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Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpNP9b3aIfY

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rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

Chillbro Baggins posted:

If anything, digital is easier because the trained apes like me can crop our photos to your requested shape. Or at least tell you what shape it's gonna be. Back in the day, you'd have to take a knife to the photo print yourself, right? I've nver done pasteup personally, but worked in a shop that did (I'm a photographer, I've never even seen the print shop, and the copy desk always complained that my photos didn't fit their layout.( Edit: in those cases, I told them to go gently caress themselves, this is ART, who cares about the text, you can make it fit with the fancy computer programs.)

But given that you know of pasteup and are in Texas, we may have met at some point.

Yeah, if it was the newspaper's photos you just guillotined it to fit the space. Someone else's photo, you taped off what you didn't want halftoned and made sure you got the photo back.

Digital, please for the love of god just give me raw and let me develop it. I can do a better process color conversion for uncoated newsprint and crop than you can. (Or, y'know, scan your blurry photo to 1mp and embed it in a DOC file - not DOCX, that's too easy - like every other clueless secretary.)

But I honestly couldn't care less if the photo fit my layout, when 5 pm hits and the printer is bitching for PDFs, your photo is going to fit, one way or another. Most people don't notice a <20% vertical stretch :ssh:

nurrwick
Jul 5, 2007

Buttcoin purse posted:

The "I had one of those on my Windows box" post above made me realize: what is actually "Macintosh" about the modem? In the era when Macs looked like that, they had RS-232, just with a different connector, so it only needs a special cable and obviously Macintosh software, but the modem itself can just be the same as a PC one can't it?

Oh boy, I can contribute! Unless someone beat me to the punch:

The “for Macintosh” serial crap had built-in mini-DIN cabling. I think Apple used a proprietary standard, but all quick googling got me was “GeoPort” and 230kbps as a speed. The key compatibility spec for Macs was apparently hardware handshaking, whatever that was meant to communicate to a user. I want to say that they had a ninth pin in the socket that enabled something special if the serial device supported it, and that might have been the handshaking, but I haven’t had to care about that vintage a set of Mac ports since we moved from our Performa 6118 to the Sawtooth G4 I got in 2000 for college.

Apple was big on proprietary ports that did normal stuff; the other ‘cool, I need an adapter’ was AAUI-15 for Ethernet, not that anyone was hooking a machine with that up to Not AppleTalk. That and the super proprietary AV port that Apple only ever sold one display for, meaning the machines that had it required a really inflexible adapter to go to any regular Apple monitor you might have bought or gotten as a package deal.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit


30 year old OS on a 27inch LCD. Just found that a bit amusing. I have an LC M0350 that I got working.
Came from an university so it's all maxed out with a 80 MB drive, and 10 Megabtyes of ram.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I demand to know the contents of
00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



bring back old gbs posted:

I demand to know the contents of
00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000


It’s cut off and actually 900000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 and it’s your mother’s weight.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


bring back old gbs posted:

I demand to know the contents of
00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Is there any doubt? Porn.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Arsenic Lupin posted:

Is there any doubt? Porn.

Of what? Cowdog loving the watch icon?

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Is there any doubt? Porn.

Not much you can do with 80MB but I am sure people have tried.

There was some random resumes and graphics design stuff. I had three LC M0350s, an LC II and a III.
Two of them the lithium battery went KABLOEY and corroded a bunch. Three of them had non-functioning PSUs, but luckily, all this poo poo from these models are Mix-N-Match, so got two working M0350s right now, except the HDD on one won't read, I'll have to switch it out.

These came from universities, so they are maxed out on ram, 10 MB, 80 MB HDD upgrade, and two of em had a RasterOps video card on the PDS port.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Johnny Aztec posted:

Not much you can do with 80MB but I am sure people have tried.
In my youth, people really did pass around ascii porn. And then again, you can go old-school and just use text. Life finds a way, baby.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

TotalLossBrain posted:

gently caress. This garbage was everywhere and it was so drat useless and irritating.

more irritating than someone stabbing a finger directly into the screen everytime they want to point something out to you?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
What? No one ever had monochrome .pict porn?

I remember being on a PC if you got one of those image files it rendered it all stretched out and we were still grateful to have it.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Krispy Wafer posted:

What? No one ever had monochrome .pict porn?

I remember being on a PC if you got one of those image files it rendered it all stretched out and we were still grateful to have it.

I’m still chasing the high of watching porn become less and less pixilated, your boner becoming harder and harder as you first make out a fuzzy nipple.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

SniperWoreConverse posted:

more irritating than someone stabbing a finger directly into the screen everytime they want to point something out to you?

That still happens though

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Arsenic Lupin posted:

In my youth, people really did pass around ascii porn. And then again, you can go old-school and just use text. Life finds a way, baby.

I've tried to explain to younger folks that back in the bbs days we just traded (badly) written sex novels and ASCII tiddies. Sometimes you hit gold and got some extremely low res gifs of an almost naked lady. I treasured those pictures for years. Those really were the days, huh!

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


big crush on Chad OMG posted:

I’m still chasing the high of watching porn become less and less pixilated, your boner becoming harder and harder as you first make out a fuzzy nipple.

Scrambled porn still excites me in ways today's youth will never know.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

barbecue at the folks posted:

I've tried to explain to younger folks that back in the bbs days we just traded (badly) written sex novels and ASCII tiddies. Sometimes you hit gold and got some extremely low res gifs of an almost naked lady. I treasured those pictures for years. Those really were the days, huh!

