that the clone troopers, at least in the movies, somehow managed to tie with the stormtroopers in terms of lameness. That shouldn't have have been possible. Mooey Cow posted:They did at least three Dracula movies together; Dracula (aka Horror of Dracula), Dracula AD 1972, and Satanic Rites of Dracula. I had no idea! How fun, I'll have to check the other two out. The one I'm a fan of is "The Horror of Dracula."
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Majorian posted:I think he was happy to get paid a shitton of money right on the tail of getting paid a shitton of LOTR money. Doesn't mean his character's name wasn't unusually stupid, even by Star Wars standards. I'm sure people were joking but I was mostly pushing back on the idea that the stupid character name was insulting to him and not just part of the silly fun that he signed up for
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My least favorite thing about the prequels is how interconnected it made the character's. loving Anakin Skywalker made C3PO and he was a witness at Anakins wedding? Why are we seeing Boba Fett as a little kid? He was a minor nothing character in the OT. Yoda a Chewie? Totally met back in the day and they were friends!
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Jan 24, 2020 17:43
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Guy A. Person posted:I'm sure people were joking but I was mostly pushing back on the idea that the stupid character name was insulting to him and not just part of the silly fun that he signed up for I might have been joking a bit myself; I did call it "elder abuse" after all.  Agronox posted:I wouldn't complain, he was Baron Shitballs in an earlier draft of the script. Please don't doxx my baptismal name.
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Jan 24, 2020 17:44
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Boba Fett is a minor nothing character in the prequels too
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sponges posted:My least favorite thing about the prequels is how interconnected it made the character's. loving Anakin Skywalker made C3PO and he was a witness at Anakins wedding? Why are we seeing Boba Fett as a little kid? He was a minor nothing character in the OT. Yoda a Chewie? Totally met back in the day and they were friends! It’s fine you do t like it Here are two explanations I can think of 1. It’s better in movies to have a smaller number of characters so as to not confuse the audiences. So instead of a whole new droid that Anakin built why not make it c3po who is already established etc 2. Recurring and linked characters is part of the genres from which Star Wars is derived - especially the old sci fi series like Flash Gordon etc
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Jan 24, 2020 17:48
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Because it's weird how neither of the droids go "Skywalker? heyyyyy wait a minute..."
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Jan 24, 2020 17:51
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CainFortea posted:Because it's weird how neither of the droids go "Skywalker? heyyyyy wait a minute..." There is a throwaway line in RotS at the end that they're going to wipe 3P0's memory.
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Jan 24, 2020 17:56
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I've never though Star Wars was art, it's always been a pop fantasy franchise with timeless pop fantasy themes. A lot of "theme noticers" seem to think it's laundering very valuable and complex concepts to the peasants with its extremely sophisticated film making though, which is funny.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:00
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Acebuckeye13 posted:There is a throwaway line in RotS at the end that they're going to wipe 3P0's memory. It was implied in ANH that droid memory wipes were a regular thing anyways. Still dumb though.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:02
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Then they aren't the same droids. They may have the same parts, but that's not 3po and r2
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Jan 24, 2020 18:03
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R2D2 remembers everything just fine, and he may well say "wait, Skywalker?" in beep language. On the other hand, what's he gonna say? What's in it for him?
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Jan 24, 2020 18:06
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sponges posted:My least favorite thing about the prequels is how interconnected it made the character's. loving Anakin Skywalker made C3PO and he was a witness at Anakins wedding? Why are we seeing Boba Fett as a little kid? He was a minor nothing character in the OT. Yoda a Chewie? Totally met back in the day and they were friends! The Boba Fett thing was that he wanted to throw the fans a bone and show that their favorite character was totally important, after they hated so much on Jar-Jar. Which I think was unnecessary and it would have been cool to see Jar-Jar grow as a character, but we can all imagine the outrage if he had made another Jar-Jar movie back then. Plus Jango is way cooler than Boba Fett anyway.
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sponges posted:My least favorite thing about the prequels is how interconnected it made the character's. loving Anakin Skywalker made C3PO and he was a witness at Anakins wedding? Why are we seeing Boba Fett as a little kid? He was a minor nothing character in the OT. Yoda a Chewie? Totally met back in the day and they were friends! I like the prequels but you're right, that was really stupid. In conclusion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOmyuweolqY&t=1610s
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Jan 24, 2020 18:23
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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sponges posted:My least favorite thing about the prequels is how interconnected it made the character's. loving Anakin Skywalker made C3PO and he was a witness at Anakins wedding? Why are we seeing Boba Fett as a little kid? He was a minor nothing character in the OT. Yoda a Chewie? Totally met back in the day and they were friends! It's cool how in ANH Han Solo is "I've never seen the Force, it's some bullshit imo" and then Chewie is immediately like, hey man I'm 200 years old and I've told you multiple times about how I literally hung out with the top Jedi general in the clone wars and saw Jedis use the force like crazy all the time but for some reason you won't believe me, why won't you believe me Han you're my best friend
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Finally a good thread for good movies on this boring forum! Y'all warm my heart, much love
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Anyway I've carefully considered the arguments presented by both sides and have come to this impartial conclusion; The prequels are trash
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Jan 24, 2020 18:30
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euphronius posted:It’s fine you do t like it C3PO doesn't add anything to the prequels though. Just leave him out of them, instead of giving him a really stupid origin. e: or if you need to have him, just have him, I dunno, show up - exactly as R2 does. "Hi, I'm C3PO! I'm a protocol droid who's been assigned to you. Nice to meet you!"
