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Krispy Wafer posted:ISDN was sold as 128kb in the US. I know that because I was the poor fool who had to support it well into Bush’s first term for people who couldn’t get DSL. Right, yes. You got ... two 64-kbit data channels and an always-on low-bandwidth control channel? It was fairly widespread in Norway, too; we upgraded because it meant we could be on the internet without tying up the house phone. (Being able to sneakily use both for double bandwidth at double cost now and then was a bonus.) Actual bandwidth over here really was 64kbit, at least; I have started at a lot of steady 8kB/s downloads...
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Computer viking posted:Right, yes. You got ... two 64-kbit data channels and an always-on low-bandwidth control channel? It was fairly widespread in Norway, too; we upgraded because it meant we could be on the internet without tying up the house phone. (Being able to sneakily use both for double bandwidth at double cost now and then was a bonus.) Me and my boss had to upgrade to ISDN to card-share our payTV piracy endevours back in the day. Was almost as expensive and just paying for the proper subscription.
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I had forgotten to come back and post thisZereth posted:I haven't heard of this, please tell me more Here’s a good breakdown I found. Essentially, there’s a coil of bare wire inside a calculator and a traveling wave is sent down it eletro-mechanically, and then read after it bounces back. Never seen one in person though so maybe someone else can fill in gaps. The aforementioned breakdown: vintage calculator website on Delay Line Memory
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Humphreys posted:Me and my boss had to upgrade to ISDN to card-share our payTV piracy endevours back in the day. Was almost as expensive and just paying for the proper subscription. Sometimes it's the principle of the thing. 
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Explosionface posted:I don't know if the early ones has a specific color name, but I remember the later "beige" ones were called "Platinum" taqueso posted:Maybe It's 'natural' colored and costs less than adding black dye. Early computers were all white/beige, because of German office regulations requiring office equipment to have a neutral color. Apparently it was easier to just apply it world wide than just Germany 
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Pastry of the Year posted:Sometimes it's the principle of the thing. Rad! Also rad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKnwhokvgxE
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Iron Crowned posted:Early computers were all white/beige, because of German office regulations requiring office equipment to have a neutral color. Wow, Germany. Discriminating on the basis of skin colour. Not a good look!
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I remember having my mind blown the first time I saw non-green PCB's. https://www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2017/07/23/why-are-printed-circuit-boards-are-usually-green-in-colour/
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LifeSunDeath posted:I remember having my mind blown the first time I saw non-green PCB's. I remember my first red PCB video card, and black motherboard. It was so cool since it wasn't green.
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My first keychain I ever bought with intention to use was a chunk of black circuitboard I bought at Babbage's for $1. Had to have a black one since it wasn't bright green like all the other dumb ones. I still use it to this day, 20+ years later.
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Iron Crowned posted:Early computers were all white/beige, because of German office regulations requiring office equipment to have a neutral color. VWestlife made a video about it. Germany even had beige ThinkPads for a while. They gave in and allowed black ThinkPads in Germany, as long as they were labeled "Not for office use". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1skbgEGEn80
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Johnny Aztec posted:Performa 631CD I have only ever seen ONE Performa 631CD: mine! I rescued it from the "Black Hole" pile at Incredible Universe and it became the first Mac I owned. 
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That cat may be dead, but its fur will live on forever inside that computer case.
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Dick Trauma posted:I have only ever seen ONE Performa 631CD: mine! I rescued it from the "Black Hole" pile at Incredible Universe and it became the first Mac I owned. I worked at the one in Tempe. Our uniforms were purple and teal shirts and khaki pants. One time someone stole all my work shirts out of the apartment laundry machine. Who steals purple and teal shirts?
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Phanatic posted:I worked at the one in Tempe. Our uniforms were purple and teal shirts and khaki pants. Someone stole my roommate's uniform with the name of the company blatantly emblazoned on the front out of the apartment laundry machine, so 
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We have an employee who occasionally shows up in an embroidered Best Buy polo. We are not Best Buy.
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rockinricky posted:VWestlife made a video about it. Germany even had beige ThinkPads for a while. They gave in and allowed black ThinkPads in Germany, as long as they were labeled "Not for office use". oh god those towers in the video thumbnail look so good someone make a modern ATX case like that please
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Iron Crowned posted:Someone stole my roommate's uniform with the name of the company blatantly emblazoned on the front out of the apartment laundry machine, so Sounds like someone’s planning a heist.
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Everybody remember the joys of computer building back in the day...slicing open your hands on the super sharp case edges? Ugh, oh and these bastards:  Took a class that taught me how to use them then they became obsolete around same time and I never needed to know how to use them.
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LifeSunDeath posted:Everybody remember the joys of computer building back in the day...slicing open your hands on the super sharp case edges? Ugh, oh and these bastards: I still work with jumpers on a near daily basis on industrial PLCs, RTUs, and general SCADA equipment.