HB2A.GIF

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

bring back old gbs posted:

I demand to know the contents of
00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

You know, the consensus is porn, but I'm gonna take the long shot and say it's actually capital Os and it's full of either ghosts or blue jays and raccoons.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?
If it was ghosts it would be ooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Jerry Cotton posted:

I still don't know if the racing toy is Scalectrix or Scalextric or something else
:yossame:

:psyduck: I've got some reading to do on Wikipedia to work out what the heck that is!

quote:

The key compatibility spec for Macs was apparently hardware handshaking, whatever that was meant to communicate to a user.
Maybe all Macs supported RTS/CTS handshaking so Mac modems could have that turned on by default for a better user experience, whereas PCs required you to figure all this poo poo out yourself and figure out the AT commands?

quote:

Apple was big on proprietary ports that did normal stuff; the other ‘cool, I need an adapter’ was AAUI-15 for Ethernet, not that anyone was hooking a machine with that up to Not AppleTalk.
My Quadras can run Netscape Navigator or Internet Explorer so they were and are occasionally still attached to a network running IP as well as AppleTalk. Well at least the Quadra that doesn't play the theme from the Twilight Zone when I try to turn it on :cry:

nurrwick
Jul 5, 2007

Buttcoin purse posted:

Maybe all Macs supported RTS/CTS handshaking so Mac modems could have that turned on by default for a better user experience, whereas PCs required you to figure all this poo poo out yourself and figure out the AT commands?
I’d say “who knows at this point?” but the answer is almost certainly on a way-more-recently-updated-than-is-prudent page on someone’s mid-90s Mac resource site.

quote:

Well at least the Quadra that doesn't play the theme from the Twilight Zone when I try to turn it on :cry:
I never had a machine give me the chimes of death from failure of regular use, but I do remember getting a kick out of manually triggering the PowerPC 601 machines’ car crash sound.

Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


The various Apple error chimes gave me the creeps in a major way, and this is when I was in college! Ugh. Somehow Windows doesn't strike the same fear into my heart with its Oops, something went wrong :-(

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Armacham posted:

If it was ghosts it would be ooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Peter those are Cheerios.

AMISH FRIED PIES
Mar 6, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
they're donut seeds!

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

barbecue at the folks posted:

I've tried to explain to younger folks that back in the bbs days we just traded (badly) written sex novels and ASCII tiddies. Sometimes you hit gold and got some extremely low res gifs of an almost naked lady. I treasured those pictures for years. Those really were the days, huh!

I had to look up the exact quote from this 2002 interview with Tristan A. Farnon, because it's so perfectly put:

"If someone is legitimately interested in the contents of an image called 'blowjob.gif,' I promise you they'll sit there and wait while it slowly unfurls like a flag down their screen."

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

https://twitter.com/profanegeometry/status/1222266520685834241?s=19

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

But that's basically just how delay lines work. I had to design and build some for testing radars but we used coiled fiber optics instead of copper to get multiple miles of delay, same idea just a lot lighter.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Plinkey posted:

But that's basically just how delay lines work. I had to design and build some for testing radars but we used coiled fiber optics instead of copper to get multiple miles of delay, same idea just a lot lighter.

Some of the earliest delay lines used liquid mercury, which I think is metal as gently caress.

(yes. I did that on purpose.)

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Some of the earliest delay lines used liquid mercury, which I think is metal as gently caress.

(yes. I did that on purpose.)

I think I have them put up, but I have a few Mercury switches that I scavenged.

Pretty neat old school safety switch.

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

Plinkey posted:

but we used coiled fiber optics [...] same idea just a lot lighter.

:golfclap:

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Johnny Aztec posted:

I think I have them put up, but I have a few Mercury switches that I scavenged.

Pretty neat old school safety switch.

When I was growing up, we had a few special lightswitches in the house that glided rather than snapped. Those were mercury switches, too.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Mercury and lead have such nice properties.

It’s a shame they’re poison.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Platystemon posted:

Mercury and lead have such nice properties.

It’s a shame they’re poison.

Same with asbestos.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


I remember, and I think a lot of people my age do, playing with the droplets of mercury from a broken thermometer or barometer. It's just so nifty. Of course, my 2 1/4 kids can't walk upright, but it's the price you pay for fun.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Cojawfee posted:

Same with asbestos.

There’s probably alien species laughing at us for our vulnerability to heavy metals and ionising radiation.

Hopefully we’ll get to dunk on aliens that can’t deal with iron.

Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


I haven't given up our sole remaining mercury thermometer yet.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Hirayuki posted:

The various Apple error chimes gave me the creeps in a major way, and this is when I was in college! Ugh. Somehow Windows doesn't strike the same fear into my heart with its Oops, something went wrong :-(

This might be apocryphal or I may just be wrong but I believe the default Mac error chime back in the day was called Sosumi (sp?). Phonetically, "So sue me" because in the early days Apple took it's name from Apple records the record company that the Beatles founded. When they haggled back and forth about using the name part of the agreement was Apple Computers could use the name but not do anything music and possibly, audio related. There was some wonder if a branded error sound would count. They took a chance guessing that it didn't and used that name for the chime. Of course, this all might not be 100% correct but I believe that that agreement stands to this day and Apple plays no part in the music business.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


The Ape of Naples posted:

Of course, this all might not be 100% correct but I believe that that agreement stands to this day and Apple plays no part in the music business.
Nope. Apple had to renegotiate when they got started with iPods.

empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

The Ape of Naples posted:

Apple plays no part in the music business.

Not sure if this is a joke, but it’s one reason why the Beatles weren’t on the iTunes Store for so long.

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
No one cared what the Beatles named their holding company.

What trolls.

It’s like if Google started suing people with “Alphabet” names.

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