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It's not the force abilities that Han doesn't believe in, it's the God stuff.
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Majorian posted:C3PO doesn't add anything to the prequels though. Just leave him out of them, instead of giving him a really stupid origin. Anakin making a droid is fine. Why not be c3po? It doesn’t detract imho You are probably right . Who knows
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CainFortea posted:Then they aren't the same droids. They may have the same parts, but that's not 3po and r2 Ah the Droid of Thesus enigma euphronius posted:Anakin making a droid is fine. Why not be c3po? It doesn’t detract imho He is right, it's dumb as poo poo. It is funny to imagine Vader and Boba sitting in that dining room on bespin killing time until Han and Leia come in, and he's like "Hey, did you see that gold protocol droid they had with them" and Boba's like "yeah" and Vader's like "I built that droid like 40 years ago when I was 10" and Boba's like "bullshit" and Vader says "No poo poo, I really did, isn't that crazy how small the galaxy is sometimes"
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It's hugely hosed up that it's so easy to create artificial life in Star Wars Land that child slaves can do it on a whim and their masters just don't give a poo poo Like three blocks down the street Watto's friend Hatto's slave is making his fifth robot slave of the day I bet. The second robot slave made four of his own so he's also living the easy life.
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CainFortea posted:Yea everyone, slave armies are good. The whole point of the prequels was that luke and thus the audiences view of the pre imperial wonderland of the Republic was bollocks. The empire didn't overthrow the Republic, the empire is the Republic under new management. And the Republic itself was pretty lovely and so were the jedi. I think that's interesting even if the movies were crap to actually watch. Certainly more so than anything in the ST which are also crap to watch. It's does piss off a lot of fans though, since they're wedded to the story obi tells luke instead of the reality in the prequels. So a lot of people see these subversions as mistakes or plot holes instead. That's why you get people going "they should make a film set in the past! There's millenia of jedi v sith to use!" imagining if you go back far enough the jedi are these cool noble superheroes again.
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euphronius posted:It’s not that hard to create biological life. Idiots do it every day.
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euphronius posted:It’s not that hard to create biological life. Let's see you do it then 
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Communist Thoughts posted:The whole point of the prequels was that luke and thus the audiences view of the pre imperial wonderland of the Republic was bollocks. The whole point of the prequels was George Lucas trying to prove he could make an epic space opera entirely on sound stages using CGI.
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When you think about, erasing a droid's memories is kind of like killing them, so the last line in Revenge of the Sith is basically "BTW, kill 3PO".
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Communist Thoughts posted:The whole point of the prequels was that luke and thus the audiences view of the pre imperial wonderland of the Republic was bollocks. The empire didn't overthrow the Republic, the empire is the Republic under new management. It is an interesting concept, but that's part of what makes the prequels so frustrating: they represent a huge missed opportunity to tell a much better story. "Anakin Skywalker turning from the best of the Jedi into one of the worst Sith Lords" is a great loving hook. I'd have loved to have seen a trilogy that handled that arc effectively. I'd also have loved to have seen a trilogy that handled the corruption of the Republic and its mutation into the Empire believably. But the prequels didn't manage to do either of these things effectively.
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zoux posted:The whole point of the prequels was George Lucas trying to prove he could make an epic space opera entirely on sound stages using CGI. Then why did he use real locations and props ????
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euphronius posted:Then why did he use real locations and props ???? Not a nice thing to say about Hayden bro
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Majorian posted:It is an interesting concept, but that's part of what makes the prequels so frustrating: they represent a huge missed opportunity to tell a much better story. "Anakin Skywalker turning from the best of the Jedi into one of the worst Sith Lords" is a great loving hook. I'd have loved to have seen a trilogy that handled that arc effectively. I'd also have loved to have seen a trilogy that handled the corruption of the Republic and its mutation into the Empire believably. But the prequels didn't manage to do either of these things effectively. I wonder what all the dead youngling force ghosts think about force ghost anakin
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RBA Starblade posted:I wonder what all the dead youngling force ghosts think about force ghost anakin "Oh well, I'm glad it turned out good for you in the end. All's well that ends well, right? You loving piece of poo poo..."
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