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Same. Building automation. Then again, industrial and commercial automation is the land of "Nothing is ever obsolete if we can band-aid it back to working again"
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MRC48B posted:Same. Building automation. We will consider buying your tech once it has a proven 30 year track record. Just last week I spent hours trying to debug the lovely RS-232 hardware handshaking on an Emerson flow meter
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I swallowed a few jumpers in class...it was highschool...I made mistakes.
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LifeSunDeath posted:Everybody remember the joys of computer building back in the day...slicing open your hands on the super sharp case edges? Ugh, oh and these bastards: the only thing I miss about building old computers are how the late 90s Athlons were housed in cute lil cartridges that just popped right in 
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Pentium II did this as well.
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Plinkey posted:We use it pretty much every day at work because there are a lot of remote employees Yea, for buisness use it makes total sense, but I was talking about home use. If you need to call your buddy up to let him know there's board game night at Kevins and if he can come, you gonna text him or make a video call? I still have a bunch of shirts from when i worked at Games Workshop and HMV. Some are actually really nice, like the HMV fleece, but most are just kept for sentimental value. EDIT: I remember in the late 90s my computer started just locking up randomly and i couldn't figure it out. It turned out the cart the processes was in had actually come loose. twistedmentat has a new favorite as of 03:16 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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Peanut Butler posted:the only thing I miss about building old computers are how the late 90s Athlons were housed in cute lil cartridges that just popped right in Oh I miss those...what even is cooling? lol.
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TotalLossBrain posted:Pentium II did this as well. Some of the early Pentium IIIs did as well. Like the one I put in a for a friend then didn't put thermal paste on when I mounted the heat sink. Luckily I caught it before the drat thing burned itself out.
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Good ol' Slot A, and let's not forget its Intel equivalent, Slot 1. I once put together a computer for a coworker, and the motherboard had both a Slot 1 and a Socket 370.
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I remember having a Slot A motherboard with with a Duron 700 plugged into an adapter card. Also remember drawing over a couple traces with a pencil on the Duron to enable overclocking, it got up to 900mhz!
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Dick Trauma posted:I have only ever seen ONE Performa 631CD: mine!
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Code Jockey posted:oh god those towers in the video thumbnail look so good Unless IBM made some PCs in that form factor, they were IBM PS/2s, so they weren't even PC compatible. I'm not sure if PS/2 motherboards were AT form factor? Probably not, they came up with new standards for everything else in PS/2. Admittedly it's not as if PC/AT was perfect. LifeSunDeath posted:Oh I miss those...what even is cooling? lol. My Pentium II slot-type CPUs have a fan on the side of the plastic cartridge thing. Did AMD CPUs run so cool back then that they could go without a fan? It certainly wasn't the case by the time of Athlons! SCheeseman posted:I remember having a Slot A motherboard with with a Duron 700 plugged into an adapter card. Also remember drawing over a couple traces with a pencil on the Duron to enable overclocking, it got up to 900mhz! Don't just say "adapter card" when you can say "slocket"! Or was it "slotket", which is what the Wikipedia page is called? I'm sure I remember people saying "slocket". I never had one so I never figured out the lingo I suppose.
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Krispy Wafer posted:ISDN was sold as 128kb in the US. I know that because I was the poor fool who had to support it well into Bush’s first term for people who couldn’t get DSL. The common ISDN phone line (also known as a BRI) was two 64Kbps B channels and a D channel which was used for control. The 2 B channels could be bonded for 128Kbps in most cases. The 8Kbps of overhead was only a thing if any part of the route between you and your ISP you used robbed bit signalling. Which some ISPs would do because they would have their ISDN lines delivered as CAS T1 so they could get all 24 channels usable instead of 23. I had a BRI ISDN back in the very late 90's and I was able to get 64Kbps per channel.
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Nocheez posted:Most of the old stuff didn't require anything more than a big heatsink on top. AMD led the charge for ridiculous cooling, those bastards ran extremely hot around the 1ghz days. Cyrix lead the charge on that.
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SCheeseman posted:Also remember drawing over a couple traces with a pencil on the Duron to enable overclocking, it got up to 900mhz! I've seen a Duron 600 overclocked to 1100mHz, stable enough you couldn't tell if the random bluescreens was because of that or because of general Windows 98 flakiness. The owner gave it to me to replace my P3-450 setup, but not until he installed an actual 1100mHz cpu. Had one of these on it, a Thermaltake Golden Orb:  which we thought was a massive cooler, up until giant heatpiped coolers became a thing. rndmnmbr has a new favorite as of 06:25 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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Thomamelas posted:Cyrix lead the charge on that. Yeah but no one bought those.
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TotalLossBrain posted:Just last week I spent hours trying to debug the lovely RS-232 hardware handshaking on an Emerson flow meter Username/post combo.
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Nocheez posted:Yeah but no one bought those. Our school computer lab had one Pentium 200 MMX and a dozen Cyrix 6x86 333mHz machines. I heard the owner tell the lab teacher "These are just as good at half the price!"  Naturally, when we fired up Quake, I took the good computer.
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Nocheez posted:Yeah but no one bought those. I knew a guy who got his hands on a dumpster dived sample and used it. It ran rather hot.
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